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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Torben on January 14, 2013, 02:04:07 am
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it can couch, but so can my cock. just saying.
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NERF 2H.
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BUFF CAV
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Why don't we just buff all classes so much that they are all equally over powered, and even eachother out?
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that would be nice.
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it can couch, but so can my cock. just saying.
hx is a very annoying class, no doubt. But are you really comparing an xbow to a lance? The rider with a xbow can use a wider angle, thats true but do you have to wait 10 seconds between each stab of your lance? This comparison kinda fails imo, although you usually deliver good criticism to this game
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The heavy lance runs out of ammo after 20 thrusts? How do you reload it?
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The heavy lance runs out of ammo after 20 thrusts? How do you reload it?
"X" button.
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na, not comparing. i just stabbed an archer twice yesterday without him dying, then a hxbow mate chasing me took my remaining substantial amount of hp with one shot although i am wearing 60+ armor and was riding away from him.
just made me wonder, my horses is made of glass, my lance needs for ever to stab two times in a row.
edit: not a good night yesteday, meh :'D
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na, not comparing. i just stabbed an archer twice yesterday without him dying, then a hxbow mate chasing me took my remaining substantial amount of hp with one shot although i am wearing 60+ armor and was riding away from him.
just made me wonder, my horses is made of glass, my lance needs for ever to stab two times in a row. meh :'D
Must have been quite a lucky shot, usually 1 shot of a hx takes away 50% of my health and I'm 99% sure I've got less health than you and I wear around 45 body armor. To be honest, I am pretty happy that the fast horses are vulnerable to ranged fire, I usually need 2 good hits to bring one down (courser, arabian, rouncey, palfrey... maybe a destrier if I hit good). For the heavier horses I need at least 3 shots.
Considering my reload time and my ammo limit, this is quite an effort.
Last gen I was using +3 Steel bolts and +3 Heavy Xbow, which altogether does 90 pierce damage per shot +/- speed bonus, armor,....
I think a +3 Arbalest would not make much of a difference, given that most horses are +3 now I also need 2 shots on a horse to kill it, except maybe a horse at full speed that is charging me at close range.
Remember that as cav, you are the number 1 enemy of any xbow, so either kill them as fast as possible or stay away and hope somebody else takes the xbow guy down.
I played HX this gen (played up to lvl20 or 21) and have to say, this is a real bullshit class. I respecced afterwards to infantry xbow again. I didnt even have the Arabian Warhelicopter and it was very easy to play. Used 2 Light Xbows to be able to shoot down enemy horses quickly, then ride away for the reload... repeat...
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well as i said, it was more of a little rant without crying for a change or anything :mrgreen:
ill just have to adapt, had quite an offensive playstyle for a while, but that doesnt work with my setup as well anymore.
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I feel heavy lance is a great check on other lance users now, and provides some of the overall best all-around usefulness. With a long stab, decent couch range, okay damage against infantry, good damage against other horses (head-on), best at winning head-on encounters against lancers. A lot of the other lances/types of cav offer more specialized roles. I find it interesting that it's not great at everything, and trading power for length/utility.
I just feel that unloomed heavy lance is too weak and the couching modifiers were already properly adjusted, so increasing it back a bit seems reasonable. I feel that the damage numbers, 25 for heavy lance, 27 for lance, and 28 for light lance, based on the differences in length, are quite nice. Lance could even live with 26 imo..
I find the regular lance is extremely good against 1h/2h cav, and infantry can be taken down quite well, although my horse does usually soak a hit more often than the heavy lance.
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nerf lancer cav but buff 2h cav
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At full speed a HX can do about the same damage as an arbalest, just ridiculous when you compare it to HA's
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At full speed a HX can do about the same damage as an arbalest, just ridiculous when you compare it to HA's
Is the speed bonus of the HX horse added to the xbow damage?
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Is the speed bonus of the HX horse added to the xbow damage?
Not to sure, but it does seem like it
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Not to sure, but it does seem like it
If this is true I hope they dont get the full speed bonus but a reduced one. With a 7/30 lolbuild and 5HA the reticule while full speed is pretty small and its quite easy to hit somebody. Still the long reload on horse is a penalty but the very low str-requirement in combination with no-skill-point-required (except WM) is a too-easy combo imo.
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The heavy lance is still the best lance for going 1v1 against another lancer. That being said, if your heavy lance isn't masterworked, you're going to only be useful trying to take out other lancers head to head. Which is about the worst use for cavalry if you're trying to help your team win.
23 pierce damage is way too low on the unloomed heavy lance, way too low.
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Is the speed bonus of the HX horse added to the xbow damage?
As far as I know, no, it isn't. However, if the enemy moves towards the bolt it adds to the damage.