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Title: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 05:33:06 am
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The Teutonic Knights and the Coalition are now in Union
The Teutonic Knights and the Coalition have declared an Alliance.
No aggression will be shown to either side from one-another.
Both parties promise Open Borders in all NA Territories and safe-passage.
Both parties promise Trading Rights in all NA Territories.
Both parties promise Full Roster Support whenever possible, and to help and aid one another
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Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Smoothrich on November 01, 2012, 05:42:33 am
bad idea teutonic knights lmao
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on November 01, 2012, 07:42:41 am
Jesus Smoothrich I really wish I could upvote you right now but I simply can't figure out these shittastic forums.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 08:27:10 am
Why am I agreeing with Smoothrich so much lately? The world is turning upside down.

I think it's confusing how three people declare war on KUTT, and then Teutonics leave them...

Three people declare war on Coalition.. Teutonic ally them.

I fail to see the logic.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 09:40:31 am
I read this declaration.


AHA! By reading this topic and acknowledging the contents you are hereby acknowledging my existence!


Accept my duel you coward!
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Havoco on November 01, 2012, 09:43:23 am
Teutonic=evil RP now too?

Wondering since most of them have the darth tag..
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 09:48:41 am
Teutonic=evil RP now too?


Well if they are going off of the historical knights of Saint Mary and the Teutonic States, then they are exactly the sort of fellows that we Coalition (and Fallen) can respect (skilled, fearsome, ruthless and steadfast), and it is also fitting considering we have some soldiers of the Holy Roman Empire among us. Regardless, Hochmeister Darth Wesley is a reasonable fellow and a fine soldier on the battlefield that I trust (few finer in my opinion) with well-disciplined and skilled knights, I don't think I could ask for any better.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Matey on November 01, 2012, 09:56:04 am
Well if any witches or wizards come at you again you can send the teutonics to burn down some villages and go genociding any pagans around until the magical folk leave you alone.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 10:44:09 am
Well if any witches or wizards come at you again you can send the teutonics to burn down some villages and go genociding any pagans around until the magical folk leave you alone.

BOAT CLAN are an atheist clan so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Smiling Daemon on November 01, 2012, 03:51:59 pm
Well if any witches or wizards come at you again you can send the teutonics to burn down some villages and go genociding any pagans around until the magical folk leave you alone.

Until those witches and wizards come with flying carpets  :lol:
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Digglez on November 01, 2012, 05:43:15 pm
Why am I agreeing with Smoothrich so much lately? The world is turning upside down.

I think it's confusing how three people declare war on KUTT, and then Teutonics leave them...

Three people declare war on Coalition.. Teutonic ally them.

I fail to see the logic.

Might be because Fallen will actually put up a fight instead of fold like a house of cards?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Boss_Awesome on November 01, 2012, 05:49:23 pm
Why am I agreeing with Smoothrich so much lately? The world is turning upside down.

I think it's confusing how three people declare war on KUTT, and then Teutonics leave them...

Three people declare war on Coalition.. Teutonic ally them.

I fail to see the logic.

It's because we're gonna win this fight. 

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/chaos-at-war!/15/
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Gmnotutoo on November 01, 2012, 06:06:08 pm
BOAT CLAN are an atheist clan so it makes sense.

REPENT HERETIC! How dare you speak blasphemy when the Omnipotent Godking has revealed himself to us mortals?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Keshian on November 01, 2012, 06:13:35 pm
The Teutonic Knights and the Coalition have declared an Alliance.
No aggression will be shown to either side from one-another.
Both parties promise Open Borders in all NA Territories and safe-passage.
Both parties promise Trading Rights in all NA Territories.
Both parties promise Full Roster Support whenever possible, and to help and aid one another.


This doesn't sound like an act of war with coalition's enemies as far as a I can tell.  Its a free trade agreement, non-aggression pact, and mercing for each other.  They are not actually contributing troops, gold, equipment or attacking each others' enemies.  Not sure how this is the bad move all of you are saying, since they are at peace with all Coalition's enemies while allowing coalition to do free trade and help with filling the roster of a small faction.

Anyone attackign them would be the same as declaring war on anyone witha  member who mercs against you, which would quickly add up to a huge number of enemies.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 01, 2012, 07:32:37 pm
The Teutonic Knights and the Coalition have declared an Alliance.
No aggression will be shown to either side from one-another.
Both parties promise Open Borders in all NA Territories and safe-passage.
Both parties promise Trading Rights in all NA Territories.
Both parties promise Full Roster Support whenever possible, and to help and aid one another.


This doesn't sound like an act of war with coalition's enemies as far as a I can tell.  Its a free trade agreement, non-aggression pact, and mercing for each other.  They are not actually contributing troops, gold, equipment or attacking each others' enemies.  Not sure how this is the bad move all of you are saying, since they are at peace with all Coalition's enemies while allowing coalition to do free trade and help with filling the roster of a small faction.

Anyone attackign them would be the same as declaring war on anyone witha  member who mercs against you, which would quickly add up to a huge number of enemies.


TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN! This is true, well said Kesh.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 07:49:12 pm
Might be because Fallen will actually put up a fight instead of fold like a house of cards?

Kind of like how NH folded like a house of cards, losing 15 out of 15 matches in a fair scrimmage on NH lands, with NH rules? You guys won't even agree to an armorless rematch since you claim it was because we wore too much armor (mostly lamellar is too much armor?). Sounds like your shit clan needs to look at it's own cards.. or something.

The Teutonic Knights and the Coalition have declared an Alliance.
No aggression will be shown to either side from one-another.
Both parties promise Open Borders in all NA Territories and safe-passage.
Both parties promise Trading Rights in all NA Territories.
Both parties promise Full Roster Support whenever possible, and to help and aid one another.


This doesn't sound like an act of war with coalition's enemies as far as a I can tell.  Its a free trade agreement, non-aggression pact, and mercing for each other.  They are not actually contributing troops, gold, equipment or attacking each others' enemies.  Not sure how this is the bad move all of you are saying, since they are at peace with all Coalition's enemies while allowing coalition to do free trade and help with filling the roster of a small faction.

Anyone attackign them would be the same as declaring war on anyone witha  member who mercs against you, which would quickly add up to a huge number of enemies.

Except that they have immediately attacked Fallen's enemies. I never knew what diarrhea of the mouth met until I started reading most of what you have to contribute to this community Kesh.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Relit on November 01, 2012, 07:56:14 pm
Kind of like how NH folded like a house of cards, losing 15 out of 15 matches in a fair scrimmage on NH lands, with NH rules? You guys won't even agree to an armorless rematch since you claim it was because we wore too much armor (mostly lamellar is too much armor?). Sounds like your shit clan needs to look at it's own cards.. or something.

What little respect I had for you, Tugboat, just flew out the window. What does this even have to do with this discussion? Seriously if you want to shit talk take it to PM's or Steam.

Back to the subject at hand: This is a interesting development, should be fun to watch what happens up there.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 07:58:17 pm
What little respect I had for you, Tugboat, just flew out the window. What does this even have to do with this discussion? Seriously if you want to shit talk take it to PM's or Steam.

Back to the subject at hand: This is a interesting development, should be fun to watch what happens up there.

They were implying we folded like a house of cards, so I pointed out how NH folds far harder and easier than KUTT ever has. Digglez has been talking shit nonstop on KUTT on the forums for weeks now. I'm sorry if he can do and say what he wants, but I can't throw it back at him? Sorry I thought Digglez and the rest of the guys in NH were adults who didn't hold others to a higher standard than they held themselves?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Relit on November 01, 2012, 08:00:47 pm
They were implying we folded like a house of cards, so I pointed out how NH folds far harder and easier than KUTT ever has. Digglez has been talking shit nonstop on KUTT on the forums for weeks now. I'm sorry if he can do and say what he wants, but I can't throw it back at him? Sorry I thought Digglez and the rest of the guys in NH were adults who didn't hold others to a higher standard than they held themselves?

Except that hes adding to the subject being discussed here. While you are bringing up something that happened months ago, for no reason other than to shit talk.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Keshian on November 01, 2012, 08:11:42 pm
Except that they have immediately attacked Fallen's enemies. I never knew what diarrhea of the mouth met until I started reading most of what you have to contribute to this community Kesh.

???.  No they haven't.  They were at war with you guys before this was ever announced and they have not attacked or delared war on chaos, pale horsemen, or occitan.  Hell, I haven't even seen a single post by Teutons in this thread.  Stop acting so butthurt.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Garem on November 01, 2012, 08:25:50 pm
Let's talk about our positions on global climate change and its impact on sub-Saharan Africa. This would be about as relevant as the current conversation, and a hell of a lot more productive.

Back on point, good on ya, Teutons.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Turboflex on November 01, 2012, 08:34:30 pm
lol you are an idiot tugboat, well reflected in you getting carved up like a pumpkin. only a complete turd would keep bringing up some kind of informal prac scrim from 3 months ago like it was championship of the universe, all while his clan is sinking embarrassingly fast barely into the beginning of a strat round.

you seriously wonder why people are ditching you and going after you?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 08:48:15 pm
???.  No they haven't.  They were at war with you guys before this was ever announced and they have not attacked or delared war on chaos, pale horsemen, or occitan.  Hell, I haven't even seen a single post by Teutons in this thread.  Stop acting so butthurt.

Teutonics weren't at war with us before they allied Fallen.

lol you are an idiot tugboat, well reflected in you getting carved up like a pumpkin. only a complete turd would keep bringing up some kind of informal prac scrim from 3 months ago like it was championship of the universe, all while his clan is sinking embarrassingly fast barely into the beginning of a strat round.

you seriously wonder why people are ditching you and going after you?

We don't bring it up like it was the championship of the universe. NH is the one who keeps bringing it up and trying to make it seem like we cheat. I only mention it because Diggles seems to be obsessed with it.

People are ditching us and going after us, because we are being torn apart by forces that far overwhelm ours. They want to cut a deal for survival. Makes sense. The rest are being opportunistic, which also makes sense.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Keshian on November 01, 2012, 08:58:23 pm
Teutonics weren't at war with us before they allied Fallen.


Uhhhh, no.  They were at war with you when they told you they were going with FCC on your teamspeak and you banned them.  The merc/trade agreement with Fallen happened 2 days later.  No wars have been declared by Teutons since this merc/trade agreement was announced, hell no Teuton has even posted since then.  So go make up some more shit Tugboat.

P.S.  They started marching that night you banned them.  Not sure where you are connecting the fallena nd you here, no connection to be amde.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 09:01:28 pm
Uhhhh, no.  They were at war with you when they told you they were going with FCC on your teamspeak and you banned them.  The merc/trade agreement with Fallen happened 2 days later.

Fair point I suppose, although they didn't move out until they allied Fallen, hence my confusion.

Are fallen NA and FCC allied? or just the "enemy of my enemy" unspoken pact?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tanken on November 01, 2012, 09:06:11 pm
Ugh, just going to start trying to stay out of forum stuff. There is no winning involved in arguing cases or points, and clans not even involved feel the need to jump in and throw dirt in your face while you're already having a mouth full of it.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 09:09:04 pm
Are fallen NA and FCC allied? or just the "enemy of my enemy" unspoken pact?

One of these days people will stop calling the Coalition "Fallen" or the FCC "BRD."
Carry on though.

Ugh, just going to start trying to stay out of forum stuff. There is no winning involved in arguing cases or points, and clans not even involved feel the need to jump in and throw dirt in your face while you're already having a mouth full of it.
Now this is possibly the wisest thing I've seen all day.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Digglez on November 01, 2012, 09:14:39 pm
Teutonics weren't at war with us before they allied Fallen.

We don't bring it up like it was the championship of the universe. NH is the one who keeps bringing it up and trying to make it seem like we cheat. I only mention it because Diggles seems to be obsessed with it.

We're all laughing at how horribly unorganized you are for the faction that claimed they were going to conquer everyone in strat.  You've won what, 1 entire battle out of 20+?  2 if you count FCC not being able to login to fight back.

Go ahead and keep clinging to a scrimmage you whooped us in, laughs on you.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lordark on November 01, 2012, 09:17:37 pm
Might be because Fallen will actually put up a fight instead of fold like a house of cards?

Its hard to fight war on strat when everyone in NA has decided almost individually to not fight for Hosp or Kutt. Even Kinsie kutt wont fight for kutt because of her love for FCC.

When no 1 will fight for your side because of a deep seated hatred for your clan what else can you do but pray?
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Havoco on November 01, 2012, 09:18:49 pm
General diplomacy conduct: one diplomacy post followed by 2 pages of shit talking.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Keshian on November 01, 2012, 09:22:51 pm
Its hard to fight war on strat when everyone in NA has decided almost individually to not fight for Hosp or Kutt. Even Kinsie kutt wont fight for kutt because of her love for FCC.

When no 1 will fight for your side because of a deep seated hatred for your clan what else can you do but pray?

Its Kinzie with a z by the way.  And don't bring her into this.  You guys failed diplomatically is the main reason for lack of mercs - though you usually have full rosters as long as you have gear.  10-12 Occitan, 8-10 Hospitallers, 7-9 KUTT, 3-6 Astralis, 5-8 Chevalieres in most fights adds up to 33-45 just your main clans and then you get the skilled randoms that complete it.  Just look at our roster sometime, we have to aska round and get people from 10 different clans and people that don't play on the strategus map.  You actually have an easier time filling rosters becasue you have more active players in your combined clans.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 01, 2012, 09:23:43 pm
lol you are an idiot tugboat, well reflected in you getting carved up like a pumpkin. only a complete turd would keep bringing up some kind of informal prac scrim from 3 months ago like it was championship of the universe, all while his clan is sinking embarrassingly fast barely into the beginning of a strat round.

you seriously wonder why people are ditching you and going after you?

I know you probably don't keep up with it, but this time last year, nocti was doing the same thing as they were getting taken down when discussing mercs.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 09:26:04 pm
I know you probably don't keep up with it, but this time last year, nocti was doing the same thing as they were getting taken down when discussing mercs.


Mercs were killing two to three times their number though, in all fairness, so they certainly went down swing hard.


Regardless, I do hope that everyone veers back on topic, or starts their own thread, thank you!
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 01, 2012, 09:29:01 pm

Mercs were killing two to three times their number though, in all fairness, so they certainly went down swing hard.


Regardless, I do hope that everyone veers back on topic, or starts their own thread, thank you!

I was referencing the fact that Kutt keeps bringing up their scrimmage against NH. Mercs did much the same against the clan that was beating them, they kept referencing the fact that they beat them in the Fallen tournament. I don't remember the exact thread but it was a fun one. Just before the Notci multi account thread. I Don't think they went down 'hard' though If i remember it was a 1:1 KDR at the end when they were wiped.

I wanna see more blood. All the good battles, they are not there. Sad face. More wars!
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Digglez on November 01, 2012, 09:38:53 pm
When no 1 will fight for your side because of a deep seated hatred for your clan what else can you do but pray?

Pay mercenaries. If they dont want strat gold then pay'em with cRPG gold.  You'd think with 50 or so members you'd be able to throw together some scratch.  If you have members that dont wanna pitch in, maybe you need to review their membership status.  I sure wouldnt be in a clan with people who WONT pitch in for the overall success, those are called leaches.

Also not allying yourself with biggest douchebags in NA would have helped.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tanken on November 01, 2012, 09:41:58 pm
Also not allying yourself with biggest douchebags in NA would have helped.

Now you're just being rude. Don't be rude Digglez.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: TugBoat on November 01, 2012, 09:43:03 pm
Pay mercenaries. If they dont want strat gold then pay'em with cRPG gold.  You'd think with 50 or so members you'd be able to throw together some scratch.  If you have members that dont wanna pitch in, maybe you need to review their membership status.  I sure wouldnt be in a clan with people who WONT pitch in for the overall success, those are called leaches.

Also not allying yourself with biggest douchebags in NA would have helped.

C'mon Digglez! I was with you right until the end! ALMOST the first time I agreed with you! So close.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lordark on November 01, 2012, 10:23:33 pm
we should have not attacked any 1 and just sit up and turtled.

Would have delayed strat for like another month and half but heck no 1 cares about fun battles with even sides, no,  just winning and shit talking.

Inset Charlie SHeen winning pic here.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Arjay on November 01, 2012, 10:25:16 pm
bad idea teutonic knights lmao

Just saying.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Boss_Awesome on November 01, 2012, 10:27:31 pm
Just saying.

Doing the opposite of whatever Smoothrich suggests is a good guiding principle for anyone.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 01, 2012, 10:39:58 pm
no 1 cares about fun battles with even sides, no,  just winning and shit talking.
This is probably the last thread to get sympathy for that considering I see both sides doing that equally in this grand great war, yourself included with a few of your past posts  :|
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 02, 2012, 12:14:06 am
This is an outrage! You fools that represent Hospitaller and KUTT have no right to shit talk in this post. You are nothing but buffoons. Keep your comments to yourself or in another post. Fallen and the Teutonic Knights have become "Allies"
because we respect Tears. The "King" supported us before strat went down. I appreciate NH and FCC for standing up to the useless comments from our haters. Further more we decided to declare war on KUTT after Tugboat was heart broken that we left(banned from ts). That being said I hope to see some support for our action to the great alliance Fallen.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Boss_Awesome on November 02, 2012, 12:17:36 am
This is an outrage! The Teutonics have finally completed their goal to become ruthless! You fools that represent Hospitaller and KUTT have no right to shit talk in this post. You are nothing but buffoons. Keep your comments to yourself or in another post. Fallen and the Teutonic Knights have become "Allies"
because we respect Tears. The "King" supported us before strat went down. I appreciate NH and FCC for standing up to the useless comments from our haters. Further more we decided to declare war on KUTT after Tugboat was heart broken that we left(banned from ts). That being said I hope to see some support for our action to the great alliance Fallen.

Great to have you guys with us!  I hope you like killing people. 
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: arowaine on November 02, 2012, 12:47:34 am
Hey good luck to both of you guys just woundering i tougth fallen were  THEME: Evil/Bandits/Outlaws and teutonic were The Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Mary in Jerusalem something weird in this :D. Without joking good luck with your new coalition on Na
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: The_Slim on November 02, 2012, 01:02:50 am
Teutonics, I thought our clans were getting along really well, playing in seige together, rocking X5 for a hot minute.  I did not see this coming, but its whatever good luck in your strategus future.

Hey good luck to both of you guys just woundering i tougth fallen were  THEME: Evil/Bandits/Outlaws and teutonic were The Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Mary in Jerusalem something weird in this :D. Without joking good luck with your new coalition on Na

Well said.

Also Arowaine, please keep me on your merc list for the battle tonight!!  You keep accepting me and then taking me off then accepting again!  I beg of thee! :D
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Tanken on November 02, 2012, 06:14:52 am
Great battle tonight.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Wesleysnipes on November 02, 2012, 06:15:52 am
Great battle tonight.

Yea it was fun!
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: SHinOCk on November 02, 2012, 06:19:28 am
I fucking hate NA3, they need to do something about the lag there
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 02, 2012, 02:45:28 pm
I fucking hate NA3, they need to do something about the lag there

that why you had a 1:1 ratio? I do agree though, NA sucks. I had way to many TKs that battle.(i think 3-4) so i had a way shittier KD that I should have. Least my score was in the top section.
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Aderyn on November 02, 2012, 03:26:41 pm
can someone link the battle for us that didn't go? =)
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 02, 2012, 03:27:01 pm
can someone link the battle for us that didn't go? =)

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1142
Title: Re: Alliance between the Teutonic Knights and Coalition
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 02, 2012, 06:59:55 pm
that why you had a 1:1 ratio? I do agree though, NA sucks. I had way to many TKs that battle.(i think 3-4) so i had a way shittier KD that I should have. Least my score was in the top section.

Haha I hated that battle. My 6 PD got nerfed, so I would either get 0-1 points per hit. If I accidentally hit a teammate though it was a gurantee'd -3 points. At least I killed Loki and Cyranule, neckbeards.