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Title: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Corsair831 on October 04, 2012, 12:57:33 pm
hi, a player named "Genzel" of Mercenaries repeatedly team attacked me and several of my players during our strategus battle yesterday, he wasted lots of equipment and was generally griefing.

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as can be seen he is 0/9

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he is also a member of mercenaries, and has a performance level that would suggest he'd get a lot higher than that score usually ..

I don't think this type of behaviour is really acceptable, if i did the same thing to mercenaries and got my friends to go on their team and troll and grief my entire group would probably get deleted ... can we have some justice pls ?
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 04, 2012, 01:30:35 pm
EDIT: Ban he
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: dodnet on October 04, 2012, 01:36:49 pm
Well the K/D doesn't really say much. I too had similar scores in several battles and have a performance of 6/10. Displaying the score (from ingame) would be an good idea on these rosters. There you could see the teamwounders too. I think the k/d on the roster also doesn't show negative values (teamkills). I'm quite sure, that in one of my first battles I ended up with -1  :|, but the score on the roster is 0.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Tonyukuk on October 04, 2012, 01:49:14 pm
İ think you must upload some ss when he was atacking to you
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Thovex on October 04, 2012, 02:21:51 pm
I think he means that he is fighting AGAINST Mercenaries, and he hired one of the Mercenaries on HIS side and he "griefed".

It is in general an awful idea to hire people from the side you're fighting against there?  :P
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Elmokki on October 04, 2012, 02:26:23 pm
Sure, recruiting enemies to your roster is a terrible idea. Generally you can expect them to not show up and waste a slot anyway. Regardless of if it's a bad idea or not though, anyone who shows up for a Strategus battle and intentionally tries to make the team they are fighting for perform worse should be banned. Repeating offenders for very long times.

But yeah, those screenshots don't tell much.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Jarlek on October 04, 2012, 02:29:49 pm
I think he means that he is fighting AGAINST Mercenaries, and he hired one of the Mercenaries on HIS side and he "griefed".

It is in general an awful idea to hire people from the side you're fighting against there?  :P
Still, doesn't mean that he can sabotage for his team, right?

Didn't cmp say that, you can sign up against your own faction if you fight, but if you grief, then you get banned.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 04, 2012, 02:32:56 pm
Didn't cmp say that, you can sign up against your own faction if you fight, but if you grief, then you get banned.

Afaik yes: You can fight against your faction aslong as you fight and dont just leech,suicide,no-show.

But depending on the fight a 0-9 score doesnt mean he didnt try to fight, espeically since others have similar scores. You would have to have a screenshot that shows him sabotaging the team.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Corsair831 on October 04, 2012, 02:43:46 pm
i didn't know he was a merc when i hired him he wears no tags, and i recruited him in the last few seconds of frentic clicking to recruit people :/

he was persistently team wounding me and my team, hitting as many people as he could, people were complaining about him on teamspeak ... is this really fair that someone can do this ?!
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Tyr_ on October 04, 2012, 02:44:33 pm
I'll make it quick. Take a look at Nebun, he got performance 7 (1 more than Genzel) and managed to get the awesome amount of 1 kill  :rolleyes:. Genzel is a friend of a Merc, he is helping us in strategus, but he isn't even in our Crpg ladder. Since he is helping us only on the strat map and moreover is no Mercenary, he is free to do whatever he wants, including fighting for any side he gets hired by. And if you think that he must be awesome because he is in the Merc Strat faction, well, I'm glad to see it since this is what we want to be and i would be very disappointed seeing a Merc member doing a K/D like this, but he is no Merc. And man, why do you hire someone from the faction you attack? KMC is applying for our rosters all the time and the only reason for me to accept him would be to kick him out of the roster 1 minute before the battle starts.

Btw: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=211
Chase made 1:4 although he got 7 performance, i think he is trying so sabotage you  :cry:

Ps: you managed to kill 27 of us while hiring 26 people, there's no communism here, kills aren't spread equally!
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: dodnet on October 04, 2012, 02:53:56 pm
Well as he said, you don't see the faction of an applicant on the strategus page. You only see it on the cRPG-battle page. Showing the faction on that page would be an good addition.

Btw: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=211
Chase made 1:4 although he got 7 performance, i think he is trying so sabotage you  :cry:

That result just shows, that Teeth is a kill stealer  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Jarlek on October 04, 2012, 02:57:47 pm
Well as he said, you don't see the faction of an applicant on the strategus page. You only see it on the cRPG-battle page. Showing the faction on that page would be an good addition.
Even then, his faction means jack shit.

he was persistently team wounding me and my team, hitting as many people as he could, people were complaining about him on teamspeak ...
THIS matters.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Tyr_ on October 04, 2012, 02:59:39 pm
If you are not mentally retarded you always can hit the "M" button on your keyboard if someone teamhits you on purpose :rolleyes:
If you disabled it like i did, well, bad luck
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Nebun on October 04, 2012, 03:01:28 pm
I'll make it quick. Take a look at Nebun, he got performance 7

Don't look at me, I'm poor archer stuck with cudgel in spawn rape :) But i didn't teamhit/teamkilled on purpose or wasted any equip like ur friend did.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Cicero on October 04, 2012, 03:13:35 pm
come on are you guys telling me that teh mighty mercs need someone in enemy team that will grief ; you guys all liar.Its their friend and he is not merc oh wait
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Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Tyr_ on October 04, 2012, 03:14:10 pm
I barely agree with anything you say Vovka, but you got a point
1. Spawnrape: You got spawnraped and expect your people to have a good K/D?
2. Cudgel: You had no equipment which wouldve been worth wasting

Edit: I see, the turkish voice of wisdome joined this thread, spread your words among us like you spread onions on a Kebap! I'll gently try to ignore them, there surely is no need in opening this spoilers...
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Turboflex on October 04, 2012, 03:56:46 pm
Kinda sad to see all the people defending a cheater, hopefully the admins can check logs for you to verify. Otherwise next time you should take screenshots or video of the guy it would be a lot easier to ban him.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 04, 2012, 04:35:24 pm
Seriously? This talk isnt about a real battle but about a spawnrape and guys with cudgels?
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Cicero on October 04, 2012, 04:38:07 pm
I barely agree with anything you say Vovka, but you got a point
1. Spawnrape: You got spawnraped and expect your people to have a good K/D?
2. Cudgel: You had no equipment which wouldve been worth wasting

Edit: I see, the turkish voice of wisdome joined this thread, spread your words among us like you spread onions on a Kebap! I'll gently try to ignore them, there surely is no need in opening this spoilers...
Nice try but u can not do that =) U already replied me =)

Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Torben on October 04, 2012, 04:46:24 pm
a guy showing at a battle and sabotaging it  ruins the fun for the team and is in no good sportsmanship.  If I was a hot 19 yo kindergarten teacher,  I would make him sit in a corner.

and let the other boys touch my boobs.

because they behaved.

and he didnt.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Corsair831 on October 04, 2012, 05:14:26 pm
I barely agree with anything you say Vovka, but you got a point
1. Spawnrape: You got spawnraped and expect your people to have a good K/D?
2. Cudgel: You had no equipment which wouldve been worth wasting

Edit: I see, the turkish voice of wisdome joined this thread, spread your words among us like you spread onions on a Kebap! I'll gently try to ignore them, there surely is no need in opening this spoilers...

tyr it's not cool that your guys join my team at the last second (when i cant see they're of merc), and then team attack all my players and grief ..

do you really need to cheat like this to play strat ? cant we just have fun and stuff ?
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Tyr_ on October 04, 2012, 05:25:28 pm
tyr it's not cool that your guys join my team at the last second (when i cant see they're of merc), and then team attack all my players and grief ..

do you really need to cheat like this to play strat ? cant we just have fun and stuff ?

I'll make it quick. Take a look at Nebun, he got performance 7 (1 more than Genzel) and managed to get the awesome amount of 1 kill  :rolleyes:. Genzel is a friend of a Merc, he is helping us in strategus, but he isn't even in our Crpg ladder. Since he is helping us only on the strat map and moreover is no Mercenary, he is free to do whatever he wants, including fighting for any side he gets hired by. And if you think that he must be awesome because he is in the Merc Strat faction, well, I'm glad to see it since this is what we want to be and i would be very disappointed seeing a Merc member doing a K/D like this, but he is no Merc. And man, why do you hire someone from the faction you attack? KMC is applying for our rosters all the time and the only reason for me to accept him would be to kick him out of the roster 1 minute before the battle starts.

Btw: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=211
Chase made 1:4 although he got 7 performance, i think he is trying so sabotage you  :cry:

Ps: you managed to kill 27 of us while hiring 26 people, there's no communism here, kills aren't spread equally!

Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: dodnet on October 04, 2012, 05:26:11 pm
If he really did that on purpose its lame as fuck. I too teamhit quite often, but its because I'm shit with any 4-way-weapon :|. Its not on purpose!
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Noctivagant on October 04, 2012, 05:48:01 pm
Dude...It's your damn roster. Be sober when you handle it. Genzel is not a Merc member he is just in Strategus ladder to help us. Its very normal that he have no idea about our diplomacy. Still...do you know how many Greys apply to my roster? Nuuks, several times I had Archer_KMC from Druzhina (I actually like Nuuks but still) I will never add them because I know they will never show up. Its your mistake to be honest.

P.S (this part is not for you Corsair) There are some inbred ppl here who cannot even explain their Strat 3 finances and have nerve to talk about Mercs cheating. As I said before if you got a problem with any suspicious behavior. Take it to admins.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 04, 2012, 05:48:36 pm
Genzel - Friend of DaveUKR. ( I know right, dave has friends?)  :D
He isnt a Merc, make screenshots, get him banned. The end.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Osiris on October 04, 2012, 07:55:36 pm
well when a guy wears your flag in game and is in your ladder its usually ok to assume he is a member :P how are we supposed to know otherwise (and he isnt tagged true but i remember when some mercs untagged then got pissy when asked if they were still mercs claiming ofc we are you should know that, cant remember who dont ask) :D

also i found harpags new strat plans. send in the ladies!


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Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Haboe on October 04, 2012, 08:15:37 pm
Next time take screenshots. And no, i'm not talking about useless screenshots afterward of a guy with a bad score, im talking about in game screens that prove he is griefing.

If that happened and you have screenshots you can make a banrequest in the appropriate section of the forums, this seems rather pointless since it will be one's word vs the other.

Come with prove, and the needed actions can be made.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Lizard_man on October 04, 2012, 08:17:41 pm
Mercs haven't had anything to do with this, he's done this of his own accord it seems. I wasn't at the battle, but if he was indeed doing what you say, then there is a problem. Report him, although you'll need more proof than a poor k/d ratio...
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Chasey on October 04, 2012, 08:32:58 pm


Btw: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=211
Chase made 1:4 although he got 7 performance, i think he is trying so sabotage you  :cry:

Ps: you managed to kill 27 of us while hiring 26 people, there's no communism here, kills aren't spread equally!

archer with 0 ps and no bow  :cry:
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: The_danish_lost_viking on October 04, 2012, 10:20:42 pm
well then you check the background on a person you just like to fight for you, i dont think its Merc there accept roster
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: DaveUKR on October 04, 2012, 10:58:47 pm
Well, yes, it's my friend and as you could see - he always applies randomly and I don't remember us accepting him for our side. I was on that battle and I didn't really see Genzel teamhitting anyone. It was just a mess and a spawnrape, how could he even manage to teamhit anyone if most of you got killed instantly after spawning?

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to say sorry here but I do - sorry for this.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 04, 2012, 11:06:12 pm
Thank you Dave
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: DaveUKR on October 04, 2012, 11:33:13 pm
Please edit your post, I hope to be hired by someone again in the future.

Done, sorry :D
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Corsair831 on October 04, 2012, 11:49:35 pm
Well, yes, it's my friend and as you could see - he always applies randomly and I don't remember us accepting him for our side. I was on that battle and I didn't really see Genzel teamhitting anyone. It was just a mess and a spawnrape, how could he even manage to teamhit anyone if most of you got killed instantly after spawning?

I'm not sure if it's appropriate to say sorry here but I do - sorry for this.

thanks

and lol zlicsh your avatar is amazing
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 04, 2012, 11:59:44 pm
and lol zlicsh your avatar is amazing
Thank you.
Title: Re: Mercs Cheating in Battle
Post by: Bjord on October 05, 2012, 12:04:41 am
Nice smear campaign. Thought you were an okay guy, but I guess I was wrong.