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Title: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 02:02:30 am: (click to show/hide)
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There's NO WAY they got 3k in population into a castle. THAT IS FUKING BULLSHIT.
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Post by: Malaclypse on October 03, 2012, 02:05:32 am: Hey, I can see my dot from up here. Hey dot!
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Post by: Spanish on October 03, 2012, 02:23:02 am: Wizardy Zeo???
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Post by: Thovex on October 03, 2012, 02:26:45 am: Not sure if I'm getting it right but isn't that this?: visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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Post by: Smoothrich on October 03, 2012, 02:28:43 am: Quote from: Thovex on October 03, 2012, 02:26:45 am
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They're a clan of two players, and have had 2 thousand troops converted into population there for a couple weeks already.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 04:28:07 am: Quote from: Smoothrich on October 03, 2012, 02:28:43 am
They're a clan of two players, and have had 2 thousand troops converted into population there for a couple weeks already.

3000 troops actually. Castles start with 1k troops and they added 3k in tickets in 2 weeks.

regardless of clan size, 3k tickets is almost 1.5 weeks of nothing but recruiting for close to 20-30 people.(depending on the amount of people)
(btw 1 person would have made, since strat start 336 troops. you would need 10 people recruiting CONTINUALLY for 2 weeks to get that. they've had that for longer if smooth is correct, which means abuse or glitch used.)
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Cepeshi on October 03, 2012, 05:05:26 am: Quote from: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 04:28:07 am
3000 troops actually. Castles start with 1k troops and they added 3k in tickets in 2 weeks.

regardless of clan size, 3k tickets is almost 1.5 weeks of nothing but recruiting for close to 20-30 people.(depending on the amount of people)
(btw 1 person would have made, since strat start 336 troops. you would need 10 people recruiting CONTINUALLY for 2 weeks to get that. they've had that for longer if smooth is correct, which means abuse or glitch used.)

or a lot of people donating troops to them
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 05:08:22 am: Bull. that's insane. No way that you got 3k donated to you by this point in strat.
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Post by: dodnet on October 03, 2012, 08:56:31 am: Maybe they bought it from someone?
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Post by: Vovka on October 03, 2012, 09:29:04 am: 1 man can recruit 24 troops per day, so 6 man can make 3024 in 3 weeks
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Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2012, 09:58:18 am: Quote from: Vovka on October 03, 2012, 09:29:04 am
1 man can recruit 24 troops per day, so 6 man can make 3024 in 3 weeks

The problem however is that population count has been that high or similar for a long time by now.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Osiris on October 03, 2012, 12:26:56 pm: bah i thought you meant the Templar Papal guards :D
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Post by: bredeus on October 03, 2012, 12:30:53 pm: There are no longer Templar Papal guards since they have failed in their duty
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Post by: Harafat on October 03, 2012, 03:57:29 pm: Quote from: bredeus on October 03, 2012, 12:30:53 pm
There are no longer Templar Papal guards since they have failed in their duty

Of course they failed, cuz you did it wrong!

The elite guards throughout history were nearly all times recruited from other lands then the ones the ruler hailed from. Tihis way they would have little interest in local politics. Also almost allways, they we're recruited from the lowest ranks of the populace and bestowed with great wealth, so their loyalty would be undisputed. What you need is fierce warriors, with little or no moral or gold, that hail from other lands then your own.
I'm not saying i'm applying, but i am applying :)
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 04:06:17 pm: Quote from: CountBerenger on October 03, 2012, 09:58:18 am
The problem however is that population count has been that high or similar for a long time by now.

This.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 03, 2012, 05:02:26 pm: Quote from: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 04:06:17 pm
This.

They have 11 members, so it would only take them a little more then a week and a half of constant recruiting. Also they are hosp vassels, so I would imagine that they kicked a couple troops/gold back at them.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Tydeus on October 03, 2012, 05:03:26 pm: There are currently only 2 players in the fief, and there have only been that amount for quite a while now. More importantly, hero_party hasn't seen 3K troops come into this area, but not leave. Explain to me, how 2K+ troops could waltz into the area, without anyone seeing them, then leave with only 100 troops. You're talking about nearly 30 different armies with 200+ troops coming into the area, then leaving with 100 troops or something of the equivalent.

Edit: Surely, Hospitaller would understand there are more useful things to have 2K troops accomplish, than just sit in a castle?

Edit2:
<Shik> New Samarra Castle, 3840 population, 2840 more than normal
<Tydeus> I've made 240 troops since strat started and I have been recruiting from the start

This is an irc paste from the dev channel that occurred seven days ago.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 05:17:46 pm: Quote from: oprah_winfrey on October 03, 2012, 05:02:26 pm
They have 11 members, so it would only take them a little more then a week and a half of constant recruiting. Also they are hosp vassels, so I would imagine that they kicked a couple troops/gold back at them.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfofaction&id=58

3 by strat count.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 03, 2012, 05:32:05 pm: I was wondering how the hell that happened myself.

And my second question was, why the fuck would you use 3000 army troops and convert to population? That would be really stupid unless you were super poor. Having an army would have been a lot smarter than pure population. Now if you try to put goods to defend the castle, someone could raid and steal them all, and then you have a peasant battle with 4000 troops...
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Weewum on October 03, 2012, 10:37:13 pm: We have been wondering the same thing, ironically, the member who owns the fief, has also abused the long spear on horse glitch, whenever we ask him, they say it was legit, if someone could figure this out it would be helpful.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Spanish on October 03, 2012, 11:40:19 pm: Damn looks like I'm have to threaten to ban all of you for discovering this obvious aboose.

I thought this was a trolly thread....but for realz papal guard is aboozing game? :O
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 03, 2012, 11:48:56 pm: Quote from: Spanish on October 03, 2012, 11:40:19 pm
Damn looks like I'm have to threaten to ban all of you for discovering this obvious aboose.

I thought this was a trolly thread....but for realz papal guard is aboozing game? :O

YES. I wasn't kidding when I asked how they got that many troops.

a 58 man faction with nothing but solid recruitment would make 26k tickets by now. Now Papal guard is a 2 man faction. HOW does ANYONE get that many tickets(2k within 4 days no less) to put into a castle.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Pistachio on October 04, 2012, 12:32:18 am: Guys first off, we didn't even know. Sister Salehope was the one doing this all. She never told us and we were complaining too. :(
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Goretooth on October 04, 2012, 12:36:29 am: http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Kirbyy on October 04, 2012, 12:42:03 am: Now wait before we start jumping to conclusions... I actually (also a Hosp Vassal, leader of Malta) talked to Papal guard at one point last week about this, talking about what was to unfold, they think it is set to one person who could have done this, before anything is said or done I'd be willing to give the name of who they (and I as well) think it is. To be quite honest, they actually had very sincere, fearful, tones as if they had no idea what happened. I believe (as said before) all but one is innocent. If discipline does come into play, I will be willing to Msg a developer of this suspect.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Weewum on October 04, 2012, 01:14:52 am: Never tell your password to anyone.
Wednesday, October 03, 2012
6:19 PM - Weewum: How do you have so many troops in samarra?
6:19 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: ?
6:19 PM - Weewum: how do you have 4000 population?
6:19 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: Recruit
6:20 PM - Weewum: You can't get 4000 by just recruiting
6:20 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: I don't know
6:20 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: I just recruited
6:23 PM - Weewum: How did you recruit so fast?
Cambronne [Qc] ™ is now Away.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
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Post by: Kirbyy on October 04, 2012, 01:34:19 am: Quote from: Tank Burner on October 04, 2012, 01:33:11 am
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Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Weewum on October 04, 2012, 01:54:56 am: Quote from: Tank Burner on October 04, 2012, 01:33:11 am
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Hmm, burn on the stake of removing rank, kick, or confiscation of the fief?
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:07:32 am: Hey guys!
I am Sister SaleHope from the Papal Guard and I own Samara Castle. I don't know what's going on but, I just recruit. I don't know how to cheat or things like that. I give my word that I didn,t cheat (I don't know how). I you guys trust me, I just recruit and once a time, I couldn't give troops in my population so I stopped (I was at 4k pop.). Hermann the saint was giving some soldiers to me. I don't know at what number we strat but I didn't cheat.

I had a bug once a time. I just had like 49 million troops so I ask chadz to remove it. He removed it and he said thank you but I didn't cheat and I was still recruiting.

You can say that I am a cheater or something else but I give you my word that I didn't cheat.

-SaleHope
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:08:55 am: Quote from: Weewum on October 04, 2012, 01:14:52 am
Never tell your password to anyone.
Wednesday, October 03, 2012
6:19 PM - Weewum: How do you have so many troops in samarra?
6:19 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: ?
6:19 PM - Weewum: how do you have 4000 population?
6:19 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: Recruit
6:20 PM - Weewum: You can't get 4000 by just recruiting
6:20 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: I don't know
6:20 PM - Cambronne [Qc] ™: I just recruited
6:23 PM - Weewum: How did you recruit so fast?
Cambronne [Qc] ™ is now Away.

I didn't cheat ...
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Elindor on October 04, 2012, 02:10:47 am: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:07:32 am
I just had like 49 million troops so I ask chadz to remove it. He removed it and he said thank you but I didn't cheat and I was still recruiting.

:shock:

Apparently something else got glitched then.

If this happened with chadz, I would go back to him (or the other devs) and inquire about this issue of your population being so high....could be related.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Kirbyy on October 04, 2012, 02:13:31 am: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:07:32 am
I had a bug once a time. I just had like 49 million troops so I ask chadz to remove it. He removed it and he said thank you but I didn't cheat and I was still recruiting.

Not trying to ask too much but... is it possible for chadz to confirm this?
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Post by: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:15:42 am: Quote from: LookItsMountNBladeMan on October 04, 2012, 02:13:31 am
Not trying to ask too much but... is it possible for chadz to confirm this?

If you want to, he will say yes.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Kirbyy on October 04, 2012, 02:17:22 am: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:15:42 am
If you want to, he will say yes.

As I assumed...
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Blackzilla on October 04, 2012, 02:54:47 am: Ill come renovate Samarra Castle and take it off your hands! Then all this cheating nonsense will be done with!
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:56:57 am: Quote from: DoD_Blackzilla on October 04, 2012, 02:54:47 am
Ill come renovate Samarra Castle and take it off your hands! Then all this cheating nonsense will be done with!

No cheat in there.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Keshian on October 04, 2012, 04:09:16 am: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:56:57 am
No cheat in there.

Why were you not suspicious when your fief gained 20x times as many troops as what you were putting in. You act like you have no idea, this is the first you have heard of it. You never mentioned it to the developers and when asked directly you ditch the channel. So yeah, it looks suspicious or at the very least you took advantage of a known glitch for as long as possible without reporting it even though even your own clanmates were raising concerns.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Kirbyy on October 04, 2012, 04:16:05 am: Quote from: Keshian on October 04, 2012, 04:09:16 am
Why were you not suspicious when your fief gained 20x times as many troops as what you were putting in. You act like you have no idea, this is the first you have heard of it. You never mentioned it to the developers and when asked directly you ditch the channel. So yeah, it looks suspicious or at the very least you took advantage of a known glitch for as long as possible without reporting it even though even your own clanmates were raising concerns.

Not to mention from what I've been told she disbanded Papal guards Strat faction...
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Vovka on October 04, 2012, 07:48:51 am: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 02:07:32 am
I had a bug once a time. I just had like 49 million troops so I ask chadz to remove it. He removed it and he said thank you but I didn't cheat and I was still recruiting.

You can say that I am a cheater or something else but I give you my word that I didn't cheat.

-SaleHope
So stupid dupe bug still in game... nice :evil:
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Tydeus on October 04, 2012, 08:51:50 am: Guess this is why strat is frozen.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lordark on October 04, 2012, 11:32:27 am: about a week ago some castles pop went from normal 1k to 100 or 200 and other jumped to 2000 or 3000.

I think the game is fucking up IMO.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: LordBerenger on October 04, 2012, 11:34:18 am: Lmao Papal just disbanded and fled from Samarra. Seriously Hosp. You picked shitty vassals who could possibly be cheaters/glitch abusers.

And even though they're glitch abusers/cheaters they're cowards too abandoning their post! This is gold.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lordark on October 04, 2012, 12:11:39 pm: Maybe your right bro. Maybe not? Im sure our Development team will look into this and fix the game for game justice.

I mean we all donate money still so they should look into this right away! (I last donated 10 bucks about 3 months ago I think)
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Post by: LordBerenger on October 04, 2012, 12:25:46 pm: Quote from: Lordark on October 04, 2012, 12:11:39 pm
Maybe your right bro. Maybe not? Im sure our Development team will look into this and fix the game for game justice.

I mean we all donate money still so they should look into this right away! (I last donated 10 bucks about 3 months ago I think)

Besides possibly cheating/glitching you put cowards as vassals mang! They run at first sight of trouble towards em and disband lol. Atleast Chevs seems more reliable. Dunno bout Malta.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 01:02:50 pm: Quote from: CountBerenger on October 04, 2012, 11:34:18 am
Lmao Papal just disbanded and fled from Samarra. Seriously Hosp. You picked shitty vassals who could possibly be cheaters/glitch abusers.

And even though they're glitch abusers/cheaters they're cowards too abandoning their post! This is gold.

Why are you all saying that we cheat. We are all saying that Strat has some bug. I had like 49 mil troops one week ago and it's ok. Maybe my 4k population is from this glitch. I disbanded Papal Guard because John disbanded and I was about to leave. I was surprised because like you said, they all leave when we have problem. If chadz is online he could say it on the forum that it's was a bug and I said to him to delete this bug from my castle. Stop saying that the Papal Guard are cheater when it's a bug and you don't know us.

If I was Anders, I think I would do the samething to say this bug and post it on the forum. It's maybe a bug, or a glitch, but I give you my word; I didn't cheat.

-SaleHope
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: LordBerenger on October 04, 2012, 01:08:14 pm: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 01:02:50 pm
Why are you all saying that we cheat. We are all saying that Strat has some bug. I had like 49 mil. troops one week ago and it's ok. Maybe my 4k population from this glitch. I disbanded Papal Guard because John disbanded and I was about to leave. I was surprised because like you said, they all leave when we have a problem. If chadz is online he could say it on the forum that it's was a bug and I said to delete this bug on my castle. Stop saying that the Papal Guard are cheater when it's a bug and you don't know us.

If I was Anders, I think I would do the samething to say this bug. It's maybe a bug, or a glitch, but I give you my word; I didn't cheat.

-SaleHope

Well, who cares. Now Papal Guard is gone and disbanded and Samarra Castle is up for grabs but seems like Chevaliers will aim to take it.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Blackzilla on October 04, 2012, 02:09:26 pm: Samarra is in hero territory.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lordark on October 04, 2012, 03:17:45 pm: Quote from: DoD_Blackzilla on October 04, 2012, 02:09:26 pm
Samarra is in hero territory.

Dear Sister Sale,

Zounds like your castle is in danger.

Seek help from friends soon of you might loose it.

Regards,
Lordark
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 04, 2012, 05:04:03 pm: Quote from: Florent48 on October 04, 2012, 01:02:50 pm
Why are you all saying that we cheat. We are all saying that Strat has some bug. I had like 49 mil troops one week ago and it's ok. Maybe my 4k population is from this glitch. I disbanded Papal Guard because John disbanded and I was about to leave. I was surprised because like you said, they all leave when we have problem. If chadz is online he could say it on the forum that it's was a bug and I said to him to delete this bug from my castle. Stop saying that the Papal Guard are cheater when it's a bug and you don't know us.

If I was Anders, I think I would do the samething to say this bug and post it on the forum. It's maybe a bug, or a glitch, but I give you my word; I didn't cheat.

-SaleHope

but why no bug report? Oh well, strat's getting a fix now, so it's all good. Though several battles i did yesterday are now null cause of this. Wish people would just play the game right rather than find ways to get stuff for free.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Spanish on October 04, 2012, 06:27:36 pm: Quote from: Lordark on October 04, 2012, 03:17:45 pm
Dear Sister Sale,

Zounds like your castle is in danger.

Seek help from friends soon of you might loose it.

Regards,
Lordark

Don't give it to lordark he can't even spell lose right! Geif me all your fief so I can has purple text :D
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 04, 2012, 06:35:29 pm: Quote from: Spanish on October 04, 2012, 06:27:36 pm
Don't give it to lordark he can't even spell lose right! Geif me all your fief so I can has purple text :D

She's got a Loose castle after all. What difference does it make?
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Rikthor on October 04, 2012, 07:25:17 pm: Can this castle be locked down or have it's population reset to 1000. It's not really right anyone can possibly attack it now and get a free 4000 pop castle.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 04, 2012, 08:00:45 pm: Quote from: Rikthor on October 04, 2012, 07:25:17 pm
Can this castle be locked down or have it's population reset to 1000. It's not really right anyone can possibly attack it now and get a free 4000 pop castle.

if anyone attacks it, and no defense, then castle gets set to 100. If sale has people show up for defence, THEN they get the 4k pop.
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Rikthor on October 04, 2012, 08:42:27 pm: Quote from: Lt_Anders on October 04, 2012, 08:00:45 pm
if anyone attacks it, and no defense, then castle gets set to 100. If sale has people show up for defence, THEN they get the 4k pop.

If no gear has been bought and Sale doesn't hire people, will the AI auto-hire mercs and get the free peasant gear?
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 04, 2012, 08:59:20 pm: Yes
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Weewum on October 04, 2012, 09:28:30 pm: Please, note we haven't disbanded, we are going through a bit of conflict, but will soon be back up, (Maybe with a different name)
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Valdian on October 05, 2012, 01:53:07 am: I guess there still is bugs, I told sister from the start to keep raising population up. Ive talked to him about this he said he didnt use anything to get it to raise up but it automaticly went up when he was putting troops into pop
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Valdian on October 05, 2012, 01:54:13 am: The castle has already been claimed as well it will be given to Chevalier
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Kirbyy on October 05, 2012, 03:13:44 am: Quote from: Hospitaller_Valdian on October 05, 2012, 01:54:13 am
The castle has already been claimed as well it will be given to Chevalier

Have fun telling Hero party that.. They're attacking as we speak.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battledetail&id=493
Title: Re: Papal Guard glitch abusing?
Post by: Blackzilla on October 05, 2012, 03:16:28 am: I'm no diplomat but its in the middle of our territory. It will complete our look and I'm sure we will be happy.