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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Bjord on September 23, 2012, 09:17:12 pm

Title: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 23, 2012, 09:17:12 pm
Simple idea:

You join the duel server, press ESC and select "Groups".
 A new menu unfolds with options such as:

"Create Group"
"Set Group Password/PIN"
"Set Max Group Members"
"Enable/Disable PvP"
"Set Neutral/Hostile" (against certain groups)
"Enable/Disable Free for All Mode" (death match for all members of the group against each other that enabled FFA)
"Enable/Disable Elimination" (temporarily removes you from the group upon dying until only one or none members are alive)
"Enable/Disable Single Tournament Mode" (All members of the group are first shuffled, then pitted against each other 1 by 1)
"Enable/Disable Group Tournament Mode" (makes your group eligible to battle other groups with a point system or with elimination)

Areas of Usage:

-Community Events such as tournaments, cups
-Adds deathmatch possibility without creating a new game mode
-Adds more fun to Duel mode
-Educational purposes like Training sessions for clans etc

Apart from obvious things like "It's going to be very time consuming to code", what are your thoughts? Additional ideas? Concerns?

:)
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Weewum on September 23, 2012, 09:23:07 pm
tl;dr
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 24, 2012, 12:09:43 am
Quote from: Weewum on September 23, 2012, 09:23:07 pm
tl;dr

Come on, the amount of text is minimal. You can't seriously blame me for your attention span. :lol:
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 24, 2012, 12:13:06 am
Quote from: Weewum on September 23, 2012, 09:23:07 pm
tl;dr
So, you make a post saying you're too ADHD to read a sentence or two? Congratulations on that, I for one feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 24, 2012, 12:19:36 am
All that I know is that I want the ability to fight at least 4 people at once.

If that was coded I probably wouldn't even play any other game-modes anymore.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 24, 2012, 12:30:28 am
Quote from: TurmoilTom on September 24, 2012, 12:19:36 am
All that I know is that I want the ability to fight at least 4 people at once.

If that was coded I probably wouldn't even play any other game-modes anymore.

I thought carefully about the features to accommodate many possibilites and creative combinations.

It's still limited, but if this was implemented you could do any number of x vs x. You could even have 10-man free for alls, gladiator style. A last man standing set-up, basically.

Imagine the excitement. :)
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on September 24, 2012, 02:59:20 am
I like it.
I don't duel that much, but it'd really show actual teamwork and skill rather than who can hiltslash/lolstab who with their longsword.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 24, 2012, 11:22:11 am
I duel a lot, and I usually get bored very quickly. I hope this gets implemented because then I'd really enjoy my time on duel mode.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Tibe on September 24, 2012, 11:40:51 am
I cant man, I just cant. :D

Your ideas are awesome and i would love to see it happen but......

WHO IS GONNA CODE IT ALL????

Seems like craploads of more work than its worth. Duel is cool and everything and id like to see those requests come to real, but I dont think dueling and this predicted and picked fights are something this game is really about. Thou the autobalance in battle sucks, id still say the only thing that really shows skills is battle. Cause you can be god in duel, it doesnt matter and is useless when you walk like a blindman in battle and get too nervous to block anything since bolts and arrows keep flying over your head and a polearmguy is swinging at you and you keep accidentally smashing your teammates or getting in the way.

Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 11:46:49 am
Quote from: Bjord on September 24, 2012, 12:30:28 am
I thought carefully about the features to accommodate many possibilites and creative combinations.

It's still limited, but if this was implemented you could do any number of x vs x. You could even have 10-man free for alls, gladiator style. A last man standing set-up, basically.

Imagine the excitement. :)

Me like.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:00:38 pm
Quote from: Bjord on September 23, 2012, 09:17:12 pm

Apart from obvious things like "It's going to be very time consuming to code", what are your thoughts? Additional ideas? Concerns?


Quote from: TiberiusX on September 24, 2012, 11:40:51 am

WHO IS GONNA CODE IT ALL????


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Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Moncho on September 24, 2012, 12:08:53 pm
Nice idea.
Maybe also reserve a small area (depending on the size of the group, never more than half the map), could be done by splitting ruins into 10-12 areas and then groups choosing one of them. This is mostly to avoid randomers getting in the way and trolling.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:14:22 pm
Remove HA track, make that a big melee arena and we got a real duel map.

Reserve small melee aren for fights 6players+


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Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Tibe on September 24, 2012, 12:22:49 pm
Quote from: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:00:38 pm
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Hot damn you funny bro. Clearly you read things only in big red. And should I also copy the part of the rules which state no doubleposting and put that pic under it? Clearly you missed the whole point. Which was that it seems like incredible ammounts of codinghours for a gamemode that has like 20 players and the only reason even they are there is to train for the gamemodes what really make this game popular. Exept the pointsystem, were people litterally rage over loosing e-peen. The main focus on this game is still siege and battle. Duel is kinda secondary, like capture the flag etc. Like I said, the idea is great, but I dont see the point of it. Mybe make a completely new gamemode or something.

And PS, you dont have to be an ass about it, if you disagree.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on September 24, 2012, 12:26:52 pm
Quote from: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:00:38 pm
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Bwaaaaahahahaha! This made my day, I could print this out and stick it to the faces of all my collegues at work and wouldnt realize any difference! :lol: Oh the fun and joy this picture brings to me!
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:30:07 pm
Quote from: TiberiusX on September 24, 2012, 12:22:49 pm
Hot damn you funny bro. Clearly you read things only in big red. And should I also copy the part of the rules which state no doubleposting and put that pic under it? Clearly you missed the whole point. Which was that it seems like incredible ammounts of codinghours for a gamemode that has like 20 players and the only reason even they are there is to train for the gamemodes what really make this game popular. The main focus on this game is still siege and battle. Duel is kinda secondary, like capture the flag etc. Like I said, the idea is great, but I dont see the point of it. Mybe make a completely new gamemode or something.

Making a new gamemode will require even more coding, and creates another secondary gamemode to spread those few players over that don't play siege/battle so much, making them more underpopulated.

Seeing the huge amount of players aiming to get a bigger epeen by scoring high in the duel list it is more then the 20 players you say. The fact that its less popular doesn't mean you shouldn't care about it. Apart from the duel ranking thing not much has been dont for duelling in a long time, id say it deserves some improvement.

Edit, i was serious, i can count to potato, was no joke:
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Edit: i used edit instead of double posting.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Tibe on September 24, 2012, 12:36:21 pm
Quote from: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 12:30:07 pm
...... it deserves some improvement.

Sounds like a pretty big leap to me.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 24, 2012, 12:43:23 pm
I was actually also thinking about making a duel map, with 4 areas and a central spawn. Melee arena, Horse track(arena with a jousting area somewhere in the middle or to the sides), Archery range and a big grass plain for mixed fights, with some ruins and cover here and there, for larger groups etc.

A central spawn with equal distance to all 4 areas and easily accessible routes to all 4 areas, would make it way more smoother for everyone to navigate. Compare this concept to what we have now, just Ruins basically and really stupid spawns.

I have a few more ideas:

Members of groups will always spawn on other members or on the first one who spawns (for example in elimination, you will get temporarily removed from the group or your name gets greyed out and you won't spawn until either there's only one player remaining or your group has been wiped out in for example Group Tournament mode).

This removes the nuisance of always spawning in the central area (and also decreases the amount of lazy morons who duel in the central spawn) and having to run back to where you died. Ultimately, Harald could make a code that prevents dueling anywhere but the 4 areas.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Joker86 on September 24, 2012, 03:17:42 pm
Bjord,
you have my subbjord.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 25, 2012, 08:47:56 pm
Thanks, Joker.

Also, bump.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2012, 08:54:35 pm
Ser ut som du fikk bruk for hjernen din  :lol:
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 25, 2012, 08:57:33 pm
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2012, 08:54:35 pm
Ser ut som du fikk bruk for hjernen din  :lol:

Till skillnad från dig, då? :wink:
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 25, 2012, 09:06:48 pm
Quote from: Bjord on September 25, 2012, 08:57:33 pm
Till skillnad från dig, då? :wink:

 :cry:
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: HarunYahya on September 25, 2012, 11:58:44 pm
I just read group fights and gave +.
I hope the rest is not something like add lightsabers give throwing 3rd mode for greatswords and add unicorns etc...
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 26, 2012, 12:02:00 am
Quote from: koyama on September 25, 2012, 11:58:44 pm
I just read group fights and gave +.
I hope the rest is not something like add lightsabers give throwing 3rd mode for greatswords and add unicorns etc...

I assure you, no.

But really, zeka fakiri, read the rest.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bobthehero on September 26, 2012, 12:14:02 am
Quote from: Joker86 on September 24, 2012, 03:17:42 pm
Bjord,
you have my subbjord.

ts;dr
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: OssumPawesome on September 26, 2012, 12:58:13 pm
I believe we refer to these in-game groups as "clans"

nobutsrsly - i think some events to do some of the things you mentioned here would be great, but it sounds like you want a lot of coding to implement a feature that is like 80 percent solved by clans and events on the forums.

what I think would be cooler and simpler was if there was some way to reserve a server for an event and do things like sell tickets etc from the website.  run it like a strat battle on na and eu 3.

get your tournaments and such without having to sell off a bunch of stones for tickets and other weird workarounds.
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Joseph Porta on September 26, 2012, 03:13:17 pm
I never duel, i mean néver, because it's boring. I think this would certainly make it more appealing for me to join EU3.

Yes, please. :)
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on September 26, 2012, 08:01:35 pm
Quote from: OssumPawesome on September 26, 2012, 12:58:13 pm
I believe we refer to these in-game groups as "clans"

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Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: Bjord on October 04, 2012, 02:07:20 am
Bump
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: witchkunold on April 30, 2014, 11:10:03 am
bump!
Title: Re: [DUEL MODE ADDONS] Group system for group fights and more
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 30, 2014, 01:30:33 pm
The necros just keep getting older and older ...