But only if you make the top end greatswords and poles 2.5 or 3 slots.
I hate how a shielder/archer/crossbowman requires 3 slots to have top end equipment while poles and 2hers can have 2 top end weapons perfectly.
More 2hers and poles should be over 2 slots imo, regardless of this suggestion, which would not be bad at all.
A question: would 0 slot items become 0.5 or stay at 0?, or maybe some in each category?
Long maul - 3 Slots
Long Spear - 3 Slots
Long maul - 3 Slots
Long Spear - 3 Slots
Yes Nic, I know about those, but they are not the most used 2h/poles by far. I was referring to the greatswords (german or danish are sooo rarely used), and the poleaxes/axes/glaive, etc (not all of them though, maybe do it by length and weight together in some way (as weight AND length both affect the ease of using a weapon. It could be balanced a bit by increasing slightly the stats of the weapons that are about to become 3 slots, to compensate. This would also lead to more people using the second tier weapons, a nice thing that happens with 1hers but much less often with poles/2hers, just because the top tier ones are so much better with very few worse things.
@Cepeshi: According to the website, the only 3 slot 2her is the Great Maul, and the only 3 slot polearms are Pike, Long Spear and Long Maul..
Also I do not mind a guy being able to have a secondary mallet, I find it smart and useful for the team, but he should have to sacrifice a bit of his top end damage to do this imo. The specialization argument so used against my hybridising...
Yes Nic, I know about those, but they are not the most used 2h/poles by far. I was referring to the greatswords (german or danish are sooo rarely used), and the poleaxes/axes/glaive, etc (not all of them though, maybe do it by length and weight together in some way (as weight AND length both affect the ease of using a weapon. It could be balanced a bit by increasing slightly the stats of the weapons that are about to become 3 slots, to compensate. This would also lead to more people using the second tier weapons, a nice thing that happens with 1hers but much less often with poles/2hers, just because the top tier ones are so much better with very few worse things.Amen.
@Cepeshi: According to the website, the only 3 slot 2her is the Great Maul, and the only 3 slot polearms are Pike, Long Spear and Long Maul..
Also I do not mind a guy being able to have a secondary mallet, I find it smart and useful for the team, but he should have to sacrifice a bit of his top end damage to do this imo. The specialization argument so used against my hybridising...
EDIT: In short, make them have the same dillema I have when making a hybrid: a great one option, or two second tier for more versatility
Hardcore and mean suggestion :
All 2h above the HGS (included) + war cleaver, morningstar, bar mace, great axe, mallet and great bardiche : 2.5 slots
Flamberge and great maul : 3 slots
All poleaxes + glaive, GLA, GLB, swiss halberd, english bill, long voulge, pike, long spear and long maul : 3 slots
For the other polearms : length < 150 => 2 slots, others 2.5 slots
1h : all 1 slot except if length<95 and weight<2, then 0.5 slots.
For the other polearms : length < 150 => 2 slots, others 2.5 slots
Light Lance, Bamboo spear & others 2.5 slots? And no more hoplites with Ashwood and 2 slot shields...Remember that polearms only get the rear horses if they are 141 length or more. Presonally I want all the shorter spears to be 1 or 1.5 slots (since they cant rear horses).
I think it should be selected more by weight than length.
That might be a little bit too much, but its along the lines of what I would like.
Not sure about 1hers though, might be too high a treshold. (90 length and 1.5 weight might be better, things like nordic war sword, or some axes fit here i think, also niuweidao).
About 2hers, also bastards, katana, axe (under 2 weight) might be 1.5 slots.
About poles, ok mostly, not sure about the swiss halberd, but some should be 1.5, what about the boar spear, iron staff and maybe jousting lance?
Light Lance, Bamboo spear & others 2.5 slots? And no more hoplites with Ashwood and 2 slot shields...
I think it should be selected more by weight than length.
NO .5 slot shields as a hoplite or man at arms should never get a shield and lance and bastard sword in one package.Kafein did not suggest 0.5 shields, but 1.5, as an intermediate stage, compared to the current 1 to 2 jump.
I maintain however that light lance, spear, double sided lance and that kind of thing should be 1.5 slot. You could say balance over length. It would be more acceptable for bamboo spear to become 1.5 than ash-wood pike wouldn't it? I would leave decisions like that to the devs and hope they do the right thing by the community. The purpose is to open new pathways in character design and to try to make the game better.
Remember if x-bows, hybrid-archers and hybrid-cav become a larger threat it in melee polearm and 2H will suffer without any mechanics changing.
Was going to post this the other day and decided it was a dumb idea and didn't bother. But now I'm going to bother *shrug*
So, instead of 1.5 slot weapons, how about just keep the numbers rounded. Double the amount of available slots to 8 then redo all the current slots for weapons. So if a weapon is 2 slots currently it would then be bumped to 4 slots. This way a 3 slot weapon would be the currently proposed 1.5 slot weapon. I dunno, I just like round numbers more than decimals.
i wont be happy until i can carry a great maul, flamberge, pike and a siege ladder all at once again
I want a damned chadz opinion ffs. chadz you dog show your face.
Unrealist things make this mod worst. Like slot thing. well, the general idea of this thread maybe good for some players but I mean the whole slot thing. Why cannot a man carry a bow, some arrows, a shield and a lance? why? only reason can be the weakness of the person, not having no enough slots. That makes me laugh :mrgreen: Dat slot thing, hahaa
Yeah fuck realism. Give plate armour and armoured horses their realistic prowess!
Fucking hell -.-