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Title: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: chaosegg on April 15, 2011, 10:30:56 am
Could we please have the NA siege server MOTD/rules/server-join-note thingie updated
to say something to the effect of "no magical ladders that rest on nothing are allowed"?
Thanks! <3 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Polobow on April 15, 2011, 07:04:17 pm
Good suggestion.

But yeah, i hate it sometimes too. Don't think it will happen though.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 15, 2011, 07:08:19 pm
Thiis would be great, because it is actually against the new server rules, so the in-game blurb needs to be updated to avoid further confusion.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Tungsten on April 16, 2011, 07:13:26 am
It's in there

No ladder towers/air towers.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 16, 2011, 07:49:00 am
Does one ladder constitute an air tower or does that refer to multiple ladder stacking?
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 16, 2011, 08:19:32 am
Does one ladder constitute an air tower or does that refer to multiple ladder stacking?

Placing a ladder on another ladder.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Nindur on April 16, 2011, 05:01:40 pm
THe message was updated a few days ago :/
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 16, 2011, 05:13:34 pm
THe message was updated a few days ago :/

We are time travelers, only explanation.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 17, 2011, 01:02:45 am
         
           oD/
           A/
           /   
     I   /
     I /
     I/              So I just wanted to know if this is legal...  I's = a wall, or corner of a wall
    /I                                                                           / = the ladder
  /  I                                                                           oD
                                                                                 A      = me with my xbow :)                                                                           
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Digglez on April 17, 2011, 01:04:54 am
So any ladder that is planted on ground is ok, right?

I often use the ladders inside keeps to bridge chokepoint gaps.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 17, 2011, 02:24:02 am
         
           oD/
           A/
           /   
     I   /
     I /
     I/              So I just wanted to know if this is legal...  I's = a wall, or corner of a wall
    /I                                                                           / = the ladder
  /  I                                                                           oD
                                                                                 A      = me with my xbow :)                                                                           

Yes.  :)
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 17, 2011, 11:50:59 pm
So just to clairify, since some (non admin) players have told me it was against the rules, I can throw up a single ladder against a low object or wall corner, just to climb to the top of the ladder and get a better firing angle. I'm therefore not using the ladder to get over a wall, just to get up higher to shoot and avoid cav.  I do this all the time, have not be kicked or banned ever for it, but recently some people are saying I'm breaking the rules.  If so, I think we must be reading different rules...
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Baron_Settmour on April 17, 2011, 11:55:11 pm
So just to clairify, since some (non admin) players have told me it was against the rules, I can throw up a single ladder against a low object or wall corner, just to climb to the top of the ladder and get a better firing angle. I'm therefore not using the ladder to get over a wall, just to get up higher to shoot and avoid cav.  I do this all the time, have not be kicked or banned ever for it, but recently some people are saying I'm breaking the rules.  If so, I think we must be reading different rules...

This has been said by admins in-game repeatedly, "You cannot make sky ladders, floating ladders, 'archer towers' or anything of the same animal." In other words, no, you cannot use a ladder as an archer's perch.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 18, 2011, 12:04:18 am
So if I throw a ladder up to get on a roof, I'm not allowed to shoot from the ladder itself if it sticks up higher than the roof?  I'm not trying to be a pain with these questions, but the written rules need to be more detailed. In-game warning by admins - (which i have not seen) about rules which are not written anywhere lead to confusion... I swear I don't think people will be happy until ranged players have to die at the mere sight of an enemy and are only allowed to tickle the other team.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Baron_Settmour on April 18, 2011, 12:30:11 am
So if I throw a ladder up to get on a roof, I'm not allowed to shoot from the ladder itself if it sticks up higher than the roof?  I'm not trying to be a pain with these questions, but the written rules need to be more detailed. In-game warning by admins - (which i have not seen) about rules which are not written anywhere lead to confusion... I swear I don't think people will be happy until ranged players have to die at the mere sight of an enemy and are only allowed to tickle the other team.

How damn specific do you want them to be? If the ladder is not possible in the real world, it shouldn't be done in-game. Jesus Christ on a crutch, use some common sense.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 18, 2011, 12:44:43 am
Well considering the rules concerning ladders posted at crpgna.com.nu only say "Yes you can use ladders to locate on rooftops to archery from, however, once players on rooftops are last on map they must come down to accessible levels for melee less they are already accessible." and "no ladderpulting", I would like them to be more specific... And you don't need to be a dick about this, I'm trying to understand the rules so I can follow them
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Airith on April 18, 2011, 12:46:28 am
Use ladders for getting from a-b, don't stand on them. Do not stack ladders on another ladder. If the ladder won't work IRL, it's probably bad. Those rules are for another server, the NA siege/NA 80 man battle have slightly different rules than the NA 100 man battle.
Title: Re: NA siege rules/MOTD/join note re: 'sky-ladders'
Post by: Adam_Bomb on April 18, 2011, 01:00:31 am
Thank you for your non-dickish response Airith.
+1