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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Osiris on October 21, 2012, 02:20:41 am

Title: Native
Post by: Osiris on October 21, 2012, 02:20:41 am
Following on a little from this thread http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner's-help-and-guides/feint-help/ and the native talk inside it i thought i would make a more on topic thread :D

Make all native talk (what little there is of it) in this thread  :mrgreen:

Do any of you cRPG guys play native much? I go on Nditions duel a couple of times a week and same with IG battle grounds if possible.
If you see me say hi ^^ my native name is BD_Osiris

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BD is dead but it would be nice if some of the BD tagged crpg guys get together sometime
Title: Re: Native
Post by: oohillac on October 21, 2012, 02:24:30 am
That was my thread!

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Title: Re: Native
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 21, 2012, 02:27:36 am
I play native whenever I want skill-based dueling. cRPG isn't as good for that anymore. I also play native whenever I want to play some Warband but none of the KUTT dudes are on. The cRPG devs did one thing right: Make cRPG incredibly team-based. Now I only bother playing cRPG when I know that I have competent people next to me.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on October 21, 2012, 05:25:23 am
I play native whenever I want skill-based dueling. cRPG isn't as good for that anymore. I also play native whenever I want to play some Warband but none of the KUTT dudes are on. The cRPG devs did one thing right: Make cRPG incredibly team-based. Now I only bother playing cRPG when I know that I have competent people next to me.
Lies, I've seen one person take on waves and waves.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Muki on October 21, 2012, 05:31:30 am
Lies, I've seen one person take on waves and waves.

I seen one person, once take waves and waves of their own team...
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on October 21, 2012, 06:35:37 am
I play a skill-less TDM sometimes.
Exerting my otherwise weak power over those who cannot block!
Title: Re: Native
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 21, 2012, 01:44:20 pm
Every time I join Nditions duel server I witness shamelessly obvious macro feint users that make me sick.

Play against IG_Weirdo, never used Macro and is natives best dueller. Fucking crazy chambers (every hit without miss)

But ye i play native from time to time when i want a few rounds where im not gonna be run over by allied cav, 1 shotted by archers and/or throwers.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Miwiw on October 21, 2012, 01:47:53 pm
I played native actively until August last year, member of IG and only on IG_Battlegrounds actually. Never were bothered to play duel. :D
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Protemus on October 21, 2012, 01:56:01 pm
We must convert those faithless Native's to the sacred ways of cRPG

I will start preaching on their servers at once in hope they will see the light
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Osiris on October 21, 2012, 01:58:04 pm
gonna be hard to do :D

today i joined eu4 other team was 60% archers... rage quit :D
join eu1 get shot shot bumped thrown at shot shot :D

unless they get lucky with the teams why would they stay
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Oberyn on October 21, 2012, 02:03:10 pm
People say "play native" and as a reason point out how ranged is in cRPG? So much irony. Moar like if you want to deal with machinegun sniper xbows/bows that deal insane damage even through the heaviest of armours play native. Only reason IG_Battlegrounds is not as bad as EU1 in that respect is that practically no one plays it, heavily populated servers are the noob-filled ZHG ones.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Osiris on October 21, 2012, 02:07:46 pm
what can i say Oberyn i get shot less in native and it seems to do less damage  :| Im not saying native doesn't have tons of bad parts its just less frustrating for me than playing eu1 unless im on a cav or ranged char :D

If you want to melee lots your better off playing siege

and sure Battlegrounds is usually pretty empty but that's what makes it refreshing its like eu4 without the constant night time and less ranged



But i digress this isnt about whats better as clearly we all play cRPG much much more than native ^^ its just a hey who plays native sometimes or duel thread :D
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Oberyn on October 21, 2012, 03:52:28 pm
I play native from time to time as well. There's reasons why native is better than crpg (in short doses), I just felt that "I get shot less" is definitely not one of em.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Gurnisson on October 21, 2012, 04:16:09 pm
You don't get shot less, but without the extreme kiting it doesn't feel as bad dying to archers. Sure, they have an extreme rate of fire coupled with great accuracy, but their lack of athletics just make them a more fair opponent than the 18 21/24/27 kiters that flies around on cRPG.

If you've ever seen Hospitaller_Aderyn on a server with few people, you can see why archery in cRPG is a complete, utter joke.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Osiris on October 22, 2012, 07:32:50 pm
i had a duel with Doom_KUTT and Xtrah (who isnt really crpg anymore but meh) so ive finally seen someone i recognize ^^
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Shemaforash on October 22, 2012, 08:57:17 pm
Native is better than cRPG in many ways, but playing public can be incredibly boring on native so that's why I tend to play more cRPG public.

Dueled you today, even though I don't like dueling anymore. AE_Shemaforash.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Vodner on October 22, 2012, 09:02:35 pm
Every time I join Nditions duel server I witness shamelessly obvious macro feint users that make me sick.
Feints such as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI0K1z3lMB4&feature=plcp) do not require macros, and are not terribly difficult to execute.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: wayyyyyne on October 22, 2012, 09:06:03 pm
I'm occasionally playing native for two reasons.

Nditions. Yes you will run into macro feinters but it's still more fun than in cRPG. A lot more.

Team death match. Usually crowded with people that appear to have no right mouse button. Lotsa fun.

Feints such as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI0K1z3lMB4&feature=plcp) do not require macros, and are not terribly difficult to execute.

Hard to tell if you're actually feinting or just wiggling your camera around wildly. This isn't what people feint like in Native anyway (that's for EU, dunno about NA).
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Vodner on October 22, 2012, 11:42:08 pm
Hard to tell if you're actually feinting or just wiggling your camera around wildly. This isn't what people feint like in Native anyway (that's for EU, dunno about NA).
Tobi does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8cVMhbrESHQ#t=580s), although he controls his camera movements far better, and has more variety in his feints.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Bjord on October 22, 2012, 11:58:46 pm
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Title: Re: Native
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 22, 2012, 11:59:57 pm
Bjord, you need to like, loosen up man, maybe even meet some real people in real life, go outside man.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Osiris on October 23, 2012, 12:21:33 am
its not meant to be a native vs crpg thread so stop raging :D
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Andy on October 23, 2012, 12:26:45 am
Bjord, you need to like, loosen up man, maybe even meet some real people in real life, go outside man.
Don't worry Bjord, this outernet isn't that different from the internet at all, as you can see in this diagram.
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Title: Re: Native
Post by: Tom Cruise on October 23, 2012, 01:10:39 am
I play native whenever I want skill-based dueling. cRPG isn't as good for that anymore. I also play native whenever I want to play some Warband but none of the KUTT dudes are on. The cRPG devs did one thing right: Make cRPG incredibly team-based. Now I only bother playing cRPG when I know that I have competent people next to me.

Good luck
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Shemaforash on October 24, 2012, 12:12:42 am
Tobi does (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8cVMhbrESHQ#t=580s), although he controls his camera movements far better, and has more variety in his feints.

Tobi doesn't just wiggle his camera around.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Vodner on October 24, 2012, 12:36:47 am
Tobi doesn't just wiggle his camera around.
Nobody just wiggles their camera around. I'm alternating between thrusts and right swings above. The wiggling is just due to my sensitivity being high.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Bjord on October 24, 2012, 12:39:32 am
Tobi doesn't just wiggle his camera around.

Native pro coming through, make room everyone.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Shemaforash on October 24, 2012, 01:04:22 am
I'm not really fond of how Tobi plays, but I rarely duel anymore so that doesn't matter to me anymore. Competitive matches where I pretty much only play cav and sometimes infantry is all that's important to me :)
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Adamar on October 24, 2012, 01:07:57 am
Pro... pff
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Rebelyell on October 24, 2012, 03:30:31 am
I just went back from native... and i will say then it one big ranged fest.

Title: Re: Native
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 24, 2012, 03:33:53 am
Less projectile users, but the faster rate of fire and laser-accuracy and lol-damage makes the whole thing very amusing. Machine-Gun crossbows and uzi-bows are pretty hilarious I admit, we (the Fallen) have made quite a few servers temporarily disable the range classes when we log on, heh.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Fartface on October 24, 2012, 11:26:59 am
All those funny native macro feinters die so easily , you wanna know what to do=== click your left button 2 times and while they´re throwing there camera around they don´t see your hit and eat it. Shameless 39-3 way of playing works in native to.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: [ptx] on October 24, 2012, 11:35:33 am
All those funny native macro feinters die so easily , you wanna know what to do=== click your left button 2 times and while they´re throwing there camera around they don´t see your hit and eat it. Shameless 39-3 way of playing works in native to.
True, but it usually only works like once or twice per player, then they stop feintspamming and... surprise, surprise, boring hit-block-hit-block-fest.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Fartface on October 24, 2012, 11:51:53 am
Suprise suprise I spam a macro then! and then they die 1 or 2 more times and then they start spaming and the cycle repeats!
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Vibe on October 24, 2012, 12:07:23 pm
I play native for Nditions dueling only. A lot more fun to duel than cRPG, also better skilled duelists. Occasionally even see Phyrex there from time to time, who usually kicks my butt. Occasionaly also seeing people like Cyber, Xtrah and Shemaforash there.

As for the macroers, dunno, I believe the top duelists are not macro users, for the rest.. well they are beaten easily anyway.

Using the nick Vibe if you see me.

PS: I wonder why there wasn't ever (or was there?) a melee only Native league?
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Falka on October 24, 2012, 03:28:11 pm
Less projectile users, but the faster rate of fire and laser-accuracy and lol-damage makes the whole thing very amusing. Machine-Gun crossbows and uzi-bows are pretty hilarious I admit

Being archer is ridiculously easy, pinpoint accuracy make it like any FPS shooter, skill is no needed at all. All in all cRPG is superior in almost every aspect, the only thing I miss from native is TDM.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Osiris on December 25, 2012, 11:02:21 pm
Necro bump...

So ive been hanging around native more often (battlegrounds/nditions) and im curious about native clans (as bd is dead). Do many crpgers still play in native clans and could recommend one or two. Id only be active weekends but not super active as im still a crpg addict :-D (maybe one or two days midweek)


Excuse the spelling/grammar im on a pad bored while people watch eastenders ^^
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Daniisme on December 25, 2012, 11:10:38 pm
Play against IG_Weirdo, never used Macro and is natives best dueller. Fucking crazy chambers (every hit without miss)

But ye i play native from time to time when i want a few rounds where im not gonna be run over by allied cav, 1 shotted by archers and/or throwers.

It's TQ not IG anymore and yeah Wierdo is one of the best duelers in Native... I was once at his level but I stopped playing Native and he just pawn me when he want's to play eheheh.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 25, 2012, 11:16:43 pm
Play against IG_Weirdo, never used Macro and is natives best dueller. Fucking crazy chambers (every hit without miss)

He is far from the best, even I can kill Weirdo.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: San on December 25, 2012, 11:21:58 pm
How does the native community accept 1h/polearm users? The one time I went on native duel servers like 7 months ago and there was a bit of whining but that may just be him.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Vodner on December 26, 2012, 01:28:21 am
How does the native community accept 1h/polearm users? The one time I went on native duel servers like 7 months ago and there was a bit of whining but that may just be him.
The greatsword in Native is easily the best 1v1 dueling weapon; anybody complaining about 1h / polearm can safely be ignored. I still think 1v1 one-handed Native duels are the most fun to be had in Warband.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 26, 2012, 01:56:21 am
I sometimes duel on Nditions or play some battle when i'm bored, always fun.
Title: Re: Native
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 26, 2012, 01:58:22 am
i get shot less in native
lol i remember the thousands of archers in native, thats all :)