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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Leshma on October 31, 2012, 02:57:06 pm
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Sorry if there was similar topic few months ago but I have to ask:
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WTF IS THIS!
They were different before, I'm pretty sure Wisby were heavier. What have you done, you silly imbalancers?
Before you say that one point doesn't mean jack shit... yes it does! Give one more armor to leather gloves if one more point doesn't make any difference...
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Sorry if there was similar topic few months ago but I have to ask:
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WTF IS THIS!
They were different before, I'm pretty sure Wisby were heavier. What have you done, you silly imbalancers?
Before you say that one point doesn't mean jack shit... yes it does! Give one more armor to leather gloves if one more point doesn't make any difference...
you just made up an argument they bring up in a fantasy conversation, and countered it by taking something completely different into account.
you are weird.
also: yes, they were .07
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Besides good looks, they are now useless.
GG
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only plate mittens, black and heavy gauntlets aren't useless
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What a lame patch. First my build is completely screwed over, and now my MW mail gauntlets are suddenly completely inferior to the wisby ones... ROLL BACK ROLL BACK ROLL BACK!!!
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they always were inferior? they do look much better tho
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they always were inferior? they do look much better tho
I too have lordly mail gauntlets. They weren't inferior, because wisbies had greater weight, and thus mail gauntlets were in a sort of a weight/protection sweetspot. Considering, that gauntlets have a... x4 weight wpf penalty, iirc, that 0.2 weight does make a significant difference.
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maybe if your an archer and even then its only + 0.8 weight
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The fact of the matter is that Wisbies now offer more protection for the same weight. Fail.
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i am trading wisby gauntlets for mail gauntlets + 90k, check the market.
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mail gauntlets are cheaper
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scale gauntlets got boost too from 0.9 to 0.8
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scale gauntlets got boost too from 0.9 to 0.8
Plate Mittens also dropped .1 weight.
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Am I the only one noticing the 1k difference?
Yeah, yeah, it's not much, but it's there.
When they are both +3 they are 9 and 10 armour btw. I personally prefer the mail gauntlets then. They also fit better with my armour.
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1.35k difference actually. Doesn't mean much. If you're going to use cheap gear, mail mittens are the way to go.
There's also 7 str req vs 9 str. HX can use mail gauntlets...
I agree that mail gauntlets look better but that's matter of a taste.
I think they failed while trying to rebalance gloves.
Lordy leather gloves give +5 body armor for 0 weight
Lordy mail mittens give +8 body armor for 0.3 weight (1.2 wpf weight) +3 +0.3
Lordy mail gauntlets give +9 body armor for 0.5 weight (2.0 wpf weight) +1 +0.2
Lordy wisby gauntlets give +10 body armor for 0.5 weight (2.0 wpf weight) +1
Lordy scale gauntlets give +11 body armor for 0.8 weight (3.2 wpf weight) +1 +0.3
Lordy gauntlets give +12 body armor for 1.0 weight (4.0 wpf weight) +1 +0.2
Lordy plate mittens give +13 body armor for 1.3 weight (5.2 wpf weight) +1 +0.3
Lordy black gauntlets give +14 body armor for 1.5 weight (6.0 wpf weight) +1 +0.2
Lordy heavy gauntlets give +15 body armor for 2.0 weight (9.0 wpf weight) +1 +0.5
Fasader's work is pretty damn obvious here. He's the only one who's grading items based on their looks (his personal taste).
Edit: Sorry my old friendsader, I'll blame cmpx next time :P
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item weights are screwed up because chadz or cmp changed the weight round off on the compiler back to 0.25 instead of 0.1, so all values have been rounded up or down, causing massive unbalance.
i.e: its a bug
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item weights are screwed up because chadz or cmp changed the weight round off on the compiler back to 0.25 instead of 0.1, so all values have been rounded up or down, causing massive unbalance.
i.e: its a bug
fuck this gay earth
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Thanks for clarification, Shik :)
I guess that also means leather gloves will weight 0.1 like they used to before this patch.
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I'm not sure I see the problem. Those Mail Gauntlet stats look fine to me. Are you suggesting that my Red Wisby Gauntlets should be buffed, since their stats are almost identical, save for the small difference in armor and massive difference in price? If so, I agree. Wisby have always been useless except as a fashion choice. They are simply not optimal in any way.
BUFF WISBY GAUNTLETS!