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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: DaveUKR on September 23, 2012, 08:35:04 am

Title: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: DaveUKR on September 23, 2012, 08:35:04 am
I suggest to make some ways to use Strat ticks. It's the early start of the strat but I already have 700+ unused strat ticks (I can stop playing crpg for 350+ hours still having an ability to gain gold or recruit troops and that's more than 2 weeks). My basic suggestions:

1) Make it so that upkeeping a travelling army requires not only gold but strategus ticks aswell. (>101 troops - 0 ticks per hour, 101-500 - 1 tick per hour, and 1 tick for every next 250 troops, 501-750 - 2 ticks, 751-1000 - 3 ticks, 1001-1250 - 4 ticks etc.) So upkeeping an army of 1000 would require 78 ticks each day (when you travel), not that much, mb you'll have a better idea for calculation.

2) Make Quick March using ticks. Something like 50 ticks.

3) Make a possibility to gain double gold/troops for 5 ticks per hour.

And maybe something more. These are just ways to use strat ticks. cRPG definitely needs to benefit those who play.

//Discuss
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Nessaj on September 23, 2012, 09:12:35 am
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Strategus Ticks Left: 139

Not bad ideas but I personally wouldn't want hardcore grinding as a requirement for Strategus. I like that you don't need to play 24/7.

However a few more options rather than simply generating troops/gold would be good, there certainly is room for a balanced approach.

Making Quick March use ticks could be an idea.

In general there are plenty of small features that could utilize ticks, because it would make people less prone to just "do it" and instead slightly think about their actions.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Lordark on September 23, 2012, 09:34:53 am
your TICKING me off  :oops:
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Taser on September 24, 2012, 04:52:38 am
I'd be up for that. I can stop playing for almost 3 weeks and still be fine.

It'd be nice if strat ticks had another use other than getting troops/gold every hour for 1 tick.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2012, 07:55:25 am
Disagree. The whole point of slow strat ticks consumption is that grinders don't have an advantage over people who play cRPG casually. Keep it as it is.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Haboe on September 24, 2012, 10:08:30 am
I like the idea for quickmarch costing ticks. Its a small advantage, usefull in many situations but not critical.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Tibe on September 24, 2012, 11:16:18 am
Im kinda with Vibe on this.

Thou your ideas aint bad at all, theres no point of being a mean and giving people who play the mod 24/7 a clear advantage, cause we all got moments when we cant play the mod for like weeks. And it would suck loging in after a big break and suddenly seeing your adversary being suddenly godlike since you just lacked time and the other guy didnt have anything better to do.

Ticksystem should really be only used to keep away ghostaccounts.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: dodnet on September 24, 2012, 11:48:11 am
No. I play a lot and have 374 ticks left. Making everything cost ticks will only benefit grinders. Leave it as it is.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: DaveUKR on September 24, 2012, 01:18:10 pm
Disagree. The whole point of slow strat ticks consumption is that grinders don't have an advantage over people who play cRPG casually. Keep it as it is.

The thing is you can't call someone who plays more than 48 minutes/day a grinder. Why did I suggest this? Because it will make Strat difficult for multiaccount users (I know many of them, but I won't give any names), now it's not really difficult. People should not have that big amount of exceeding ticks because with the current system it will end like the strat before - I haven't played crpg for months and still had thousands of exceeding Strat ticks.

Regular active cRPG player spends at least 14 hours/week and that's 2.5 times more than 48 minutes/day.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Vovka on September 24, 2012, 01:20:05 pm
Omg woot!

JUST:
stop playing crpg for 350+ h

or add this:  Post topic on forum take off 100 ticks from strat  :P
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: DaveUKR on September 24, 2012, 01:37:39 pm
Omg woot!

JUST:
or add this:  Post topic on forum take off 100 ticks from strat  :P

U mad?:D
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2012, 01:42:48 pm
The thing is you can't call someone who plays more than 48 minutes/day a grinder. Why did I suggest this? Because it will make Strat difficult for multiaccount users (I know many of them, but I won't give any names), now it's not really difficult. People should not have that big amount of exceeding ticks because with the current system it will end like the strat before - I haven't played crpg for months and still had thousands of exceeding Strat ticks.

Regular active cRPG player spends at least 14 hours/week and that's 2.5 times more than 48 minutes/day.

So you want to fight multiaccounters by making everyone grind more for maximum efficiency? You do realize that some people play less than an hour a day? Sorry, but what you suggested is just not the right way.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: DaveUKR on September 24, 2012, 01:50:02 pm
So you want to fight multiaccounters by making everyone grind more for maximum efficiency? You do realize that some people play less than an hour a day? Sorry, but what you suggested is just not the right way.

It doesn't give any kind of big benefits of what I suggested. I don't find it fair that someone who is not playing crpg (read semi-dead clans with inactive players, ghost accounts etc) can be as efficient in strat as someone who is playing it.

I earned those ticks why can't I spend them?
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2012, 02:09:47 pm
It doesn't give any kind of big benefits of what I suggested. I don't find it fair that someone who is not playing crpg (read semi-dead clans with inactive players, ghost accounts etc) can be as efficient in strat as someone who is playing it.

I earned those ticks why can't I spend them?

All 3 you suggested provide a significant advantage to the "grinder", specially the #3. Someone who is not playing cRPG is going to run out of ticks fairly fast, so you can't AFK and be as efficient (aka craft goods) anymore.
Why should people who have more time to play have an advantage? Not that you don't have a few already, in terms of higher level / more cRPG practice skill-wise.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: DaveUKR on September 24, 2012, 02:18:14 pm
All 3 you suggested provide a significant advantage to the "grinder", specially the #3. Someone who is not playing cRPG is going to run out of ticks fairly fast, so you can't AFK and be as efficient (aka craft goods) anymore.
Why should people who have more time to play have an advantage? Not that you don't have a few already, in terms of higher level / more cRPG practice skill-wise.

Vibe, you can't craft goods AT ALL in this strategus. They removed it. Only thing you can use your ticks for are getting +1 troop each hour or get 10gold/hour. Ticks can't be used for anything else.

Why should people who have more time to play have an advantage? You serious? Ask the same question in the other way. Why others should not have the advantage over people who don't play at all? You can buy goods, you can sell goods, you can move on the map, you can trade, you can do EVERYTHING without playing a single minute. You only can't get +1 troop each hour (well, 24 troops each day is nothing) and you can't get 240 strat gold each day (srsly? 240 gold is nothing aswell, it's ~ a price of 1 arbalest in strat). While those who play cRPG can only get ONE of these things (you either gain troops or gold)
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2012, 02:36:19 pm
Vibe, you can't craft goods AT ALL in this strategus. They removed it.

I know you can't, I said that.

Why should people who have more time to play have an advantage? You serious? Ask the same question in the other way. Why others should not have the advantage over people who don't play at all?

Why are you constantly saying "people that don't play at all". Those that don't play don't play, simple as that. They don't gain anything, neither do they contribute in Strategus.

You can buy goods, you can sell goods, you can move on the map, you can trade, you can do EVERYTHING without playing a single minute.

Without ever playing a minute of cRPG, but you need to play Strategus. As it should be, it is a different game after all.

You only can't get +1 troop each hour (well, 24 troops each day is nothing) and you can't get 240 strat gold each day (srsly? 240 gold is nothing aswell, it's ~ a price of 1 arbalest in strat). While those who play cRPG can only get ONE of these things (you either gain troops or gold)

Good, but all of this can be solved another way, without promoting more grind for maximum eff. For example double the gold/troops you get per tick.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 24, 2012, 06:17:00 pm
Well although the current system helps with ghost accounts, it's not fool proof.  If you have two accounts you need to only play for an hour on each to be able to have 2 fully functioning people in strat. 

And I don't think I should be able to go afk for 3 weeks and come back to 500 troops or a few thousand gold.
Title: Re: Ways to use strategus ticks
Post by: Kalp on October 14, 2012, 08:36:28 pm
bump

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3) Make a possibility to gain double gold/troops for 5 ticks per hour.

I'm sitting in the village and I will sit there probably in future, what I will do with +1000 ticks ?