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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Rextard on October 30, 2012, 09:00:25 pm

Title: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Rextard on October 30, 2012, 09:00:25 pm: Szabla is the Polish word for sabre, and it was born from the adoption of curved swords by Poles and Hungarians from eastern invaders, who they'd both had extensive contact with because of Mongol expansion. I'd like to see one or two of them in game. The wiki article details the history pretty well and also discusses general features as well as variant forms. The time frame for seeing true szabli as opposed to recovered eastern predecessors would have been late 1500's, with some of the variants coming later in different parts of the 1600's.

As I have neither the time nor skill to try to make models for a request like this, does anyone like the idea and/or is anyone willing to put in the time to make models for them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szabla

My hope would be for a Karabela (http://pl.all.biz/img/pl/catalog/15404.jpeg) and the Hussar Sabre or Szabla Husarska (http://historicalmarket.com/251-1364-thickbox/szabla-husarska-xvii-w.jpg) but even getting just one in would be nice.
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Kalp on October 30, 2012, 09:04:16 pm: Scimitar
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Rextard on October 30, 2012, 10:11:50 pm: Not same sword, and you can stab with a szabla as their ends are often double bladed. Scimitar is more of a predecessor and general saber, not that you couldn't stab with them at all, but they weren't as well designed for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scimitar lists the szabla and karabela as related to the arabic scimitar.
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Kalp on October 31, 2012, 08:33:07 am: Not the same, but very close. Furthermore the the glory days of Polish saber was a comparatively far from the Middle Ages.

It would be cool to add it, but meh I doubt.
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Rebelyell on October 31, 2012, 02:57:24 pm: Quote from: Rextard on October 30, 2012, 09:00:25 pm
Szabla is the Polish word for sabre, and it was born from the adoption of curved swords by Poles and Hungarians from eastern invaders, who they'd both had extensive contact with because of Mongol expansion. I'd like to see one or two of them in game. The wiki article details the history pretty well and also discusses general features as well as variant forms. The time frame for seeing true szabli as opposed to recovered eastern predecessors would have been late 1500's, with some of the variants coming later in different parts of the 1600's.

As I have neither the time nor skill to try to make models for a request like this, does anyone like the idea and/or is anyone willing to put in the time to make models for them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szabla

My hope would be for a Karabela (http://pl.all.biz/img/pl/catalog/15404.jpeg) and the Hussar Sabre or Szabla Husarska (http://historicalmarket.com/251-1364-thickbox/szabla-husarska-xvii-w.jpg) but even getting just one in would be nice.

to be honest szabla is way superior over scimitar, can thrust but never used for that in crpg animation way,

and model...
+1 anyway
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Bjord on October 31, 2012, 03:03:36 pm: I want to make a Hungarian hussar with szábla!! Oh my god, please add this.

Also, we need new thrust animations for 1h. Or different 1h stab animations for different weapons.
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Rextard on October 31, 2012, 05:15:00 pm: Thanks for the feedback so far guys! Yeah, the stabbing would be an issue...in terms of which stab to include. :twisted: ___ :twisted:

As this video using an american cavalry sabre demonstrates, the sabres can easily stab with a down turned palm or in the upturned supine position as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZWcyga9-Ag&feature=relmfu

Also, cold steel is an awesomo site that does lots of videos for different melee weapons. Theres also a video for a napoleonic sabre from 1830 and a 3 part series outlining basic defense with sabres and cutlass, for those interested.

Quote from: Kalp on October 31, 2012, 08:33:07 am
Not the same, but very close. Furthermore the the glory days of Polish saber was a comparatively far from the Middle Ages.

It would be cool to add it, but meh I doubt.

Good point on the timing Kalp. I've been hangin onto this suggestion for a while, and decided to suggest it when I saw that ranseurs and other late (16th/17th century) polearms were getting put in.
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Teeth on October 31, 2012, 05:23:09 pm: Did you just post a Cold Steel video in a serious manner?

It is very similar to a scimitar, you do not have a model. The only thing that would make it different from a scimitar is a stab, which would require a new animation. What do you expect to happen here?
Title: Re: 1 or 2 types of Szabla as more expensive sabre/shashka counterparts
Post by: Rextard on October 31, 2012, 09:54:03 pm: Only serious in so far as it displayed the range of angles with which you can stab with a saber.

Way I figure it is it'd be like a more curved shashka in terms of animation. Shashka already has stab also.

Anyway, I wasn't expecting anything. I was just putting the idea out there in case someone also wants it to happen, but unlike me has the time and ability to help it along.