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Title: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Mlekce on October 26, 2012, 12:52:33 pm
hello my gear cost without gloves is 23k. when i add heavy gauntlets it goes up to 39k and this gauntlets are eating my gold.
I don't want to sell them because they are so awsome,but i am afraid i will loose all gold i have.
So how much gear cost i can have to still make money?
I tried 33k so far,and i still earned some gold. You tested it over that?
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 26, 2012, 12:54:33 pm
Got 60598 ( I am cav and wearing heavy armour though) and still earning Gold mostly.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Mlekce on October 26, 2012, 12:57:26 pm
Realy? Then you are rolling with x5 all the time. well i don't have that much luck. :(
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Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 26, 2012, 01:10:00 pm
Well, I often get valour, thats the reason I guess.
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Post by: Latvian on October 26, 2012, 01:16:18 pm
sell those gauntlets to me and if u have constant high multi you can easy run around in expensive stuff
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Post by: MB passionately on October 26, 2012, 01:21:50 pm
good question mate

I checked the "statistics" in the player account management screen recently. There, it shows how much xp,gold etc your character received over the last weeks. It needs some notes from yourself though, to know which day you went in with full gear, light gear etc.

Its just a guess,  but I think the more single items you wear the more expensive it gets as the potential for repairs increases.
For example: a shield and a spear cost less upkeep than a shield, a spear AND a an additional 1h weapon etc etc.
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Post by: PhigNewtenz on October 26, 2012, 02:30:23 pm
in the long run

This. 35k is probably safe if you don't:
But, the variance is still very high in the short term. You need to play for many, many hours with the same gear to have a reasonable expectation that it will average out to what the math says should happen. If you can't afford to wait for the long term, then use cheaper gear. Or you can sell a loom point to build up your bank roll.
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Post by: Arrowblood on October 26, 2012, 02:44:20 pm
I use a Longbow and Bodkins and cant loose or gain money. :!:
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Post by: Turboflex on October 26, 2012, 03:57:45 pm
Heavy gauntlets are killing you dude, gonna have to pay up if you wanna wear those, they are incredibly expensive.

Once you get past 35-40k you really needa be scoring above average multiplier (so rolling with a winning clan or getting a lot of valor) to make money.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Phew on October 26, 2012, 04:31:53 pm
My equip cost is 43.5k (3k upkeep max), and I pretty much break even. This is despite using two stacks of Heavy Throwing Axes every round with only 100wpf in throwing, and only playing siege (which is supposedly not as good for making money). I only get Valor about 5-10% of the time.

I need to stop bringing the throwing axes on siege attack, or at least only bring one stack, but I always forget. They rarely come in useful when attacking, unless an archer is kiting me. But man, are they fun on siege defense.
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Post by: oohillac on October 26, 2012, 05:06:20 pm
If you have a fair-sized pool already, and can deal with a bad day here and there, you should be able to break even into the 30k region.
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 26, 2012, 05:32:26 pm
Last gen I wore a haubergeon, kettle helmet, rus cav boots, plate mittens, italian sword, elite cav shield, destrier, and heavy lance and made about 50k on the gen.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Mlekce on October 26, 2012, 06:04:58 pm
well i sold them for 9k cheaper golves. i know i can afford wearing them always.
it is nice to have 60 body armor,but i guess i could get use to live with 57 body armor. :(
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Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 26, 2012, 06:14:48 pm
well i sold them for 9k cheaper golves. i know i can afford wearing them always.
it is nice to have 60 body armor,but i guess i could get use to live with 57 body armor. :(

Yeah, there is a huge gap between hourglass or even plate mittens. I personallly like plate mittens for the look so I use those, but.they are on the expebsive side, more for the look then the arnor/price.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Phew on October 26, 2012, 06:18:18 pm
Good choice. Heavy gauntlets are a luxury (except for pugilists, who require them). Scale Gauntlets are my personal favorite, since they are the highest armor choice before the slope of the armor vs. weight curve increases.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Mlekce on October 26, 2012, 06:43:44 pm
I bought Gilded Hourglass Gauntlets they are cool. I like the look of them and they perfectly fit my parrot armor (archon's) i look sexy in them and 30k gear cost is nothing. :D
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Post by: PhigNewtenz on October 26, 2012, 07:14:24 pm
Trying to figure out what gloves to wear? Check this topic: Optimal Glove Choices (http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner's-help-and-guides/are-you-wearing-the-correct-gloves-(min-maxer-special)/)

Full disclosure: I wrote it.

It can help settle the 'which gloves are best for my build/budget/play-style?' question.

As far as build cost goes, I've usually found that low 40's (roughly 42k) lets an average player break even. You can afford more if you or your banner-mates influence the results enough that you win more than 50% of the time, or if you can get valour. The problem is: you need a pretty significant bankroll to run a break-even build. Eventually the random swings will lead to a string of bad 'luck' which could make you broke. I would probably want at least 100k in the bank before I tried it. If you don't have (or can't afford to lose) that much, then build cheaper.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Sarpton on October 27, 2012, 10:53:20 pm
I like wisby gloves personally the weight/armor is a good combo if I'm worried about WPF for any reason.  Honestly any boots above Rus Cav just seem like throwing money down the toilet for the amount of protection they give.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 28, 2012, 12:52:27 pm
58h 61b 59lArmor
2/4Slots
29,884 goldCost
2,090 goldUpkeep (max)

no problem with gold
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: rAve on October 28, 2012, 01:18:05 pm
gloves get repaired FAAAAAAAAAAAAR more often then anything else, i had to sell my heavy ones cuz practically every round i had to pay 1.1k repairs for them, kinda retarded....
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: PanPan on October 28, 2012, 02:22:23 pm
Lordly Black Lamellar Vest

Leather Gloves                        905 gold
                                                Upkeep (max)
Khergit Leather Boots

I do like 30k gold in a nolifing day.

Obviously no problems with cash.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Teeth on October 29, 2012, 01:46:30 am
I have the mentioned 39k cost equipment and I periodically lose quite some money occasionally, but in the long run I am slowly earning. You need to have a 20k buffer. I do get a lot of valour though, but if you play with a lot of other Byzantines the multiplier should not be that bad anyway.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Phew on November 05, 2012, 06:51:45 pm
Good choice. Heavy gauntlets are a luxury (except for pugilists, who require them). Scale Gauntlets are my personal favorite, since they are the highest armor choice before the slope of the armor vs. weight curve increases.

Since the last patch, it's worth noting that my prior post is no longer valid. Wisby Gauntlets are now the highest armor choice before the slope of the armor vs. weight curve increases. In fact, the slope is zero at Wisby, since they weigh the same as Mail Gauntlets. I dropped from Scale down to Wisby for now, but I am a hybrid 1h/thrower, so hand armor weight matters more to me. If you don't throw/shoot, wear the heaviest gloves you can afford.
Title: Re: max gear cost without loosing gold.
Post by: Crob28 on November 06, 2012, 12:11:46 am
38k total gear cost here

2673 max upkeep, with the heavy hitters being 1114 for my danish and 929 for my armor, either one of those breaking tends to wipe any hope of profit for that round.

Overall I tend to slowly lose gold, barring a good run of x5, but then again I play mostly siege, so longer rounds and more breakage chances  :rolleyes: