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Title: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Falka on November 14, 2012, 11:46:41 pm
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Elegant poleaxe needs some love! I have just bought +3 elegant poleaxe, so pls, buff it!  :wink: But seriously, why is it so underpowered? It's even worse than side sword  :wink:

Ok, I have sold it, now you can nerf it to hell :P
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Grumbs on November 15, 2012, 12:00:54 am
Its pretty expensive for what you get. Should really be the longer one that does less damage.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 15, 2012, 12:06:11 am
93 speed 30ish blunt damage, seems pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Falka on November 15, 2012, 12:09:17 am
93 speed 30ish blunt damage, seems pretty good to me.
You mean in secondary mode?
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 15, 2012, 12:11:43 am
You mean in secondary mode?

yeah, it was just buffed in the recent patch. It is basically a balanced long hafted spiked mace, albeit much more expensive.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Kafein on November 15, 2012, 12:23:06 am
Why the fuck do people always reverse things when speaking about polearms.

The elegant poleaxe is not UP, it's all the 8 high tier polearms except the bec that are OP, making the elegant poleaxe look weak.

And if the normal stats are not OP enough, use the secondary mode.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Grumbs on November 15, 2012, 12:30:43 am
OP compared to what? Other polearms? Buff underperformers rather than make polearms even more nerfed
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Kafein on November 15, 2012, 12:47:29 am
OP compared to what? Other polearms? Buff underperformers rather than make polearms even more nerfed

OP compared to other polearms and certainly to all possible melee weapons when you see what you get with the alt modes (knockdown + badass blunt damage).

All these weapons except the bec are way too long to be that fast. More precisely, they are way too long and unbalanced not to have the unbalanced tag attached to all of them, except the bec.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 15, 2012, 01:00:50 am
Polearms have ridiculous stats, and two handers have ridiculous animations, considering according to the statistics they are both neck-in-neck with each other for total percentage of damage dealt I really don't see polearms nor two handers OP, since, well... They are both ridiculous.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Rebelyell on November 15, 2012, 01:08:50 am
Why the fuck do people always reverse things when speaking about polearms.

The elegant poleaxe is not UP, it's all the 8 high tier polearms except the bec that are OP, making the elegant poleaxe look weak.

And if the normal stats are not OP enough, use the secondary mode.
bec UP?
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if not that then all polearmers are lazy cunts and they want to use long spammy gayform of gleive....
bec is soo  good sooo strong on NA they know power of that weapon
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Piok on November 15, 2012, 12:45:43 pm
Buff all poleaxes(bardiche in) I like more to fight them rather then pikemy old friends(hoplites in).
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Largg on November 15, 2012, 01:35:46 pm
Try the secondary mode, it kicks ass. 33b on +3 elegant deals more damage to the average kuyak clubber than the normal cut mode. Plus you get the knockdown and less glance chance.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 16, 2012, 05:04:45 pm
Elegant poleaxe is fine...has 93 speed...

I don't know why anyone would use the poleaxe over a long bardiche though...if anything needs a buff it's the poleaxe (and maybe some of the other higher tier poleaxes).

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Basically the same length, same speed, 5 less cut on the poleaxe, but a lot more pierce.  That's worth almost 3 times as much as a long bardiche?  Or maybe my favorite poleaxe (the long bardiche) is just OP...queue up the QQ.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Gurnisson on November 16, 2012, 05:05:57 pm
13 pierce and the ability to rear horses. I like both myself though
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Piok on November 16, 2012, 05:24:46 pm
And its still polearm instastab which is nasty.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Pentecost on November 16, 2012, 05:28:15 pm
I don't know why anyone would use the poleaxe over a long bardiche though...if anything needs a buff it's the poleaxe (and maybe some of the other higher tier poleaxes).

The normal Poleaxe can rear horses. The Long Bardiche cannot.
The normal Poleaxe has one of the best thrusts out of all polearms. The Long Bardiche has a comparatively weak thrust.
The normal Poleaxe has, as of this patch, a secondary mode that is quite good. The Long Bardiche has no secondary mode.
The normal Poleaxe is quite expensive to use constantly, especially if you like wearing heavier armors. The Long Bardiche is very cheap for what it brings to the table, and you should make quite a bit of money using it with anything other than a tincan loadout.


The last point is why I personally use the Long Bardiche over any of the poleaxes when I play my polearm character, but that does not mean that the normal Poleaxe is weak.

It is the only weapon in the game that can simultaneously rear horses, knockdown targets, and break shields with ease. It definitely does not need any buffs, although I wouldn't nerf it either considering it no longer has polestagger, isn't an especially good 1v1 weapon, has a high upkeep, and doesn't do any of the things it does better than weapons specifically geared at rearing horses, knocking down targets, or breaking shields. It's a jack-of-all-trades utility weapon, which is what it should be.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 16, 2012, 05:31:16 pm
So it only has the better stab?  Being able to rear horses is nice too, but not for the price, and the 5 less cut.  Long Bardiche is better than the german poleaxe IMO as well, and likely the elegant poleaxe.  But that's just my opinion (and I'm guessing most other people who look at the poleaxes for a weapon).
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 16, 2012, 07:20:43 pm
The shot-gun stab that the Poleaxe boasts along with the ability to rear horses and the knockdown blunt alt-mode makes it a superior general-versatility support weapon in a small squad as well as an extremely deadly dueling weapon. The Long Bardiche on the other hand is more economical due to the cost and a superior weapon for general battle with large squads due to the obnoxiously high damage for the swing which can capitalize on right-swinging and overheading distracted targets. Just my opinion though.


Long Bardiche is probably the best choice for most users, I just prefer the poleaxe as it is better for up-close-and-personal fighting due to that stab (That much pierce is not to be underestimated, you can OS almost anyone with a proper stab to the face), as well as my disliking of all things cavalry, and the fact that the secondary mode has a stupid amount of blunt damage and knockdown for such a long and fast weapon (again, marvelous for duels). If you don't use stabs very often though, the Poleaxe will obviously be lackluster.


Regardless, the Elegant Poleaxe is lackluster in my opinion.
Title: Re: Buff elegant poleaxe!
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on November 18, 2012, 11:34:55 am
and the fact that the secondary mode has a stupid amount of blunt damage and knockdown for such a long and fast weapon (again, marvelous for duels).

This.

Maybe last patch before the alt mode got buffed the long bardiche could of done with a little nerf to make the increased gold cost of the poleaxe feel more worth it, but right now the secondary mode of the poleaxe is just insanely OP.