15/21 is good for steel pick?
15/21 is good for steel pick?Best build for steel pick (my build :wink:) at lvl 30:
24/15
5 IF
8 PS
5 Shield
5 Ath
0 WM
Better than 21/15. You lose only one hit point and get one more PS. You don't need WM as a shielder. 21/18 is also very good.
I'm minusing this post not to be a dick but because I believe it's false information. You aren't taking into account the damage bonus that the 5 WM of the 21/15 build provides.
Ultimately, the 24/15 build provides very slightly more damage than 21/15, at the cost of a slightly slower swing speed and a very slightly smaller hp pool. I personally prefer 21/15 as a level 30 build, however if you think you're going to go above level 30 24/15 might be better because it has more room for you to grow into.
Really though they are both good builds and there is very little different between them.
Level 35
61 HP
24 Strength
21 Agility
1 IF
8 PS
5 Shield
7 Ath
5 WM
152 1hand
Decent HP, pretty sturdy shield, hits like a truck, runs fairly fast. Good luck buddy.
Any information about the amount of extra damage you get from the 5 WM? I am sure it is quite small.7 PS 148 WPF - Military Cleaver
Edit: According to the Game mechanics mega thread 10 wpf equals 1,5% damage. 5 WM will give you about 35 additional points which means a little bit more than 5%. The additional strength will also give you more damage (1 damage per 5 strength). So you lose about 3% of damage with the 21/15 build. The small increase in attack speed won't really make a difference with the Military Cleaver because it is too slow already. I still prefer 3% more damage over 1 hit point.
15 agility should be enough for Military Cleaver if you use medium armor. It all depends on the equipment you are going to use. I still prefer having atleast 6 athletics.
7 PS 148 WPF - Military Cleaver
Minimum: 54
Average: 57.5
Maximum: 61
8 PS 110 WPF
Minimum: 54
Average: 57.5
Maximum: 61
No difference at all lol
taken from http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm
Not sure if he will make it to level 35. :wink: Besides that you should better max out your shieldskill instead of WM.
Now we have to ask which one is wrong. The game mechanics thread or the calculator. :mrgreen:
Yeah, probably not but... all the same, that build seems very solid and is one I'm considering. The combo of 8 Powerstrike and 7 Athletics is silly deadly. Shield/WM changed to taste. I had 7 shield skill for awhile and it was awful, the thing hardly ever broke!
For a level 30 build, though, in seriousness, I'd recommend having at least 18 agi/6 ath with the cleaver, so either 18/21 or 21/18 (the difference between 6-7 PS with a 1-hand is pretty minimal, though, so I'd go with the former and get more movement speed).
24/18 @ 31 would be an awesome build (8 PS, 6 Shield, 6 Ath).
Whatever you do, as a shielder your core skills are Powerstrike, Athletics, and of course Shield. Ironflesh, WM, and anything else can be added based on your preference.
Use this calculator instead: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/
Fine fine I might use 18/18 or 21/15 but wich armor I should use with it?
I want to look pretty nice with the Clever :mrgreen:
Well if you're using a fine Rhodok weapon like the Cleaver, you can't go wrong with a Ragged Outfit.Shameless biased plug for ragged outfit! :D
I use a 70 length MW flanged mace on my main. Level 31, 21/15 with some throwing. I do not tend to have a problem with closing the range, and my weapon is damned short. This could have something to do with fighting at least 2 enemies at once most times, heh.
i thought everyone was talking about this cleaver:
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Go 12/24 like a kinnnngrimmmmmmmm
I think kinngrimm is actualy 12/32 ...12/24 was his 30 lvl build. right now i think he is 12/30 , make some calculation with 12/32 it will be crap build even at 35 lvl.