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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 05:53:38 pm

Title: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 05:53:38 pm
As it stands, the bec is more or less unused. I suggest giving it the ability to be used as with a shield, so you can be a bad hoplite. I assume the counterpoint that some people will argue is teh weight of the item, since the awlpike is the same weight and it lost its ability to be used with a shield, but I don't really think that is very relevant.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on October 09, 2012, 06:06:56 pm
Can I use 1h wpf and swing it as such?
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 09, 2012, 06:19:20 pm
Spa he used the word "hoplite" so I'm assuming you would stab it only...
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 07:24:28 pm
Yeah, it would just be able to thrust. If you want to swing a bec with a shield and 1h prof you can just use a warhammer.  :mrgreen:

I doubt this change would cause people to use the bec as their hoplite weapon, but more so you can put some points in shield as to not die to range while still being able to attack.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Kafein on October 09, 2012, 07:28:17 pm
This makes sense. One can use a bec on horse so why wouldn't it be usable with a shield ? Silly suggestions anyway, it's a terrible cav weapon, and it would be a terrible hoplite weapon.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 07:30:55 pm
This makes sense. One can use a bec on horse so why wouldn't it be usable with a shield ? Silly suggestions anyway, it's a terrible cav weapon, and it would be a terrible hoplite weapon.

A longsword is makes for a terrible one hander, but you are still able to use it with a shield in game.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Teeth on October 09, 2012, 08:11:46 pm
I thought everyone and his mother used the bec in murica.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 08:23:51 pm
I thought everyone and his mother used the bec in murica.

Like a year or two ago, yes. You would still see people use them occasionaly up until polestagger was removed. I guess all the polearm users learned euro-footwork and as such just S-key with longer polearms like the glaive or GLB.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 09, 2012, 10:57:45 pm
added poll.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on October 10, 2012, 07:40:22 pm
I still say make it 1h prof with 1h animations, when you hit x. Give it.....88 length and reduced speed/damage.

 I'm just saying it would be the first cool polearm/1h crossover. Which currently do not exist, yet make the most sense for a pole/1h hybrid than 2h/1h.

Maybe some the axes next?
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Piok on October 11, 2012, 04:47:36 pm
I want my that my berdiche should acquire some kind of build in shield. Total size of blade should be on par with buckler :wink:
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on October 11, 2012, 10:04:20 pm
I still say make it 1h prof with 1h animations, when you hit x. Give it.....88 length and reduced speed/damage.

 I'm just saying it would be the first cool polearm/1h crossover. Which currently do not exist, yet make the most sense for a pole/1h hybrid than 2h/1h.

Maybe some the axes next?
I agree. It'd make an interesting addition to the mod. Maybe only hold it half way up the handle?
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Sarpton on October 13, 2012, 01:38:59 am
Hoplite weapons would be better because why would you want it as a 1h?  For the same price you could just use the Pick and what build or situation would this be a good thing?.  As a hoplite weapon it makes the most sense I think.  Very "meh" stab, expensive, but would give you the ability for 1v1.  With out polestun the approved hoplite weapons kinda suck bad.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2012, 11:01:40 pm
A longsword is makes for a terrible one hander, but you are still able to use it with a shield in game.
You can also hoplite with a longsword
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Turboflex on October 15, 2012, 03:54:52 pm
I dunno why people stopped using bec it still has nice stats, a +3 has 37 pierce that's same a morningstar but with 1 more speed and 40 more length! I was trying a +3 one with my 15/24 spearman and having no probs killing tincans even tho I only have 5 PS.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Gurnisson on October 15, 2012, 04:32:38 pm
+3 has 37 pierce that's same a morningstar but with 1 more speed and 40 more length!

Regular morningstar has 38 pierce, 41 at +3. The length of the weapon is 40 points longer which makes you slower, but the length advantage is a not that high because of the polearm grip compared to the 2H grip.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on October 15, 2012, 06:12:10 pm
I still say make it 1h prof with 1h animations, when you hit x. Give it.....88 length and reduced speed/damage.

 I'm just saying it would be the first cool polearm/1h crossover. Which currently do not exist, yet make the most sense for a pole/1h hybrid than 2h/1h.

Maybe some the axes next?

Because its the best idea from this thread.

I quoted myself.
Title: Re: Bec De Corbin with a shield
Post by: Kafein on October 15, 2012, 06:33:05 pm
I regularly outrange bec users with my military cleaver. They do have the uncanny habit of being very quick on their feet so it requires good prediction.