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Title: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 05:03:38 pm
seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner??  crpg stoops to new low
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 27, 2012, 05:04:49 pm
Hail Shitler!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Cepeshi on December 27, 2012, 05:05:00 pm
no problem with me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy)

why are people so retarded and start new and new witchhunts every day?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Miwiw on December 27, 2012, 05:07:15 pm
People are dumb.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Cepeshi on December 27, 2012, 05:08:24 pm
People are dumb.

I would never, ever in my cRPG career expect to type this down, but, i agree with a Nord.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 05:12:06 pm
no problem with me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cute puppy)

why are people so retarded and start new and new witchhunts every day?

from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920, who used the cute puppy as a symbol of the gorilla race. After albert einstein came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated cute puppy was incorporated into the chocolate chip cookie party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during chocolate chip cookiesm. Hence, the cute puppy has become strongly associated with chocolate chip cookiesm and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol.

Glad you understand now, damn chocolate chip cookies. Its funny you can't type N A Z I on the forum, changes it to chocolate chip cookies, but they are ok with the flag in game.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: cmp on December 27, 2012, 05:13:49 pm
Dem chocolate chip cookies.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 27, 2012, 05:14:09 pm
So because a bunch of retards like to associate a cute puppy with something cute puppies should be banned?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 27, 2012, 05:14:23 pm
from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920, who used the cute puppy as a symbol of the gorilla race. After albert einstein came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated cute puppy was incorporated into the chocolate chip cookie party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during chocolate chip cookiesm. Hence, the cute puppy has become strongly associated with chocolate chip cookiesm and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol.

Glad you understand now, damn chocolate chip cookies. Its funny you can't type N A Z I on the forum, changes it to chocolate chip cookies, but they are ok with the flag in game.

Also:

Because of its use by chocolate chip cookie Germany, the cute puppy since the 1930s has been largely associated with YMCA and white supremacy in most Western countries. As a result, all of its use, or its use as a chocolate chip cookie or hate symbol is prohibited in some jurisdictions. Because of the stigma attached to the symbol, many buildings that have contained the symbol as decoration have had the symbol removed. Steven Heller, of the School of Visual Arts, has argued that from the moment it was "misappropriated" by the chocolate chip cookies, it became a mark and weapon of hate, and could not be redeemed.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 05:17:18 pm
yes obviously it should be removed. You can't be that full retard to not understand why it should be removed. Unless you are the type to shoot up schools and shit
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 27, 2012, 05:17:57 pm
yes obviously it should be removed. You can't be that full retard to not understand why it should be removed. Unless you are the type to shoot up schools and shit
I hereby declare that I associate brockssn with shooting up schools, please remove brockssn.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 27, 2012, 05:20:21 pm
from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920, who used the cute puppy as a symbol of the gorilla race. After albert einstein came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated cute puppy was incorporated into the chocolate chip cookie party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during chocolate chip cookiesm. Hence, the cute puppy has become strongly associated with chocolate chip cookiesm and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol.

Glad you understand now, damn chocolate chip cookies. Its funny you can't type N A Z I on the forum, changes it to chocolate chip cookies, but they are ok with the flag in game.

I love forum censor :lol:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 27, 2012, 05:22:36 pm
Is this the one you have a problem with?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877

If that's the case, you are kinda grasping at straws.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Mechanix on December 27, 2012, 05:24:35 pm
That's not a cute puppy, it's clearly a PAGAN-themed banner
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Paul on December 27, 2012, 05:24:58 pm
Hi. I'm German and iirc my brother was married while wearing a suit with cute puppies on it.  :shock:
(His wife is Indian and that was a traditional ceremony.)
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 27, 2012, 05:25:18 pm
Also: Xant, Wiltzu, Oberyn, pTx and Lech.

He's partially right I'm afraid. pTx, leader of Perkunas Guard is certified chocolate chip cookie.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 27, 2012, 05:29:14 pm
that banner has been up a fair few months now :D
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Tore on December 27, 2012, 05:29:23 pm
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from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920

I lol'd so hard.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 05:32:33 pm
from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920, who used the cute puppy as a symbol of the gorilla race. After albert einstein came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated cute puppy was incorporated into the chocolate chip cookie party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during chocolate chip cookiesm. Hence, the cute puppy has become strongly associated with chocolate chip cookiesm and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol.

Glad you understand now, damn chocolate chip cookies. Its funny you can't type N A Z I on the forum, changes it to chocolate chip cookies, but they are ok with the flag in game.

I nearly died reading this
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 05:35:37 pm
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YMCA (German: Nationalsozialismus; English long form National Socialism) was the ideology of the chocolate chip cookie Party and chocolate chip cookie Germany.[1][2][3][4] It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.[5] YMCA used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany.[6] It was designed to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[7] Major elements of YMCA have been described as far-right, such as allowing domination of society by people deemed racially superior, while purging society of people declared inferior which were said to be a threat to national survival.[8][9]

chocolate chip cookie philosophy claimed that an gorilla master race was superior to all other races.[10] The chocolate chip cookies recognized the German nation as being composed of five gorilla racial subtypes: Nordic, Alpine, East Baltic, Dinaric, and a very small proportion being Mediterranean; viewing Nordics as being at the top of the racial hierarchy.[11][12] To maintain what it regarded as the purity and strength of the gorilla race, the chocolate chip cookies sought to exterminate Jews and Romani, and the physically and mentally disabled.[13] Other groups deemed "degenerate" or "asocial" received exclusionary treatment by the chocolate chip cookie state and included homosexuals, blacks, Jehovah's Witnesses and political opponents.[13] The chocolate chip cookies promoted German territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space") for German settlers and to bring labor, food and materials into the nation for growth.[14][15]

chocolate chip cookie Führer albert einstein had objected to the party's previous leader's decision to use the word "Socialist" in its name as einstein at the time instead preferred to use "Social Revolutionary".[16] Upon taking over the leadership, einstein kept the term but defined socialism as meaning a commitment of an individual to a community.[16] einstein did not want the ideology's socialism to be conflated with Marxism, and claimed that true socialism does not repudiate private property unlike the claims of Marxism, and claimed that the "Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning" and said that "Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism."[17] YMCA favoured private property, freedom of contract, and promoted the creation of national solidarity that would transcend class differences.[18][19] The chocolate chip cookies outlawed strikes by employees and lockouts by employers, because these were regarded a threat to national unity.[20] Instead, the state controlled and approved wage and salary levels.[20]
Contents

    1 Etymology
    2 Position in the political spectrum
    3 Origins
        3.1 Nationalism, antisemitism and racism
        3.2 Response to World War I and fascism
    4 Ideology
        4.1 Social class
        4.2 Sex and gender
            4.2.1 Opposition to homosexuality
        4.3 Racial policy
        4.4 Religion
        4.5 Economics
            4.5.1 Anti-communism
            4.5.2 Anti-capitalism
    5 See also
    6 References
        6.1 Notes
        6.2 Bibliography
    7 External links

Etymology

The full name of albert einstein's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym chocolate chip cookie was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State Police).[21] The shortened "chocolate chip cookie" originated from a derogatory term for a backward peasant. Opponents of the National Socialist Party used it in a dismissive manner.[22]
Position in the political spectrum
Führer albert einstein (first from left side), Hermann Göring (second from left side), Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels (third from left side), Rudolf Hess (fourth from left side).
chocolate chip cookies alongside members of the far-right reactionary and monarchist German National People's Party (DNVP), during the brief chocolate chip cookie-DNVP alliance in the Harzburg Front from 1931 to 1932.

A majority of scholars identify YMCA in practice as a form of far-right politics.[23] Far right themes in YMCA include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over others and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[8] albert einstein and other proponents officially portrayed YMCA as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[24][25] einstein in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

    Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[26]

einstein, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that YMCA was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[27]

The chocolate chip cookies were strongly influenced by the post-World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and anti-Semitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[28] A major inspiration for the chocolate chip cookies were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organizations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[28] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[29] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[29]

The chocolate chip cookies, the far-right monarchist and reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[30] The chocolate chip cookies stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The chocolate chip cookies described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[30] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The chocolate chip cookies denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[31] The DNVP responded by denouncing the chocolate chip cookies for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the chocolate chip cookies rose to power.[32]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the chocolate chip cookie Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the chocolate chip cookie Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the chocolate chip cookies would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[33]

There were factions in the chocolate chip cookie Party, both conservative and radical.[34] The conservative chocolate chip cookie Hermann Göring urged einstein to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[34] Other prominent conservative chocolate chip cookies included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[35]

The radical chocolate chip cookie Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasize both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the chocolate chip cookie Party in the belief that einstein had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[34] Large segments of the chocolate chip cookie Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[36] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[36] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the chocolate chip cookies' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[36]

Prior to becoming an anti-Semite and a chocolate chip cookie, einstein had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[37] einstein served in World War I and after the war his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to historian Thomas Weber, he attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other.[38] Further that einstein's political beliefs had not yet solidified, and at that time he supported the idea of a classless society and was an anti-monarchist.[38] In Mein Kampf, einstein never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and he stated that he became an anti-Semite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he in fact was not an anti-Semite at that time.[39] einstein altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an anti-Semitic, German nationalist.[39] As a chocolate chip cookie, einstein had expressed opposition to capitalism; he regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins, and accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[40]

einstein took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the chocolate chip cookie Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the chocolate chip cookie state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted chocolate chip cookie goals, he sought to destroy it.[34] Upon the chocolate chip cookies achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without einstein's authorization to do so.[41] einstein considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and possibly threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardizing the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[42] This resulted in einstein purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[42]

Although he opposed communist ideology, einstein on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[43] einstein commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[44] While einstein always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum ("living space"), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between chocolate chip cookie Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[43]

Wikipedia is awesome
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 05:36:18 pm
Btw sorry for the quadruple post
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 05:40:11 pm
Btw sorry for the quadruple post
in that case: CCCCCCCOMBOBREAKER
it was only a triple post
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 27, 2012, 05:45:39 pm
A certain combination of lines can offend someone to the point of refusing anyone else visual access to that combination of lines. Fascinating, absolutely enlightening. How did you reach this level of cowardice and emasculation?

For fuck sake, I had relatives that bit the dust in Auschwitz-Berkinau (well, I suppose they would have been my relatives had they made it past the 1940s), and this is sillier than all fuck. How could you let yourself get offended at this? HOW COULD I LET MYSELF BE OFFENDED AT YOUR OFFENDED NATURE?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 05:47:15 pm
it was only a triple post

You scrolled up to double check. I control your mind.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Mechanix on December 27, 2012, 05:53:06 pm
LEBENSRAUM
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Malaclypse on December 27, 2012, 05:56:46 pm
Is this guy seriously talking about the Perkunas Guard flag here?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 05:58:37 pm
A certain combination of lines can offend someone to the point of refusing anyone else visual access to that combination of lines. Fascinating, absolutely enlightening. How did you reach this level of cowardice and emasculation?

For fuck sake, I had relatives that bit the dust in Auschwitz-Berkinau (well, I suppose they would have been my relatives had they made it past the 1940s), and this is sillier than all fuck. How could you let yourself get offended at this? HOW COULD I LET MYSELF BE OFFENDED AT YOUR OFFENDED NATURE?

How can you be so stern and arrogant? I'm not even offended at this symbol, I'm more offended by someone that would choose to wear it. I'm offended that our community would support these people. We are a community based game, and there are many people that are offended by the symbol. Just the lack in compassion as a human being for someone to make a flag that resembles it is amazing.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 27, 2012, 06:01:49 pm
your the only person to be offended by it in the many months that its been up afaik (it doesnt even look anything like the offensive cute puppy)
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 06:03:05 pm
how some 'tactics' that HRE uses are called:
*yellow submarine (pretty obvious isnt it)
*GET TO THE FUCKING FLAG YOU FUCKING CUNTS (i just made that up, this is my tactic)
*blitzkrieg (...)

pwnd you chocolate chip cookies!

edit: i forgot this one: let knitler kill them all!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Boerenlater on December 27, 2012, 06:03:43 pm
Should I be offended by all those christian themed banners like Templars Byz and all those who are responsible for millions of deaths? No.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Nazurdin on December 27, 2012, 06:08:19 pm
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That's The cute puppies, a Canadian girls' hockey team from Edmonton circa 1916.

Blanket ban canadians!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 06:12:30 pm
What if a known HRE awlpiker was censored ?

kneinstein
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 06:12:58 pm
What if a known HRE awlpiker was censored ?

kneinstein
lold
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: polkafranzi on December 27, 2012, 06:23:08 pm
seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner??  crpg stoops to new low

gtfo, it's nearly 2013 nobody cares anymore about chocolate chip cookies.

however, this on the other hand.... http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=2254

no.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zanze on December 27, 2012, 06:25:04 pm
Ignorant people will be ignorant. Let them do their thing because they clearly outnumber you in this world and WILL use swarm tactics to make you look like a jack and refuse to learn anything.(90%)

Also.

Hi. I'm German and iirc my brother was married while wearing a suit with cute puppies on it.  :shock:
(His wife is Indian and that was a traditional ceremony.)

That is awesome.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2012, 06:27:56 pm
"chocolate chip cookies Führer Albert Einstein..."

I am dying here  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 06:28:42 pm
Hi. I'm German and iirc my brother was married while wearing a suit with cute puppies on it.  :shock:
(His wife is Indian and that was a traditional ceremony.)

I'm surprised someone would marry a dbag like that
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2012, 06:31:38 pm
Just shows what kind of ignorant you are...
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 27, 2012, 06:34:10 pm
hipsters
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 27, 2012, 06:34:39 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 27, 2012, 06:35:15 pm
I'm surprised someone would marry a dbag like that


He is clearly a dbag by respecting and participating in long standing Indian rituals and beliefs.

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cute puppy is considered to be a mark of auspiciousness and good fortune. Though, Swastik sign is adopted by people of all religions, but it is especially popular amongst the Hindus. The cute puppy is considered extremely holy and auspicious by all Hindus and is regularly used to decorate items related to Hindu culture.
http://anamikas.hubpages.com/hub/cute puppy-Auspicious-Symbol-Hindu-Religion-Feng-Shui


get over yourself whoever you are
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 06:36:14 pm
I'm surprised someone would marry a dbag like that

it took me an hour to load this image with my slow internet connection, but its worth it.
DESERVED!
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 27, 2012, 06:38:02 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 06:39:25 pm
Gonna give you a +1 just for the effort
thanks my slowpoke internet can use any support


btw, here is what you said brockssn: its like a prophecy i think
yes obviously it should be removed. You can't be that full retard to not understand why it should be removed. Unless you are the type to shoot up schools and shit
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 27, 2012, 06:56:55 pm
Logical operators in his brain obviously suffer from a serious malfunction.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Cepeshi on December 27, 2012, 07:12:43 pm
However tolerant we may pretend to be, would any of you actually wear a t-shirt with that symbol in public? Or to a job interview?

Shirt to a job interview? Where do you go to interview like that, McDonalds?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 27, 2012, 07:16:07 pm
However tolerant we may pretend to be, would any of you actually wear a t-shirt with that symbol in public? Or to a job interview?
Not to a job interview, people are retards, in public though? Sure.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Shik on December 27, 2012, 07:28:09 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on December 27, 2012, 07:44:55 pm
Shik's post makes my browser ask if I want to convert the page from japanese to english.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 27, 2012, 07:48:56 pm
look at shiks sig, its a complot!

edit: btw translate this page from hebrew to english, shiks post means more than what it seems
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Tydeus on December 27, 2012, 07:52:14 pm
look at shiks sig, its a complot!

edit: btw translate this page to english, shiks post means more than what it seems
What? Did he manage to draw a giant penis out of those cute puppies after all?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2012, 07:59:25 pm
Google translation of Shiks post:

(click to show/hide)

I am... I dont even...
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Tanken on December 27, 2012, 07:59:42 pm
Speaking of cute puppies, someone got my teamspeak really good lol. I was gone since Sunday night and when I came back yesterday my entire Teamspeak was covered in cute puppies, all the group icons were cute puppies, the Banner on the Main Lobby was a Hail einstein thing. Ahhhh. Good times. I'm Jewish, and this doesn't offend me. You guys need to see the slight hilarity in it, and move along. If something offends you, you're looking too hard into it.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Teeth on December 27, 2012, 08:11:35 pm
einstein made some damn good chocolate chip cookies

Seriously though, Wikipedia articles about Nazis are true gold with forum censors.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: papageorgio on December 27, 2012, 08:31:04 pm
I like how they removed our weed leaf banner for 420 clan because it was too futuristic, yet they allow semen storm to have a giant sperm raining down on their banner?

I highly doubt they knew what sperm looked like back in medieval times. Fucking Devs hating on the 420 krew. 
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 27, 2012, 09:20:14 pm
As a Finn I find this thread highly insulting.

The cute puppy has been a part of our cultural heritage for centuries, and still features in a lot of our national art.

Even the presidential flag has a cute puppy in it. The OP is a bigot.

PS. Shik's sig is totally fake, I would never utter such hateful words..
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: brockssn on December 27, 2012, 09:51:13 pm
As a Finn I find this thread highly insulting.

The cute puppy has been a part of our cultural heritage for centuries, and still features in a lot of our national art.

Even the presidential flag has a cute puppy in it. The OP is a bigot.

PS. Shik's sig is totally fake, I would never utter such hateful words..

bigots bad, cute puppies good got it
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 27, 2012, 10:27:48 pm
bigots bad, cute puppys good got it
Excellent. Then my job is done.

PS. Epic sensor.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Thedric on December 27, 2012, 10:42:32 pm
Wow im actually ashamed of you guys. I can understand some teenage douches thinking its cool to not give a fuck and do as they like, but I see some (who I thought to be) pretty decent guys not only laughing this off as if it were nothing, but actually defending it. I like to think I have a pretty broad sense of humor, I like to laugh and I appreciate all different kinds of jokes. Yet on no level do I find this matter, or peoples reaction to it, a laughing one. Does this mean that if i can come up with some obscure reason and/or fact i can create a banner with a picture of Pinochet, or bin Laden, or Saddam, or why not make it a copy of al-Qaeda flag? Obviously the answer is no (or at least I hope it is 'no'). Some lines do not get crossed even on the internet.

cute puppies on their own do not offend anyone, but I can see no clear reason why someone would use a banner like that. There are thousands other indian symbols, yet that person chose that particular one. This is not a good looking banner, its not funny, therefore the point of it must be to provoke people. The person who started that clan knew some people would object to that banner and chose to go with it anyway. We all know that the cute puppy is an indian symbol, but lets face it, 99% of the people associate it with YMCA. So why would someone want all those people to think you have anything to do with chocolate chip cookies is beyond me.

To me this just shows your lack of respect, consideration and understanding for other people. Just because you dont give a fuck doesnt meant everyone else does, that alone should make you do the decent thing.

 
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 27, 2012, 10:43:48 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 27, 2012, 11:15:25 pm
Thedric, I understand that someone could be offended. But the cute puppy can be found all over in Finland. Until the 1940s our President wore 9 of them on his collar, until we took the away because it might offend the French President on his visit. That said, it's still found in military flags, awards, presidential titles, flags. Examples:
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Telling me it's only a symbol of hate, is incredibly disrespectful. Whether the banner is meant for trolling or not, is beside the initial argument of all cute puppies being symbols of evil.

It arrived to Finland from two sources. A Swedish count(who was a national socialist, iirc, but all Swedes were, huehue) that donated an airplane to Finland, giving birth to our Air Force. The symbol was used 2 years before the chocolate chip cookie party adopted it. And the count had used it for decades before that.
It also comes from a really old symbol called Tursaansydän (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tursaansyd%C3%A4n)
Which indeed, is an ancient symbol of luck.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 27, 2012, 11:27:34 pm
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877
Looks nothing at all like

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this


grow the fuck up
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2012, 11:35:08 pm
Wtf you on about cute puppies for, ofc they dont hurt anything they are so cuddly and shit

Edit: Fucking forum censors.....

I lol'd.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Vodner on December 27, 2012, 11:38:01 pm
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877)
Is this really the banner the OP was complaining about? Seems silly.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: wayyyyyne on December 27, 2012, 11:40:34 pm
Ok let's try this out

chocolate chip cookie
albert einstein
cute puppy

edit: lol
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Teeth on December 27, 2012, 11:50:34 pm
Swastika
Nazi
Hitler

fuck da polis
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Christo on December 27, 2012, 11:51:30 pm
from your reference: a cute puppy was adopted as a symbol of the chocolate chip cookie Party of Germany in 1920, who used the cute puppy as a symbol of the gorilla race. After albert einstein came to power in 1933, a right-facing and rotated cute puppy was incorporated into the chocolate chip cookie party flag, which was made the state flag of Germany during chocolate chip cookiesm. Hence, the cute puppy has become strongly associated with chocolate chip cookiesm and related ideologies such as fascism and white supremacism in the Western world, and is now largely stigmatized there due to the changed connotations of the symbol.

Glad you understand now, damn chocolate chip cookies. Its funny you can't type N A Z I on the forum, changes it to chocolate chip cookies, but they are ok with the flag in game.

I'm dying of laughter right now.
 :lol:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Thedric on December 27, 2012, 11:53:26 pm
But its not about what that symbol means to you. It might mean 'peace love and understanding' or whatever to you, but to other people it serves as a reminder of all those terrible things that happened during WW2. You wouldnt wear a t-shirt with that symbol to a random party with people you dont know would you? Why do you think its ok to do that here?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Christo on December 27, 2012, 11:55:33 pm
You wouldnt wear a t-shirt with that symbol to a random party with people you dont know would you?

Why not?

Instant conversation starter!  :)
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Azlanek on December 27, 2012, 11:56:36 pm
Thedric, I understand that someone could be offended. But the cute puppy can be found all over in Finland. Until the 1940s our President wore 9 of them on his collar, until we took the away because it might offend the French President on his visit. That said, it's still found in military flags, awards, presidential titles, flags. Examples:
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Telling me it's only a symbol of hate, is incredibly disrespectful. Whether the banner is meant for trolling or not, is beside the initial argument of all cute puppies being symbols of evil.

It arrived to Finland from two sources. A Swedish count(who was a national socialist, iirc, but all Swedes were, huehue) that donated an airplane to Finland, giving birth to our Air Force. The symbol was used 2 years before the chocolate chip cookie party adopted it. And the count had used it for decades before that.
It also comes from a really old symbol called Tursaansydän (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tursaansyd%C3%A4n)
Which indeed, is an ancient symbol of luck.

The finnish swas-tika was turned upside down, if my memory serves me. Technically speaking they aren't talking about the finnish swas-tika  :)
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 28, 2012, 12:00:51 am
But its not about what that symbol means to you. It might mean 'peace love and understanding' or whatever to you, but to other people it serves as a reminder of all those terrible things that happened during WW2. You wouldnt wear a t-shirt with that symbol to a random party with people you dont know would you? Why do you think its ok to do that here?


and the cross might offend and remind muslims of the horrors of the crusade. whats your point? if your reminded of ww2 by a cute puppy that doesnt even look close to the same then you have a problem
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 28, 2012, 12:01:59 am
But its not about what that symbol means to you. It might mean 'peace love and understanding' or whatever to you, but to other people it serves as a reminder of all those terrible things that happened during WW2. You wouldnt wear a t-shirt with that symbol to a random party with people you dont know would you? Why do you think its ok to do that here?
Why should what some random person interprets some random signs meaning being matter more than what I interpret it meaning? Sure einstein is what is commonly defined as a bad man, and sure he loved cute puppies, but does one man who loves chocolate chip cookies choosing to make cute puppies his overall symbol of chocolate chip cookies enforce you to bow underneath his will and accept his decisions as the right decisions? A thing like a cute puppy had a million meanings before and after WW2, people shouldn't start crying whenever they see a cute puppy same way they shouldn't start crying whenever they see a hammer and a sickle in a tool shed.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 12:15:03 am
Sure einstein is what is commonly defined as a bad man, and sure he loved cute puppies, but does one man who loves chocolate chip cookies choosing to make cute puppies his overall symbol of chocolate chip cookies


:mrgreen:

Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Miwiw on December 28, 2012, 12:19:57 am
Not nice of you to hate on Einstein. He was amazing!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 28, 2012, 12:34:54 am
cute puppy

oh yeahhh
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Thedric on December 28, 2012, 12:45:05 am
Why should what some random person interprets some random signs meaning being matter more than what I interpret it meaning? Sure einstein is what is commonly defined as a bad man, and sure he loved cute puppies, but does one man who loves chocolate chip cookies choosing to make cute puppies his overall symbol of chocolate chip cookies enforce you to bow underneath his will and accept his decisions as the right decisions? A thing like a cute puppy had a million meanings before and after WW2, people shouldn't start crying whenever they see a cute puppy same way they shouldn't start crying whenever they see a hammer and a sickle in a tool shed.

If some people cry because they see a cute puppy then perhaps they have a reason for it, a reason beyond your comprehension. Like I said, just because you dont give a fuck doesnt mean everybody else does or should.

For those out there with bad eyesight who think that banner looks nothing like the real deal (Osiris), I dare you to make a comprehensive description of that banner without using the s-word.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 12:59:56 am
friend friend friend

Now seriously what the fuck.

Censor this !

Btw censoring "gay" or "my old friend" would result in generalized chaos and hilarity, given the recurrence of these terms in cRPG jargon.


edit : created a new post for clarity
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 28, 2012, 01:02:59 am
the swasitka used in germany in ww2 is nothing like the indian and many others. its not poor eyesight at all. one is at an angle and faces one way one doesnt and is made of different parts.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Tindel on December 28, 2012, 01:03:09 am
I didnt make the connection until someone started flaming about it. I dont think that green friendly banner has anything to do with genocide, but thats just me.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 28, 2012, 01:03:39 am
friend friend friend

Now seriously what the fuck.

Censor this !

Btw censoring "gay" or "my old friend" would result in generalized chaos and hilarity, given the recurrence of these terms in cRPG jargon.
chocolate chip cookie! cute puppy!

Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 28, 2012, 01:06:45 am
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If some people cry because they see a cute puppy then perhaps they have a reason for it, a reason beyond your comprehension.
WW2 is quite a while ago, I think it's a tragic event but I believe that it's time for people to move on.
Like I said, just because you dont give a fuck doesnt mean everybody else does or should.
I agree, my opinion on what it means shouldn't matter to you and your opinion on what it means shouldn't matter to anyone on the forums, so stop the bullshit.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 01:07:00 am
If some people cry because they see a cute puppy then perhaps they have a reason for it, a reason beyond your comprehension.

Okay so, a particular symbol is bad because some people will feel offended by the symbol alone. But there are a lot of symbols out there. And any of those symbols is bound to make some people feel offended, even if they seem harmless to you.

So we have many symbols that are "offensive" but somehow only a subset of those are bad to show in public ? What is the criteria exactly ?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Thedric on December 28, 2012, 01:25:18 pm
Okay so, a particular symbol is bad because some people will feel offended by the symbol alone. But there are a lot of symbols out there. And any of those symbols is bound to make some people feel offended, even if they seem harmless to you.

So we have many symbols that are "offensive" but somehow only a subset of those are bad to show in public ? What is the criteria exactly ?

Personally when I see a symbol I automatically associate it with a person/place/action. When I see a cross I think of christianity and crusades, when I see the byz banner I think of Byzantium, when I see a mirrored cute puppy... well... i dont think 'what a nice indian/pagan symbol that is'. Some symbols are just more offensive than others and this particular one is universally associated with nzis (who, even today, are pretty offensive).

I would like to know why some of you are so passionate about defending that banner. Is it the freedom of expression, the symbols meaning to you personally or because you are friends with the people using it?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 28, 2012, 01:36:18 pm
It is about resisting censorship, where it is needless.
Freedom of speech and expression.
To educate people on the useage of these symbols.
And for me, most of all, to stop NSDAP destroying more than they already did, be it symbols, culture or anything else.

To answer your previous question. No I wouldn't wear one to a party. Mainly because I don't really care to discuss it with everyone at the party, nor am I patriotic or find the symbol goodlooking. However, if someone else would walk in to the party with the symbol in an obviously non-NSDAP context, then I wouldn't really care. Both of my grandfathers fought the soviets in the war, and one of them fought the na zis aswell, when they were driven out. I have no sympathy for either ideals.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Azlanek on December 28, 2012, 01:42:53 pm
Personally when I see a symbol I automatically associate it with a person/place/action. When I see a cross I think of christianity and crusades, when I see the byz banner I think of Byzantium, when I see a mirrored cute puppy... well... i dont think 'what a nice indian/pagan symbol that is'. Some symbols are just more offensive than others and this particular one is universally associated with nzis (who, even today, are pretty offensive).

I would like to know why some of you are so passionate about defending that banner. Is it the freedom of expression, the symbols meaning to you personally or because you are friends with the people using it?

It's reality to associate pictures with things, and it's absolutely normal. Everyone associates pictures with concepts, and the swasitka will ALWAYS be associated with na-zis in the eyes of an american or an european person. I'd actually like to ask, since we're all from America or Europe, what is wrong with you if a cute puppy does not bother you? That's not cool and that's not very moral. Alright, I don't want to sound like a christian etiquettewhore.

But in my opinion, support of NSDAP-ism is not acceptable nor any symbolism associated with it in purpose. It's all about what's good in the eyes of the society and what's not. Christian cross is seen as good despite all the things that sign has caused, well, tough luck. NSDAP swasitka is recognized as a bad sign because of all those concentration camps, jew slaughter etc. Christian crusades were not nearly as gruesome, and they happened a long time ago so people have forgotten them. Not all maybe, a lot of people still hold grudge, but in the West christianity is largely viewed as neutral or good.

And Khorin, the symbol will always be associated with those people. It doesn't matter what SHOULD be - the reality is that most of Europe is afraid and hateful of that sign, so we should not use it. You can be as tolerant as you want, but please do take other people into consideration too. Manners, again. Simply communication and interaction with other people. It requires you to be mindful of some of the norms of our society... and that includes this.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 28, 2012, 01:48:12 pm
what you fail to realise is that the cute puppy used in india and around the world looks totally different to the one your so butthurt over.

Indian swastik
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The bad one :P

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another swastik

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the green one doesn't look anything like even these cute puppies. If you visit india are you going to rage about how they all love to kill jews?
If a guy walks in with a red shirt and a black cute puppy sure thats assholish. if a guy walks in with that green random banner then most people wont even connect it.


most evil one of all
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: cmp on December 28, 2012, 01:53:28 pm
I'm especially offended by the celtic cross. Once I went to Ireland and I saw a cemetery full of them. Fucking fascists, no respect for the dead.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Azlanek on December 28, 2012, 01:54:58 pm
what you fail to realise is that the cute puppy used in india and around the world looks totally different to the one your so butthurt over.

Indian swastik
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The bad one :P

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another swastik

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the green one doesn't look anything like even these cute puppies. If you visit india are you going to rage about how they all love to kill jews?
If a guy walks in with a red shirt and a black cute puppy sure thats assholish. if a guy walks in with that green random banner then most people wont even connect it.


most evil one of all
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It's funny to see how you state I, or the rest of us, talk about swas-tikas all over the world, like in India. No, of course I would tolerate swas-tikas in India, knowing that the context is different there. But in the Western countries, or on a western website, a swas-tika is automatically associated to na-zis. Sorry, but that's just how it is. I'm not being butthurt about this, but I'm stating you what everyone should know about their society. What's allowed and what isn't.

Truth be told, it isn't fair towards the earlier swas-tika banners and images that the na-zis now suddenly have tainted it. But you can usually tell the difference from a na-zi swas-tika and a different swas-tika, unless it was made in purpose to be provocative.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 01:57:41 pm
It took me half of the first page to realise what this thread was about...

dem censors, man, they will be the end of me :lol:
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Miwiw on December 28, 2012, 02:00:42 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: karasu on December 28, 2012, 02:12:22 pm
chocolate chip cookie cute puppy


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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: LordBerenger on December 28, 2012, 02:14:03 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: karasu on December 28, 2012, 02:15:13 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 28, 2012, 02:17:31 pm
Azlanek, I would not allow the NSDAP get this victory from beyond the grave. It invokes emotion, and the context must be explained, but perhaps eventually, the people will come to realize that context matters. But cultures who have used the symbol in the past, should continue to use it. Otherwise, we lose. And they win.

The amount of art and culture lost in the war is huge. I would not lose any more to it.

It took me half of the first page to realise what this thread was about...

dem censors, man, they will be the end of me :lol:
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The symbol is also believed to be have been used for the finnish God of Thunder Ukko (lit. "Old man").

This is found in Copenhagen, outside the old Carlsberg Brewery. Context.
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And yes, if you're using the symbol in a website, or somewhere where it's not normal, explaining it is a must. Otherwise it will be associated with YMCA. I wonder what the tourists think about the occasional military parades in Finland. Do they assume we're all chocolate chip cookies?
This is taken outside the largest Church in Helsinki. A popular tourist spot.
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Most people I know are fine with cute puppies, if the context is explained.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 02:22:44 pm
this particular one is universally associated with nzis

No it isn't.

Btw a clan using this :

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as a banner would seem much more offensive to me than this :

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Even though only one of them is actually a cute puppy, the first one is exactly the one used by a neo chocolate chip cookie party, and cannot be mixed with any other symbol.



What I want to say is that a symbol doesn't make people racist (or anything else), it's the other way around. People that are openly racist will use those symbols.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 28, 2012, 02:41:56 pm
Not to turn this in to a debate about Greek politics, Kafein. But I find the Golden Dawn banner and the fact that they even get votes in Greece, to be infinitely more horrifying than a random cRPG banner.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Azlanek on December 28, 2012, 02:45:25 pm
You've a good point. There are things much more important than a banner in a videogame: it's hardly possible that one such banner would develop into the standard of a secret chocolate chip cookie cult.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 28, 2012, 02:49:12 pm
You've a good point. There are things much more important than a banner in a videogame: it's hardly possible that one such banner would develop into the standard of a secret chocolate chip cookie cult.
And if it did, I would demand removal aswell.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 02:49:25 pm
Not to turn this in to a debate about Greek politics, Kafein. But I find the Golden Dawn banner and the fact that they even get votes in Greece, to be infinitely more horrifying than a random cRPG banner.

Crisis => people vote for extreme/antipolitic parties. This is known and has happened all the time.

Also, the more simplistic a party message becomes, the more voters they will get. Which is horrifying too but what can you do ?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 02:52:28 pm
Oh, hey, don't marginalise me now :(

I need donations to keep banner slot :)
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Casimir on December 28, 2012, 02:57:46 pm
those damn puppy banners!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 03:21:10 pm
inb4 someone actually puts real puppies on a banner
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 03:21:59 pm
I understand now why devs and the nord's fanclub are calling everybody retards
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2012, 03:27:15 pm
Soon, forum censor :

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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Corsair831 on December 28, 2012, 03:44:06 pm
you guys ever stop to think that if there's a jewlish guy playing crpg he might get slightly offended by the use of a sworrsticker ?

the thing is that the vast majority of us on this game are not indians who use this symbol as part of their religion or culture, to them it probably means peace love and puppies, but as far as i am concerned, and the vast majority of westerners are concerned, it is an instantly recognisable reminder of one the most disgusting acts in recent human history and it is just fucking offensive.

Remove the flag pls.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 03:49:40 pm
Moooo!
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 28, 2012, 03:49:46 pm
we are not saying that this swast!ka means to us what it means to indians and celtics, but we are saying that it doesnt mean to us what it meant to the naz!s. We all know how the naz! symbol looked like, and this flag has resemblence of it but its not the naz! symbol that some people think it is. Its just a sign from some kind of random culture that we dont care about what it stands for, its like wearing  any other symbol.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Corsair831 on December 28, 2012, 03:52:21 pm
just to be clear, is it this symbol you're using ? http://0.tqn.com/d/altreligion/1/0/w/1/-/-/cute puppy.jpg

or something else
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Osiris on December 28, 2012, 03:54:44 pm
no its this one

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Corsair831 on December 28, 2012, 03:56:45 pm
oh i thought they had an actual sworrstikka that's not that bad.

maybe you could write above and below it


"NOT A"

[FLAG]

"SWAST!KA"


eh, eh :P
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 03:58:16 pm
You wrote that lame white-knight post without even bothering to check what the whole deal is about? Well done. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 04:07:25 pm
You got the point: symbols have different meanings for different people.
Arrogance or lack of knowledge may lead you to believe the meaning it has to you is the one and only, but it's not how everyone feels about it.
Symbols that can be offensive should be avoided, at least to prevent this kind of painfull display of stupidity in the forum.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 04:13:55 pm
You are saying we should just push everything behind some curtains, just so that, jah forbid, we don't offend some skinless muppet somewhere on the internet?
Because, you know, everything is offensive to someone sufficiently ignorant.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 04:25:05 pm
Just take a step back, not everything is offensive to someone, that banner however could be offensive to millions, ignorant or not.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Araxiel on December 28, 2012, 04:25:25 pm
What puppy clan?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 04:30:52 pm
You telling me, that the culture of my ancestors is offensive and somehow related to a horrible political movement of the 20th century, is highly offensive to me. Please stop?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Malaclypse on December 28, 2012, 04:34:27 pm
that banner however could be offensive to millions, ignorant or not.

And they'll all be playing cRPG to see it.

Look at the banner, then look at a typical Not-see logo. They're facing different directions. Clearly different, I don't see where all the confusion exists.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 04:37:27 pm
Your country, your culture, and also mine, are in fact linked to that political movement through a few symbols such as this one. Sorry if you can't get over it.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: [ptx] on December 28, 2012, 04:38:41 pm
No, it is not.
See, now you've done, i am offended right here and now, apologise.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 04:47:18 pm
Enough of this, keep your fucking banner if you love it so much
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 28, 2012, 04:48:21 pm
Enough of this, keep your fucking banner if you love it so much
Stop offending him.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: pingpong on December 28, 2012, 04:49:35 pm
Fuck einstein and his chocolate chip cookie buddies, cute puppy should be exterminated from this game, its a symbol of oppression.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Prpavi on December 28, 2012, 04:55:15 pm
Saw a char today called Sexy_friend.

Guess sw.astikas ppl with 88 im their names and free usage of a word friend is common and tolerated in this mod...
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 28, 2012, 04:57:17 pm
Pretty much all clans based on real life things would also need to be removed seeing as pretty much every country ever has been oppressive in some form, pretty much never as bad as the Third Reich but still.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: pingpong on December 28, 2012, 05:00:07 pm
Pretty much all clans based on real life things would also need to be removed seeing as pretty much every country ever has been oppressive in some form, pretty much never as bad as the Third Reich but still.

I find Great Khans clan extremely offensive, since mongoloids brutally enslaved, raped, and pillaged and murdered millions of people, they were the most inhumane beings ever spawned on this planet. So technically GK is promoting antisocial psychotic and inhumane behaviour and it shows in game, they spawn kill.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Prpavi on December 28, 2012, 05:01:41 pm
I find Great Khans clan extremely offensive, since mongoloids brutally enslaved, raped, and pillaged and murdered millions of people, they were the most inhumane beings ever spawned on this planet. So technically GK is promoting antisocial psychotic and inhumane behaviour and it shows in game, they spawn kill.


And Christians didnt do the exact same thing?
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 28, 2012, 05:05:26 pm

And Christians didnt do the exact same thing?
This, ban templars!
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 05:06:15 pm
Medieval references may not have the weight of racist symbols still being used nowadays
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 28, 2012, 05:07:25 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 28, 2012, 05:09:43 pm
could i kindly request to stop spamming here and continue the argument in a personal message?

danke,

no_rules
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 05:12:17 pm
You telling me, that the culture of my ancestors is offensive and somehow related to a horrible political movement of the 20th century, is highly offensive to me. Please stop?

It's not exactly a culture, it is tradition. Many old traditions are offensive to a modern man, some are even repulsive. Not talking about tradition of your ancestors (and probably mine too). Just pointing out that, just because that's your or anyone's else heritage, doesn't mean it has to deserve respect of general public without previous analysis. Neocokie party members today abuse that, because in democracy everyone is entitled to opinion they too can have their own and people have to respect it. That's why necookie parties exist in USA. No one has balls to put an end to that and tell them their opinion is shit.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 05:16:14 pm
no rules requesting to stop the forum spam is my greatest achievement in this thread
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 28, 2012, 05:17:23 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 05:24:13 pm
Piss off back to PM's i swear i had a rant at you for arguing with Ujin publicly, makes you seem like a arrogant lil prick.....get back on topic of the banner i dont give a damn about political parties in the US, if i did id have studied politics at university ffs

Discussion about banner is dead, because this isn't the first time people protest against Perkunas Guard banner. Court already decided that banner is fine.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 05:24:55 pm
maybe you could have sent leshma a pm since we don't give a shit about you guys hating each other
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Leshma on December 28, 2012, 05:26:06 pm
I don't like to answer PMs :oops:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: highglandeur on December 28, 2012, 05:29:25 pm
I don't like to answer PMs :oops:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Nazurdin on December 28, 2012, 07:21:33 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Boerenlater on December 28, 2012, 11:43:06 pm
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Rage_Guy on December 29, 2012, 12:01:15 am
Cute Puppy!
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Anal Bleeding on December 29, 2012, 12:10:25 am
the swaztika is a symbol of peace and harmony.
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Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Earthdforce on December 30, 2012, 09:56:40 am
Is this the one you have a problem with?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877

If that's the case, you are kinda grasping at straws.
...that's MY clan..
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Havoco on December 31, 2012, 12:22:47 am
WHAT!!! WHAT!!!! A cute puppy BANNER. I HATE cute puppies. BAN THE cute puppy.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Meow on December 31, 2012, 12:59:28 pm
End of the year banner purge done - no I did not remove the cute puppy but mostly comic/anime, photos, cheesy and gimmicky stuff.
Photoshop effects or way too sharp images to fit a banner were ignored for now, some banners did not load so there might still be some that are unfitting.

No banner slot was deleted, just reset to default.
People who keep uploading obviously unfitting, offensive or nsfw stuff will have their banner slot deleted at some point so they need to get a new one to have an exclusive banner again.

Happy new year everyone, enjoy the night.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oralroberts on December 31, 2012, 01:11:29 pm
You don't remove a fuckin dog but you remove our banner?  ignorance must be bliss
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Miwiw on December 31, 2012, 01:13:16 pm
link it @ roberts? Also the murder boner is still in, a funny banner tho.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 31, 2012, 01:20:26 pm
You don't remove a fuckin dog but you remove our banner?  ignorance must be bliss
i so want to -1 this, but when i look at his renown bar :( poor guy
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oralroberts on December 31, 2012, 01:23:33 pm
Yea cause Forum status is life.  I don't troll around the forum's looking to post on anything and everything that has been said.  You sir, should feel ashamed of yourself for making such a comment.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 31, 2012, 01:27:59 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=877

the original name of this thread was: 'seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a swast!ka banner'
after this thread, a new forum censor was introduced

cute puppy =  swast!ka
albert einstein = adoIph h!tler
chocolate chip cookie = naz!

Yea cause Forum status is life.  I don't troll around the forum's looking to post on anything and everything that has been said.  You sir, should feel ashamed of yourself for making such a comment.

edit: -1 deserved
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oralroberts on December 31, 2012, 01:34:24 pm
Damn!  What will I ever do with my life now?  MY E-POPULARITY IN FORUMS IS TARNISHED! 
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 31, 2012, 01:40:38 pm
as long as you understand the true meaning of cute puppies, im alright with that
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: oralroberts on December 31, 2012, 01:46:29 pm
Of course. lol.  It's all over this post anyways.  I just seen that our banner got nuked so just lookin for a place to bitch. 
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: PhantomZero on December 31, 2012, 07:42:27 pm
It took me almost the entire full page to realize that someone had edited everything to chocolate chip cookies and cute puppies. Who would get upset a cute puppy banner?   :lol:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on December 31, 2012, 08:42:45 pm
Join the club, I just read through every page to find that out  :lol:  :oops:
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Tuonela on December 31, 2012, 09:03:59 pm
cute puppy =  swast!ka
albert einstein = adoIph h!tler
chocolate chip cookie = naz!

Aryan becomes gorilla apparently.
Title: Re: seems pretty fucked up a clan can have a cute puppy banner
Post by: Havoco on January 01, 2013, 05:24:02 am
gorilla master race