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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Olwen on October 17, 2012, 08:12:31 pm
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Because we think people who close their borders are selfish morons we decided to open our already open borders, though that's quite the jungle, you're free to rob and trade in this area, as long as you don't rob one of us, in this case we'd have to rape your ass
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Because we think people who close their borders are selfish morons we decided to open our already open borders, though that's quite the jungle, you're free to rob and trade in this area, as long as you don't rob one of us, in this case we'd have to rape your ass
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Freedom to Calradia!
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Bloody anarchists.
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Fuck protectionism! Free market ftw!
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You should have it open for everyone except the big factions who already got lots of fiefs and closed borders themselves.
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FOR FREEDOM! 8-)
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You should have it open for everyone except the big factions who already got lots of fiefs and closed borders themselves.
It is already pretty much like that since they are at war with every bloc clan. :P
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Because we think people who close their borders are selfish morons we decided to open our already open borders, though that's quite the jungle, you're free to rob and trade in this area, as long as you don't rob one of us, in this case we'd have to rape your ass
well done..... this thing with closing border is so retarded....
what will hapend if all of us close borders?
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It is already pretty much like that since they are at war with every bloc clan. :P
Yeah i don't get it. UNSNJDNJSN whatever are basically at war with UIF, Crusaders Alliance and Coalition?
Either they got BALLS. Or they are just retarded.
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Yeah i don't get it. UNSNJDNJSN whatever are basically at war with UIF, Crusaders Alliance and Coalition?
Either they got BALLS. Or they are just retarded.
I'm a hero
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Yeah i don't get it. UNSNJDNJSN whatever are basically at war with UIF, Crusaders Alliance and Coalition?
Either they got BALLS. Or they are just retarded.
Well, not at war with EVERYONE.
But it is a bit of both :D
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Yeah i don't get it. UNSNJDNJSN whatever are basically at war with UIF, Crusaders Alliance and Coalition?
Either they got BALLS. Or they are just retarded.
We are revolutioneers. We bring progressive ideas to Calradia. We will be example for future generations of free people! Down with slavery and tyranny! :)
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You should have it open for everyone except the big factions who already got lots of fiefs and closed borders themselves.
Well said
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Your nation's name already sound like a tinpot dictatorship but now you are making it a free market? Are you propped up by NA?
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well done..... this thing with closing border is so retarded....
what will hapend if all of us close borders?
Well it's common sense...
You'd have to make trade agreements to either swap goods, or have some sort of buy/sell agreements in place.
Factions can make more money selling goods at their fiefs, than allowing other people to sell there. What is going to make you more money, the 15-20% on taxes you get for letting people sell in your fiefs, or the 200-400% you make on the bonus selling there yourself....
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Welcome, nice to see someone picking up the thread :mrgreen:
Dhirim Welcomes all as normal.
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Well it's common sense...
You'd have to make trade agreements to either swap goods, or have some sort of buy/sell agreements in place.
Factions can make more money selling goods at their fiefs, than allowing other people to sell there. What is going to make you more money, the 15-20% on taxes you get for letting people sell in your fiefs, or the 200-400% you make on the bonus selling there yourself....
I agree, it is a flawed system. Specifically one that rewards larger clans, who already have a huge advantage in strat.
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Hahaha I approached Narra a little bit too early. But you can keep my 1 corn (and peasant gear).
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Actually the new tax system with high enough S&D (prosperity upgrades, anyone? If that isn't enough I guess chadz might wanna consider just plain increasing S&D gains.) and high enough taxation might be quite profitable.
If you have say, 20% tax on both selling and buying fief and goods are bought at 5 gold and sold at 25 with 300% boost, ie 100g, both the seller and the buyer are basically getting 20 gold per good for doing absolutely nothing. While losing 40% of your income in tax is pretty nasty, the trader is still getting 55 gold per good for his trade route, which isn't bad in my opinion. I don't have a fief at the moment so I can't check how much raising the tax to 20% or so costs, but probably a shitton, sadly.
The reason borders are closed is that currently money is made by trade as opposed by fiefs. Considering that there's no surprise borders are closed. If allowing trade in fiefs gave you about the same amount of money - maybe a little less or a little more - without requiring you to do anything for it it'd probably be totally worth opening borders. Also if there was enough S&D it'd potentially allow double profits for fief owners: trade AND taxation.
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Actually the new tax system with high enough S&D (prosperity upgrades, anyone? If that isn't enough I guess chadz might wanna consider just plain increasing S&D gains.) and high enough taxation might be quite profitable.
If you have say, 20% tax on both selling and buying fief and goods are bought at 5 gold and sold at 25 with 300% boost, ie 100g, both the seller and the buyer are basically getting 20 gold per good for doing absolutely nothing. While losing 40% of your income in tax is pretty nasty, the trader is still getting 55 gold per good for his trade route, which isn't bad in my opinion. I don't have a fief at the moment so I can't check how much raising the tax to 20% or so costs, but probably a shitton, sadly.
After 5 routes that trader with well equipped army will come for that fief for trade without tax XD