cRPG
cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Black_Winged_One on October 06, 2012, 07:37:43 am
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I have played this mod a few times, and recently played again, but just keep coming back to, "why bother with the grind?" I mean it just feels like vanilla M&B, except everyone is grinding up to where vanilla starts at. whenever I see peasants just getting one shotted and dealing zero damage, I'm wondering why they think it's fun to grind through this...
I ended up just skipping to 30 and dressing like a ninja. That was fun for a little bit.
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It's fun because it's hard, and your constant grinding is slowly rewarded. Unlike real life.
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The grind isn't that bad. Only takes a few hours to get to lvl 15+ and being able to kill people consistently.
The fun is basically having your own personal character, armor, weps, and build that stick with you. You don't have to retire or use more than one character to play this mod. Loomed weps and armor do not add that much to where it nullifies skill.
Also: At fifteen, I had the will to learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ; at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the square..
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It's mainly about epeen, as with all online games
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Unlike real life.
wat
i jsut like the game, and the comunity and consistency because of character linking makes it a better experience than native
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Mainly the custom armors, online charbuilding and the fact that your grind gets rewarded yes. You dont really get that in any of the other mods in Warband. Your hard work usually always vanishes with the server restart in the few mods that do save your progress.
I personally like the fact that there are so many different builds here. You never know if the guy you fighting is a str build willing to cut you down in 1 hit or a kitten with 0 PS.
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I've always loved cRPG because I can play the character I want without relying on factions and equipment restrictions. Sure, the grind is a pain, but, as you grind and retire, your skills improve and, eventually, you have a lot of heirlooms.
I suppose it can be discouraging for beginners since most people are veterans, but that happens in most games. If you like cRPG, you won't be able to quit.
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The game is fun because of the xp system (it is not a real grinding system though), the custom builds and many different gear. The website also gives you many different things, like the clan system, marketplace and battle system (including Strat).
Therefore crpg is far better than native and more fun. If you don't like leveling up, do the STF thingie, though you should never do that on your main.
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If you dont get the appeal of the mod, just dont play. I dont mean that in a harsh way, but if you dont have fun playing this game, dont play it tbh, its not for everyone, and starting recently I can imagine it feels VERY harsh. Although it does irritate me when new guys are QQ'ing about how expensive stuff is or how it takes to level up; THEY HAVE NO IDEA what it was like :D
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I think its the fact that you can play "your" character. You choose your looks, the build you want, and when you login you start where you left, unlike native where you play trought the rounds and can pick limited gear for each class.
If you feel its all about grind, you better leave quick for your own sake, if not just have fun playing your character.
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What is the appeal of this mod?
The fact that you are up against a population of the best Warband players in the world all concentrated in one place.
I mean, have you seen how terrible your average native player is? Although there are a handful of them who are pretty good duelists, I have found the vast majority don't know how to attack well, block competently, or make good equipment choices, and many of them think that being told to march in lines for the purposes of RPing conscripts in a 19th century army is the best game experience Mount and Blade has to offer. As for myself, I cannot say I am good by any stretch of the imagination, but, after a couple of months and a few thousand deaths in cRPG, I have reached the point where I can join a native game and style over nearly everyone (unless there's another, better cRPG player in the game, as has happened on a few occasions), and I have the people who play this mod to thank for it.
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A lot of the best Warband players are regular native players. But yeah, the vast majority are total noobs. Just compare the population of servers with good players ( like Nditions or IG_battlegrounds) to that of Zendar Hunter's Guild TDM and Siege (replete with the type of player you describe), which are by far the most populated of all native servers
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Grinding sucks if thats is what u focus on. Best time I have is when I team up with someone and kick ass as a team. And I have many classes: shielder, poleguy and 2h, HA, polecav, thrower and xbow. I can do all those too and don't have to stick with one. And when one character gets lvl 31 I get a better item. I also try to stay alive and not just hunt peasants or sacrifice myself for one kill.
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I guess I'll try to stick with this for a little bit more, character I just made is already like 10, so I'll keep going. The only real reason for me to keep playing though is the massive population, which I'm thankful for.
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You just always have to remember, that this is a game. If you don't enjoy it during a session, better quit and play something else. If you see it more casually, you will always have your fun. :)
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The grind is awful, but you can make an instant level 30 'skip the fun' character. That way, you get the best parts of the mod (character and equipment customization), without the bad parts (grind).
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For me, the "level grind" is just a distraction; in my second generation, I have done much better at levels 15-25 than I was doing at 25-29 last generation. It's also interesting to see your actual skill with a weapon rise with your in-game proficiency, giving the illusion that it has much more of an effect than it actually does. One reason this mod is so awesome is that you get the constant little bit of satisfaction when you gain experience and level up, but the real depth of the game itself is almost completely detached from it. You get all the benefits without the cost. For a truly stark comparison, evaluate the grinding in this game with Diablo III or World of Warcraft--games completely founded in grinding with a game on top as a distraction.
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Although I do have to admit, killing heavily armoured guys as a peasant was immensely satisfying. I play siege, so I would try to get high up and jump down onto people, using the momentum for a kill with my weak stats. :P
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Personally I have 3 alts that I play when my main isn't working out. Some days 2h just doesn't work for me, so I hop on my shielder or my pole guy. Also i use different weapons damn near every round. The grind sucks but its fun when you hit thirty and see your build come together.
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What I like about this mod is that you and everybody else has a custom character, with a specific set of gear, skills and a specific playstyle. I just like the recognition that brings with such a small playerbase. Also, the balance of this mod is pretty damn good and shielder isn't the only viable melee class, which is what killed Native for me.
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Evrything you see above is just a LIE, ill tell you what it realy iss. You play you hate it but they will convince you to play more and before you know it you´re cursed with the old dreadly curse of chadz , making you hate evrything about this game but at the same time your body needs it like meth. And the more you play the more you need it untill eventualy you end up like Tears Of Destiny and never leaving the modd always being there any time any day through forum and game. It will suck every bit of life out of you and leave a lifeless corpse behind.
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Well,a sk yourself this. Why do some folks think Call of Duty is fun? It's almost the same concept with the weapons. With this, it's just fun to get better at the game and get more skill. When you learn how to block decently then the game becomes fun and no longer a bother (Though it isn't really one in the first place)
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Mod challenges you every time, no matter which class you choose.
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Evrything you see above is just a LIE, ill tell you what it realy iss. You play you hate it but they will convince you to play more and before you know it you´re cursed with the old dreadly curse of chadz , making you hate evrything about this game but at the same time your body needs it like meth. And the more you play the more you need it untill eventualy you end up like Tears Of Destiny and never leaving the modd always being there any time any day through forum and game. It will suck every bit of life out of you and leave a lifeless corpse behind.
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I like the size of the game population. You aren't always playing with the same 50 people whenever you log on, but you start to recognize players after a while.
The grind isn't really that bad. If you play for 4-8 hours you should be in the 20s level-wise. At that point you have enough stats/skill points/wpf to use practically any gear you want. Getting the gold for expensive gear can take a little longer, but that part is fun to me. When you finally assemble your set of items and go tear the battlefield up it feels great. Much better than logging on and slogging through nameless mouthbreathers in Native multiplayer (although sometimes I wish there was a crpg server that rotated some of the more crazy and unrealistic maps you find on Native servers. Those are fun!).
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Mod challenges you every time, no matter which class you choose.
Well said
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I dont like the grind either, its why i havnt retired in like 6 months. I play this mod over the others becuase of character customization, and because the speed of the game is significantly faster than native or regular Warband in general. Other than that this game is basically like the counter strike of this first person melle game or whatever you call it. Ive never played a game in this genre before so its new and fun and have been playing a long time. Counter strike was my first FPS and it blew me away as i had never played the genre and i played CS for a few years before playing a few other FPS and gradually getting bored with the genre. So ya this is just still new and something i had never seen before that i like so i play it. CRPG is actually the only game i play at this point (only game ive played for the last year). I dont know if id play games anymore if i got bored with this im already bored of all my fav genres.
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I dont like the grind either, its why i havnt retired in like 6 months. I play this mod over the others becuase of character customization, and because the speed of the game is significantly faster than native or regular Warband in general.
What? If you're talking of melee speed, native is faster than cRPG (nonwithstanding ridiculously high agi builds with fast weapons like katana maybe). cRPG isn't Vikingr slow, but it's slower than native for sure.
And native is much more CS like than cRPG, if only for the "buy equip with money made on that particular map" mechanic. I'd say something mean about the ranged balance in native, but that would be beating a dead horse.
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the speed of the game is significantly faster than native or regular Warband in general
Factually incorrect.
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He might be referring to the rounds themselves, as Native rounds often drag out longer then c-RPG rounds in my experience by a good minute or two. At least for me, it seems like a lot more things are going on in c-RPG rounds and thus seems faster.
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The best thing is having all these my old friends around you.
Seriously, its partially thanks to the community that most of us stay and enjoy it so much.
Ofc the dev team does great work on the gameplay and such, but the community is a big part of the gaming experience.
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He might be referring to the rounds themselves, as Native rounds often drag out longer then c-RPG rounds in my experience by a good minute or two. At least for me, it seems like a lot more things are going on in c-RPG rounds and thus seems faster.
Then again, that is a positive thing with this size of playerbase. Depending on the map, you will get different types of movements. I really like the ones where they don't all move in 1 group, but more splitted, and cav going to a cavfield. This way, there are little fights all around, but it's actually 1 battle.
I once knew a moment where i was in a group, encountering another group. It took some time, but we won with small casualities. Thinking we have won the battle, we walk around the corner to see a bigger group fighting leftovers from our team, dropping (atleast my) morale greatly. It's just one of those things.
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Customization is the fucking shit. I love how i can choose my looks my style my spec and try different things.
Games that doesnt allow you to choose that = sucks
And the community is the best i have ever experienced
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I'd say something mean about the ranged balance in native, but that would be beating a dead horse.
Im bad
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it's the only video game where you can beat the shit out of someone because you have heavy gauntlets, whilst stabs from sharp pointy things bounce off of your plate armor
nerf fists
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I remember when my dad catched me playin Native. He asked why was I playin it, cause I dont get anything in the end anyway. Now I can tell him I play C-cprg, I get looms and gens now. I dont waste my life anymore. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I remember when my dad catched me playin Native. He asked why was I playin it, cause I dont get anything in the end anyway. Now I can tell him I play C-cprg, I get looms and gens now. I dont waste my life anymore. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
pfffft :lol:
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appeal over native? I can play without shield.
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being able to dress like a mighty warrior is the best thing.
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Lol, negative vote just because we can.
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