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Title: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 08:24:55 pm
Banned from NA1 do not know reason was not given a warning was just playing normally and then kicked and banned do not know by who.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 08:44:51 pm
I play on european when my funds are low and use a trident but i don't run in a straight line and die i fight to the best of my ability with my trident and 150 ping didn't realize that was against rules.  I thought leeching was when you spawned in with no weapon and intentionally died.  I always fight to my best ability with my equipped items.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 08:45:11 pm
nice try talazar, we wrote it a thousand times in the chat that we were taking screenshots and that we would get you banned. this only proves that you didnt even watch your screen while suicide running. an admin even warned you and i wrote 'enjoy your ban' during the first 20 seconds of a round (while you were running towards the enemy). you didnt even see that?
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 08:46:25 pm
I always fight to my best ability with my equipped items.
you stab someone and than just get killed by a thousand enemies, do you want to see the screenshots i took? i have screens from atleast 10 rounds
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 08:48:36 pm
can you post a video of me running in a straight line and dying please because i always fight to the best of my ability
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 08:49:48 pm
i have screens, that is enough. i also have a whole server to witness. and yes you fought, but fighting at your best ability doesnt mean going into a fight with 20 enemies and stabbing them once with a pitchfork
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 08:55:53 pm
Come play on NA with peasant gear and see how well you do.  I was playing to my best ability with my gear I had on equipped I did not realize that was against the rules I always try to follow the rules.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: defodijabox on January 18, 2013, 08:57:21 pm
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No leeching
OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die

He had a weapon, wasn't autorunning, and wasn't afk... just wasn't getting kills?
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 09:02:25 pm
Can I get an admin to read this please and answer if I did anything wrong?  Yes I admit I was playing on European with a trident and khergit armor because I was low on funds I went to european because I did not want to be embarassed on north america by doing so horribly which i knew i would in my money making gear.  I was playing to my fullest ability with the gear I had on and so I guess that's my question is it against rules to play with peasant gear?
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Lorden on January 18, 2013, 09:16:38 pm
It's not, EU seem to be butthurt.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on January 18, 2013, 09:21:12 pm
Doing poorly is not a reason for a ban.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 09:24:59 pm
guys, he wasnt doing poorly i have screens. check his thread. he was autorunning. you can see that when somebody is running in a straight line, getting stuck from time to time behind some rock or a tree, adjusting a bit and running a straight line again. this WAS leeching. screens incoming.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Miwiw on January 18, 2013, 09:27:01 pm
He had a weapon, wasn't autorunning, and wasn't afk... just wasn't getting kills?

He did this, for many hours:

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NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 09:30:07 pm
okay let the screens come then and quicker rather than later
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 09:42:45 pm
how long does it take to post screenshots?
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 09:55:30 pm
i started taking screens here, he already was warned by the admin but the admin had left the server.
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on another map: green line is distance between him and his closest teammate (at the moment he dies)
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round 2:
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round 3:
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round 4:
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i joined spectator from here:

awesome score btw, contributing like a boss
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round 5:
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round 6
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map change, round 1
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round 2: 4 seconds between the two pics, you must have done your best there. even i can kill tincans with a rondell dagger, why cant u use a fucking trident?
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again, such a great score
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and here, i joined again and said 'enjoy your ban' with 0 reaction from your side. you ran into a invisible wall, close to my spawn and i killed you with my 0 powerstrike shotgunner build.
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also from your running speed, everyone can tell you are not low level. you can easily do this.

okay let the screens come then and quicker rather than later
well i hope your ban gets longer with those screens, you dont have anything to command to me. you are just some filthy leecher scum.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 09:56:15 pm
how long does it take to post screenshots?
well a while, i have enough screenshots to upload. if i was online all day i could have had screenshots from 12 hours long
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 10:02:26 pm
and once again I don't see anything in those screenshots that shows me running in a straight line to an enemy and dying and they even show me fighting
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 10:04:53 pm
yes you were fighting, but as you can see in most screens, those fights took less than 2 seconds. there is a screen where you run into an enemy (pretty far) 4 seconds later you are dead on the ground. can't say that is fighting. everyone can run 20 seconds, fight 2 seconds, die and go read a book. the problem is that it is BANABLE.

plus the fact that you ran into an invisible wall in the enemy spawn and dont react when i hit you 10 times, it says enough. i have enough people that can testify that this was leeching.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Miwiw on January 18, 2013, 10:06:23 pm
Dont try to argue with him, no rules. It makes no sense at all. He's banned now and will not be unbanned so its fine. Admins arent stupid.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 10:07:48 pm
indeed, good advice miwiw ^^ case closed i guess
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 10:10:24 pm
okay well waiting for admin to look over and give me verdict I'm only fighting this because I am not guilty of breaking any rules a 2 ban is not a big deal anyways.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Auphilia on January 18, 2013, 10:11:09 pm
I love how his clan is trying to defend him against proven leeching.

When you have that many people all posting screens of you leeching, you might as well cut the act and take responsibility.
You just make everyone even less sympathetic when you blatantly try to lie your way out.

And your honest to god reason for leeching in EU is because you don't want anyone in NA see you do poorly?
What kind of reasoning is that? You are mainly
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a Horse Archer or Horse Xbow, since when did you care about what people in NA think about you or your K/D lol.

Seems to me like you knew you were leeching, and figured if you did so in EU you wouldn't be banned in NA.
Well, you got caught. See you in another day or so.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 10:25:40 pm
I'm not acting I was honestly trying and playing the best I could with a trident and 150 ping either way it looks like i'm facing a 2 day ban believe what you wish but I know the truth.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 10:28:08 pm
ok
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: bellini5691 on January 18, 2013, 10:49:51 pm
Seems to me like you knew you were leeching, and figured if you did so in EU you wouldn't be banned in NA.
Well, you got caught. See you in another day or so.


Hence the reason i'm banned,  instead of using facts you assume what you want because you dislike me because I am a horse
archer.

The facts I wasn't running in a straight line and I was participating in the battle.
Fact I am banned for 2 days.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 10:59:27 pm
The facts I wasn't running in a straight line and I was participating in the battle.
i can tell that you WERE running in a straight line, i was running behind you and i can tell that you are not paying attention on your screen when you are getting stuck behind a fence and after 2 seconds react to adjust your course a bit. Your 'participation' doesnt cound if you run into the enemy, running ahead of your team to fight for 2 seconds and than die. i know what it is to play with peasant gear, and i can tell you that you can actually wound people with it. for some reason you think that peasant gear explains a score of 0, 0 kills and multiple deads. i have a character with low armor, 1 powerstrike and a rondell dagger. i can kill tincans with it.
btw, look at the screens, most of them ARE in a straight line.

Fact I am banned for 2 days.
not enough, plus you are obviously lying atm. could add some more days
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on January 18, 2013, 11:04:43 pm
Please ban all accounts currently under level 10 and any other players seen in peasant gear. In addition anyone registering a new account with crpg should be auto banned for leeching.  :rolleyes:

The screens provided show Talazar not running in straight lines, actively blocking/attacking, and having a positive score.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 18, 2013, 11:08:26 pm
Honestly glad EU takes the game a little more seriously than NA.

I see so many obvious leechers in NA but they never get a warning because they're moving around (even though they have a stick in their hand for 6 months of playing)
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 11:13:30 pm
Please ban all accounts currently under level 10 and any other players seen in peasant gear
In addition anyone registering a new account with crpg should be auto banned for leeching.  :rolleyes:
check mah sig, will ya?
The screens provided show Talazar not running in straight lines, actively blocking/attacking, and having a positive score.
the screens show obvious suicide running, blocking a hit or adjusting your traject so you reach the enemy quicker (to die quicker) is part of suicide running. most people do it even less obvious, this man was so stupid that he didnt even care to hide his leeching, he just wanted to die asap. 0 score on 3 deaths with a pitchfork is extremely unbelievable for someone that is doing his best. i can get better on lvl 1
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: defodijabox on January 18, 2013, 11:15:31 pm
i know what it is to play with peasant gear, and i can tell you that you can actually wound people with it. for some reason you think that peasant gear explains a score of 0, 0 kills and multiple deads. i have a character with low armor, 1 powerstrike and a rondell dagger. i can kill tincans with it.

I have an alt too, and I'm a peasant on it. I use a pitchfork just like talazar was. It has no kills also because it's a peasant.

Screens can't show if he's running in a straight line or not either.

0 score on 3 deaths with a pitchfork is extremely unbelievable for someone that is doing his best. i can get better on lvl 1

It's on EU with high ping for him, not low ping on NA.

Honestly glad EU takes the game a little more seriously than NA.

I see so many obvious leechers in NA but they never get a warning because they're moving around (even though they have a stick in their hand for 6 months of playing)

So it's a crime to run around with a stick?
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 11:19:33 pm
why are we discussing if his score is normal or not?

suicide running is suicide running, i have seen him getting stuck, changing traject and running in the enemy to stab, block ones and than just to die. there is no way somebody can say this is not suicide running, because it is
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Auphilia on January 18, 2013, 11:22:09 pm
More of this lol.

Talazar is an experienced player, probably the most skilled in his clan.
Talazar is not a peasant. I just saw him in game with a masterwork yumi and masterwork barbed arrows.
That is 18 strength at least.

Funny how he uses a pitchfork instead of his actual class (archer). With 6 powerdraw (enough to use that MASTERWORK Yumi)
You can get plenty of kills. In fact, most players don't even go above 6 powerdraw, so you hit just as hard as any dedicated archer, if not harder since you have masterwork items. Instead you go to EU to leech and try to have your clan mates defend you as if you were a peasant.
Shameless lying and shameless lack of responsibility.

You can't be that poor with all of your looms. What generation are you again? 20 something?  :rolleyes:


Also, how can you afford to bring brynja + (mw?)1h sword + mw yumi + mw barbed arrows on a server with no multipliers (as there aren't enough people) but you will swear that you were just trying to peasant mode for money? If you were concerned of money that much, you wouldn't be using all of your gear in a server with no multiplier would you?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 11:23:05 pm
So it's a crime to run around with a stick?
no, but suicide runners use low armor because they just want to make money while doing nothing (it doesnt matter anyway, they dont play so why should they get good armor)
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: KaleLord on January 18, 2013, 11:27:21 pm
We know you dislike Malta Archdemon. Just stay out of it.
I'm not defending talazar and admin can warn me/mute me but STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD
Only admins and direct witnesses should be in here

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Do not post here if you don't have something directly case-related to say. No lobbying, general discussion whether a rule is fair, how admin is nub, etc. Take those things elsewhere, keep this area clear.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Auphilia on January 18, 2013, 11:31:29 pm
I really don't dislike Malta lol, just the kids who insult me or try to troll me every time I join a server with them.

I like Talazar and he has never broken any rules in NA_Community as far as I know. This is the first I've heard of him doing anything wrong.

And if you guys can defend him with bullocks excuses such as him being a peasant, and I, as a witness can testify that he is not a peasant, then I have as much right to input as any of you.

Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: MrShine on January 18, 2013, 11:34:24 pm
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Talazar Paul 20.01.2013 18:18:00 leeching

Paul's the one who banned you, and he's the one who can decide if you should be unbanned early or not.  If not, there's your unban date & time.

Let's keep this thread clean folks; if you weren't there you don't have anything to contribute, and should not be posting here. 
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 11:35:00 pm
Only admins and direct witnesses should be in here
well me, miwiw and talazar are the only ones that can stay in that case
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Muki on January 18, 2013, 11:35:26 pm
Only admins and direct witnesses should be in here

Don't need random comments to read through so thanks for warning them.

You are Globally Ban Ill be moving this to the global ban section 

The Dev who banned you it seems is paul so it's up to him
Paul
http://forum.meleegaming.com/profile/?u=9 (http://forum.meleegaming.com/profile/?u=9)

Your banned in till  20.01.2013 18:18:00 Server Time


Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: KaleLord on January 18, 2013, 11:38:49 pm
I really don't dislike Malta lol, just the kids who insult me or try to troll me every time I join a server with them.

I like Talazar and he has never broken any rules in NA_Community as far as I know. This is the first I've heard of him doing anything wrong.

And if you guys can defend him with bullocks excuses such as him being a peasant, and I, as a witness can testify that he is not a peasant, then I have as much right to input as any of you.

I would like proof of these "insults" if you have any i can apologize, however it REALLY looks like you despise malta. Yesterday or day before we were playing in community you were calling us "baddies" as well however as i have no proof feel free to not believe me.

Clannies protecting each other is a very common thing and I daresay every clan has done so.

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Do not post here if you don't have something directly case-related to say. No lobbying, general discussion whether a rule is fair, how admin is nub, etc. Take those things elsewhere, keep this area clear.

As i said we shouldn't be posting in this thread as we weren't directly involved.If you wish to discuss more on this subject, we can always take it to PM.

EDIT: Sorry did not see the new posts.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 18, 2013, 11:43:09 pm
I find it fantastic that someone with the name "no_rules_just_play" is being an insufferable ass over minor details of how other people play a video game. Incoming mute/warning is welcomed. It will be worth it.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 18, 2013, 11:47:04 pm
I find it fantastic that someone with the name "no_rules_just_play" is being an insufferable ass over minor details of how other people play a video game. Incoming mute/warning is welcomed. It will be worth it.
oh god...
soooo original
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Muki on January 18, 2013, 11:49:59 pm
Please attempt to stay on topic please :)

flame wars can be taken in the spam section
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Blackzilla on January 19, 2013, 12:36:38 am
Haven't read want anyone posted except for the reason why he was banned.

I've seen Talazar on NA run straight in with that same outfit and die in the first 30 seconds. He seemed to be doing it constantly and I never saw him once fight for real.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Elmuri on January 19, 2013, 12:56:58 am
I'm not acting I was honestly trying and playing the best I could with a trident and 150 ping either way it looks like i'm facing a 2 day ban believe what you wish but I know the truth.
I guess you arent very smart then if your best tactic is to run alone to face the whole enemy team. :?

Your lies just make you look idiotic
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on January 25, 2013, 06:03:07 pm
So I read through this, and I know I wasn't there, but I can't help but feel the need to voice my words, and I'll just hope it contributes in some way or another.

Firstly, all biases aside, auto-run is pretty common and I'm pretty sure it's not against the rules, I often put it on at the beginning of a round in the direction I need to go so I can do other things for a few seconds. (phone, eat, etc.) Then take it off once I reach the action. Secondly, he IS bringing a weapon, AND he attacked, AND blocked as you've all made clear. No matter how terribly he plays, or how shitty he does, this already nulls it from being leeching. (I mean we can't start banning people for being bad and rushing to their deaths, we'd ban every new player in this mod) It's just a playstyle, maybe one detrimental to your team, but who's to say what playstyles are legal and illegal? I don't recall there being a rule that says you must always play to the absolute best of your ability and never rush in recklessly. But hey, maybe I missed that one. Some people like to charge head in, and often pay the price with death, they just aren't very good. That's just fine. Some people like to sit back and wait the round out and come out once it's near over, that's fine too. See that just as often. And keep in mind, he's playing with 150 ping, using a shit weapon (a weapon nonetheless though!) and if I recall correctly from the few times I've fought him in melee, he's not the greatest in ground combat, although I could be thinking of someone else. Basically, no matter how irritating it was, what he was doing, is NOT considered leeching if you are going specifically by the rules and definitions, which we should be if we're considering a ban. I don't even really know the guy, but the fact that he was banned 2 days for that playstyle is slightly repulsive. Especially because that's generally the playstyle of every new player to C-RPG.

TLDR; He may have been annoying and useless, but he wasn't breaking rules. Why ban?

EDIT: Dat grammar
EDIT: Yes I know his ban is already up, just don't think this should happen in the future....bans without breaking any rules. Whut
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: a_bear_irl on January 25, 2013, 06:37:47 pm
real talk if you care about people autorunning you're awful, leeching bans are awful, who gives a shit if someone isn't tryharding nonstop
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 25, 2013, 08:37:37 pm
what is the definition of leeching? ok he wasnt alt-tabbing while running in the enemy. He just sprinted forward, far away from his team and ran inside the biggest group of enemies that crossed his path. he did a swing in thin air, blocked once and than opened the block to die.
He was abusing our fighting to get free multi while he could do something else. no doubt.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on January 26, 2013, 12:33:08 am
what is the definition of leeching? ok he wasnt alt-tabbing while running in the enemy. He just sprinted forward, far away from his team and ran inside the biggest group of enemies that crossed his path. he did a swing in thin air, blocked once and than opened the block to die.
He was abusing our fighting to get free multi while he could do something else. no doubt.

I'm not debating that he was useless to you, and probably a hindrance to the team, but unfortunately that isn't reason for a ban. Like I said before, if it was, every new player would be banned right away. And even some veterans. Well that right there is proof, he played bad, but he wasn't leeching. There's no rule saying you have to stay near your team, or fight well, or even try your hardest not to die. If you feel like being reckless, you can. And he was, his choice really. Well, if you had a multi just be happy he wasn't such a weight on your shoulders that you couldn't get a multi because of him!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 26, 2013, 01:39:23 am
he wasnt just useles, he was INTENTIONALLY useless.
i think that might count as a good definition of leeching, isnt it?

he wasn't leeching. There's no rule saying...

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"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

its not because you swing once in the general direction of the enemy that you are not leeching.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on January 26, 2013, 12:59:21 pm
he wasnt just useles, he was INTENTIONALLY useless.
i think that might count as a good definition of leeching, isnt it?

its not because you swing once in the general direction of the enemy that you are not leeching.

Unfortunately you're not in a position to really define that as only he could know such a thing, who's to say he wasn't just being aggressive and reckless? I play that way sometimes. Often actually.
No it's because he is engaging in melee and bringing a weapon that he's not leeching.
Title: Re: Talazar Unban Request
Post by: Muki on January 26, 2013, 01:10:51 pm
The Ban has long been expired can we stop posting here :)