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Title: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Osiris on December 23, 2012, 03:44:11 am
following on from a discussion between shema and a few of us on eu1 late at night i began to wonder what other people like/dislike about crpg.

To me its still the same thing that drew me to crpg :D

The variety. The ability to pick any build and any armour/weapon combos that i feel like, In battles i dont know for sure what build the other guy has, i dont know how fast he will swing or how much damage it would do. That is what i get bored of in native. here everyone you meet can be different. high level/low level, high str/high agi etc.


what i dislike was the lance nerfs for cav (although i can see why cav needed to be nerfed in crpg) the fact that cav cant really duel each other much or take on aware good players.


I do enjoy native dueling i must admit but in native battles i get bored after a while, the one thing that annoys me most in crpg however is the egotistical view of the majority of 2h that warband was made for them and everyone else should gtfo of their way and let them compete in a long series of duels :D

some other nice changes for me = removal of crushthrough for morningstar/barmace and removal of polestagger. these are fine in native but in crpg where people will abuse builds and weapons then some things have to be removed. its just how it is :D


(PS if this post is confusing and rambling its late and ive been drinking ^^)
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Leshma on December 23, 2012, 03:54:59 am
Many people won't like what I'm going to say, but I don't like any of the changes they did to core mechanics.

Don't get me wrong, ideas were great but implementations created more issues than positive results.

I'm talking about:
1. already mentioned lance angle nerf
2. glancing change
3. weapons getting stuck on building and teammates
4. shield forcefield nerf
5. changes to certain weapons (CT removal, pikes)
6. infamous turn nerf

I'm pretty sure there is a thing or two they did which I can't remember atm. In all of those cases there is more negative stuff about them than actually good stuff.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Vibe on December 23, 2012, 04:00:45 am
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Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 23, 2012, 04:32:55 am
I dislike all the grinding elements.
Teeth 1+ this.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Casimir on December 23, 2012, 04:45:21 am
i dislike the c and the r and the pg.

i like turtles.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on December 23, 2012, 05:05:13 am
Like the most? c-rpg.
Dislike the most? c-rpg.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Araxiel on December 23, 2012, 05:09:46 am
I really dislike weapons get stuck to your teammates when you swing. Why would you even change game defaults in to something like this?
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Hoppster on December 23, 2012, 05:12:43 am
i hate this strat pause when i actually get a week off work!!
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: obitus on December 23, 2012, 06:03:29 am
Like : Stabbin noobs
Dislike : Bad hit registry
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Shaksie on December 23, 2012, 06:06:33 am
Like: Gameplay
Dislike: Low production value and content
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on December 23, 2012, 06:22:19 am
Like: The combination of small community size and high character customization. Sometimes you don't know the strength and speed of your opponent, sometimes you KNOW that green guy or the girl with flowers in her hair is gonna mess your shit up. There are plenty of regulars to categorize into shit/quality dueling material/RUN AWAY categories, but the playerbase is not stagnant. There are plenty of newcomers to suprise you! I also love being in a voice chat server during a close strat battle. Everyone fights in formation, every charge and volley of arrows feels so intense.

Dislike: Spawning into a whirling tornado of enemy cavalry on a battle server. That makes me want to quit out of M&B and go play something else for an hour.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Rumblood on December 23, 2012, 06:38:41 am
Like: The real time strategy element of the fights.
Dislike: When it isn't real time for both parties.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Christo on December 23, 2012, 06:52:50 am
Multiplier system.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Artmarius on December 23, 2012, 07:45:19 am
iN da  all damn mode , tHeRe is NoWhere can't find...   :?

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Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Miley on December 23, 2012, 08:41:16 am
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Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Panos on December 23, 2012, 08:45:54 am
I like the fact that you can roleplay (from a Templar to a Chinese clan)
I like the fact that you can actually see crazy things at the servers (either that is a 1vX enemies or a peasant lolkill against a tincan)

I don`t like 2h kuyak+warmask+agibuild+plateboots+hgauntlets lolstabbers who think that they are good players because they found a weak spot in the game engine
and I also don`t like the fact that any other class is nerfed to the ground but still,2h class is left untouched.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 23, 2012, 08:46:07 am
iN da  all damn mode , tHeRe is NoWhere can't find...   :?

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might add NSFW

edit:

I like the fact that you can roleplay (from a Templar to a Chinese clan)
I like the fact that you can actually see crazy things at the servers (either that is a 1vX enemies or a peasant lolkill against a tincan)

I don`t like 2h kuyak+warmask+agibuild+plateboots+hgauntlets lolstabbers who think that they are good players because they found a weak spot in the game engine
and I also don`t like the fact that any other class is nerfed to the ground but still,2h class is left untouched.
this
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on December 23, 2012, 09:07:14 am
iN da  all damn mode , tHeRe is NoWhere can't find...   :?

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You got balls kid.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Abay on December 23, 2012, 09:52:43 am
1- People who complain everytime when they are dead like ''fuck'', ''damn lag'', ''fu''
2- People who dont care about the team, go and die
3- 2 archers when they x-fire me
4- Rules they are not certain, changable admin by admin
5- People who insult others in public
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Artyem on December 23, 2012, 10:51:59 am
1- People who complain everytime when they are dead like ''fuck'', ''damn lag'', ''fu''
2- People who dont care about the team, go and die
3- 2 archers when they x-fire me
4- Rules they are not certain, changable admin by admin
5- People who insult others in public

every two hand hero ever?
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Kafein on December 23, 2012, 11:53:54 am
Everything I like about cRPG is showcased in this video :


Also, forum ban in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Panos on December 23, 2012, 12:08:03 pm
Everything I like about cRPG is showcased in this video :


Also, forum ban in 3...2...1...


hahaha dafuck did i just watch??
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: LordBerenger on December 23, 2012, 12:10:07 pm
You got balls kid.

Nice and round pair of watermelons.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Teeth on December 23, 2012, 12:53:26 pm
Sentimental wall of text about how the devs are gods and retards at the same time:
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My main point:

Another thing I loved about the game is the sillyness that used to be present. The mod did not take itself that seriously, cRPG was known for trolling and laughter was abundant. Nostalgia glasses probably attribute to this, but surely the mod has taken a more serious approach as well. Silly items, like the Lance of Compensation, the Swords of Cookies and Tears, Looney Toons Axe, and things like crossdressing were all removed. The mod has taken somewhat of a more historical 'realistic' approach. Which is a bad thing in my opinion.

Another change that I think attributed to this mod mentality shift, was the multiplier system. Losing or winning means too much, people get mad if you troll and reduce your teams chances of winning. It is not has lighthearted as the previous system.

Blablabla, more sillyness. I want it. Although probably the mentality of the players has been numbed anyway by playing the game too much and we are probably mostly here because there isn't anything that can fill the void of cRPG.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Angantyr on December 23, 2012, 12:57:56 pm
I like that despite (mainly armored) combat feeling slower and clunkier than it used to, the changes of core mechanics for which I otherwise have some ambivalence has brought about a melee system where held attacks, timings, footwork and longer duels take precedence over crazy lolfeinting (and this is from someone who used to rely a lot on feinting), dragged attacks and animation and hitbox abuse. Improved glancing also makes for much more realistic close quarter fights in armor, even if it in a sense makes the game feel less responsive than what we were used to. Compared to before battles tend to focus more on ganking now than personal skill though and regrettably this does not always come with the added fun factor of team work - but it often does.

The selection of exciting, community-made historical armaments (not counting fantasy lolhammer, disfigured 2h cleaver and all the fantasy leather armors) is great, still remember when there was yet only native stuff, stats seems to have reached a good balance with both pros and cons for armor crutching, same for character builds (despite leaning slightly towards STR), which adds good possibilities for various individual foci. And even if high level ranged kill the average medium armor guy in 2 shots like almost all other classes do it's still entirely possible to play shieldless infantry. Class balance is achieved, otherwise learn to play.

The character page looks great and is far from the black and white spreadsheet it once was, and beyond aesthetics there's so much more there now, and Strat has grown from humble beginnings to really impressive heights.

The community is generally a good bunch of people (the ever-occuring circle wank and popularity contests between hormonal young boys aside) with a nice core of pretty mature people with usually sensible opinions (even the occasional humanism in the off-topic), marred though by the extreme lobbyism that many regrettably pursue here.
cRPG moderators also do a good job allowing for much freer discussion fora than in most game communities, and the average skill level has also risen to a good standard, with more interesting fights than ever.

Add to that the numerous nice things like the expansive WSE and the many new options it brings and will bring apparently, and invaluable fixes such as ground wep collision and corpse dam soak and finally a speed reduction of great swords allowing for the first time in WB history for medium tier 2handers to come more into their right, and the biggest swords to be more specialized support stabbers as they were historically. And +1 for voice command system, the voices continues to be hilarious.

And though I truly hate the grind elements, never played a game with grind except for this, I like the concept of heirlooms (which adds a feeling of 'belonging' to an item) and upkeep (adding the factor of wealth, something else you can earn besides xp and to a degree balancing people's equipment choices). But though the low-level server is good fun and a good idea I wish levels 25-30 wouldn't take so long; the idea of competing on unequal footing is just a nuisance.

Now just remove free WPF (0 WM builds are completely viable currently), adjust the turn rate nerf, bring back a limited number of ladders in siege (because they are fun and dynamic only they were were overused and unbalanced the maps), harder and more complex lancing and a few other things.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: highglandeur on December 23, 2012, 06:44:37 pm
i like to press S and spam
i don't like panos
i like bumping
i like the arrow rain
i like to believe i am a crossbow pro
i like to feel i have so many brothers
i don't like friends
i like blocking with my shield and attacking with rantrex' macro
i like spawnrape and backstab
i like making other people angry and feel strong for a change
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Artyem on December 24, 2012, 08:41:41 am
I don't like two hand heroes
I like one hand heroes
I don't like glaive spammers
I don't like Kuyak
I like dragons
I like vampires
I like Romania
I like the Langes Messer
I like the Flamberge
I like the German Poleaxe

I like that cRPG brought further originality to an already original game idea, unfortunately the sense of originality is slowly going away as more and more people copy classes and the game is becoming dough to the community's cookie cutter.  Best way to win?  +3 armor, +3 2h sword at level 35 21/21 build.  You won't lose.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: masasa on December 24, 2012, 10:32:25 am
I like the gameplay. I don't like not being able to change my build without losing half of my XP especially when devs like to change game mechanics that totally change how some builds work. Would allowing more freedom and less penalties to modify your build really harm the mod, make people play less?
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Panos on December 24, 2012, 10:50:39 am
I like the gameplay. I don't like not being able to change my build without losing half of my XP especially when devs like to change game mechanics that totally change how some builds work. Would allowing more freedom and less penalties to modify your build really harm the mod, make people play less?


I don`t like GK`s who spawn rape.  :evil:
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: POOPHAMMER on December 24, 2012, 10:55:33 am
dislike: everything
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: BlackMilk on December 24, 2012, 11:07:24 am
I like the turn rate nerf for melee, best thing that ever happened to the mod for sure made melee combat sooooo much more challenging and fun!!!!
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: isatis on December 24, 2012, 05:21:14 pm
I like the turn rate nerf for melee, best thing that ever happened to the mod for sure made melee combat sooooo much more challenging and fun!!!!

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Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Angantyr on December 24, 2012, 08:39:11 pm
I really like that you can now walk on CTRL instead of running all the time, it looks cool and it can also be used to adjust one's speed while fighting.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Supreme_Leader on December 25, 2012, 01:16:06 am
Dislike: The spinning stab that allows people to stab you point blank with 10 foot spears
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Smoothrich on December 25, 2012, 01:43:36 am
The armory is pretty much the only good addition of the past year.

Everything else has been meaningless or actually detrimental to gameplay.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Drehar on December 25, 2012, 02:35:51 am
I would like to see the 1-31 grind broken up a bit.
By the time I hit 30 I'm usually bored of my build and want to try something else.

To perhaps fix this make 1-31 go faster and soften the effect of loom points. reduce the exp needed from 1-31 by 1/2. While doing this this will cause mudflation of +1 2 and 3s. To prevent this I would like to see intervals of +.5 . Current green blue and purp loot will stay the same stats but some 1/2 steps between them would be added
+.5 yellow
+1 Green
+1.5 orange
+2 Blue
+2.5 red
+3 Purple

Each loom point would add .5 to the gear.  This would add some more flavor to gear as well as let people try more specs and level faster actively spending more points.

more example
Lordly Light Mail and Plate
                      Ruined   Damaged   Battered   Rusty   Regular   Thick     Durable Reinforced  Well Made   Lordly
Body armor   -18                -9   -4            -2              46              +1    +2           +3          +4                +5
Leg armor   -6                -3   -1                -              16              +1           +2           +3           +4               +5
Weight   -   -   -   -   16.5   -   -   -
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on December 25, 2012, 03:19:39 am
Like the people and hate them as well.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 25, 2012, 03:22:03 am
Fucking nice shit to swing around & nice dresses to wear.

Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: jtobiasm on December 25, 2012, 03:31:31 am
Like: The uniqueness of the mod.
Dislike: How much people try in the mod. I can't seem to have a relaxed game without someone calling another person a noob for making the wrong decision or for having fun.
Dislike. The trolls, which is pretty much 40% of the community imo ( I've played it 6 months)
Like. Watching the trolls try to troll but fail. This is basically 100% of the trolls on crpg.

I've never known such a community who try so hard to troll but fail. I don't think in my time playing crpg I can mention 1 troll who stands out as being an effective troll.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Arathian on December 25, 2012, 03:57:20 am
Like: most smooth combat system....ever, really. I love it!
I also like the extreme variety of classes.

Dislike: it might sound weird, but I dislike the fact that I can't pick up some weapons. I am a plated tank, preeeetty sure I can pick up a wooden bow. Sure, my shots would be extremely inaccurate, but that doesn't mean I couldn't pick it up!
I also would like to have a local area chat option. PW mod has it, and it could be useful. Not exactly a dislike...but eh.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Berserkadin on December 25, 2012, 05:05:46 am
Many people won't like what I'm going to say, but I don't like any of the changes they did to core mechanics.

Don't get me wrong, ideas were great but implementations created more issues than positive results.

I'm talking about:
1. already mentioned lance angle nerf
2. glancing change
3. weapons getting stuck on building and teammates
4. shield forcefield nerf
5. changes to certain weapons (CT removal, pikes)
6. infamous turn nerf

I'm pretty sure there is a thing or two they did which I can't remember atm. In all of those cases there is more negative stuff about them than actually good stuff.

Amen to that. Pretty sums it up, "fixes" that did more harm then good.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Kaoklai on December 25, 2012, 05:18:21 am
Like: customization and clan functionality

Dislike: Turnspeed nerf.  It sucks, biggest failure of the devs imo. 
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Tibe on December 25, 2012, 11:22:45 am
Like: The way all the classes play different
        1) Strat is cool.....I quess. Mainly the battles. Also motherfiretrucking catapults. Finally Warband gets catapults and coolio siegebattles, instead of that usual fixed shit like in native mp and sp.
        2) Community - id rather read posts of semi-trollers than a community filled with hardcore 100% serius nerds.
3) Clanfriendlyness - Somehow its pretty awesomesauce how the mod encourages clanplay.

Dislike: 1) Enough god damn nerfs. :evil: Look at the freaking archers now! Suprising they can even move when their bag of arrows weighs more than 4 Greatswords.
2) Duels - ...somehow I always get the feeling they could be made better.
3) Strat - Still not finished enough....

Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Kafein on December 25, 2012, 12:51:15 pm
I like people that don't like themselves.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Cyber on December 25, 2012, 01:27:22 pm
I like the ability to fully customize your character, i dislike most of the changes to the combat system and the need for grind (character progression)
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: tizzango on December 25, 2012, 02:09:14 pm
Like: The amount of new players I see every game.
         The combat
         Character customization
       
Dislike: The fact these new players are 'trolled' when they ask for help.
             Being bumped then slashed, shot or bumped again.
             




Edit:: Thank you Elmuri :D
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Elmuri on December 25, 2012, 02:24:37 pm
The in-game chat/kill-death message thing.


If you were to give players an option to remove that little wall of text in the bottom left, I reckon it could make the game more immersive for some. In addition to Ctrl+Shift+M, you could have Ctrl+Shift+(insert key here), which would remove the thing :)
It's in options, "report casualties" or something like that, also Ctrl+H takes all UI away.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: PanPan on December 25, 2012, 02:36:37 pm
to much cav. kinda unbalanced teams sometimes for example all Ranged in one team or all cav in one team :(
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Lannistark on May 20, 2014, 04:50:11 pm
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Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 20, 2014, 05:09:47 pm
Quote from: Joseph Porta
Fucking nice shit to swing around & nice dresses to wear.

Yup, nothing changed.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Lannistark on May 20, 2014, 09:42:56 pm
I love being able to personalize my char, Long Hafted Dildos, Khuyak my old friends, I like the QQ, the spam complaints, the flame threads, EU3, Fapocalypse...

Them feels...
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Fredom on May 20, 2014, 09:56:30 pm
Dislike everything, that's the point why this game kept me playing for 3-4 years. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Grumbs on May 20, 2014, 10:08:01 pm
Like:

Lots of teamwork (not even joking, its really good for a pub on battle at least)
Voice commands
Melee combat gameplay
Ugly faces
All the different class combinations
Active devs with new content quite regularly
Map variety that require different tactics keeps it fresh and fun

Dislike:

Rain
cRPG metagame is forcing people to go high levels and stop retiring. It gets harder for people who do retire. (Nerf high level/buff low level)
Ranged with good melee ability. Jack of all trades that don't sacrifice much for their ranged ability
Lack of depth in ranged mechanics
Cav bumps
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: the real god emperor on May 20, 2014, 11:13:23 pm
Only thing I hate is people who keeps fighting on walls to be at the top of the scoreboard when you shout like FLAG 1384723746 times. If any of them are reading this, fuck you, sg.
Title: Re: What do you like/dislike most about crpg?
Post by: Porkthegreat on May 21, 2014, 02:01:47 am
tazzango - Like: The amount of new players I see every game.
         The combat
         Character customization
       
Dislike: The fact these new players are 'trolled' when they ask for help.
             Being bumped then slashed, shot or bumped again.
             

I hate the shitty NA community.  It is not noob friendly.  People need to grow up or go play a mod that's dead   >. >