I would say never pass the 6 Power Draw mark
Are they viable? Anyone know a decent build? I know they would suck at range versus other archers but im thinking more like point blank-kiting bundle of sticksry and the such.
I'm going to say right now, there are some good points in this thread but a whole lot of awful ones.
I hope you understand the way the player base works as min-maxing have-to-have-best-build players. Thus the best way to have people stop being kiting archers is...
THEY WAY TO FIX KITING ARCHERS IS MAKE STRENGTH BUILD ARCHERY BETTER THAN AGI KITING ARCHERY AT KILLIN' THEM DUDES.
Currently, strength archery has 0 zero benefits over agility stacking 6 PD archery. But, what about the damage? surely strength archery does tons more currently?! It doesn't. Shik and I did some archery testing and damage comparisons between his 30/15 10 PD archer and my 18/27 Agi archer. He only does more damage than me at distances less than 20 M, and he only does barely more damage.
I'll say that again. His 10 PD longbow barely out damages my 6 PD longbow at close range, but at 20M + distance our damage is equivalent. You wouldn't know which one of us hit you if we didn't tell you.(click to show/hide)
Okay, so Strength archery is... equivalent damage at pretty much all ranges archers shoot from.
Except he Is slower. He is inaccurate (horribly inaccurate). His bow draws slower. He is worse at everything involving archery compared to my build.
In fact, the ONLY benefit his 10 PD build has is that he has a few more hitpoints from his strength!
Garbage. I would never do an archer over 6 PD under any circumstance under this system. OF COURSE everyone is a kiting agility archer. Seriously guys, looking at the situation all wrong :). The solution is to encourage people to not be kiting awfuls, not by heavily nerfing them, but by making something other than it viable.
I believe the solution to this is a minor nerf in damage for agility archers ( ME. I WANT TO NERF ME.) but keep the super accuracy agility archers have.
The next part is to buff the damage output of strength archers to where they should be in damage. A 10 PD longbow should be an inaccurate but high damaging cannon. Not an inaccurate same-damage-as-me.Fix.(click to show/hide)
This is so depressing - i come back 9 months later and find out I need to respec my level 35 archer 27-18 with 9 powerdraw because extra powerdraw and strength give no benefits but add problems. Not sure why the change - agility-kiting archers have always been the problem for people not high strength/damage archers. Seems a mistake was made in the calculations somewhere.If you can get one of those things in the auction place to respec without losing EXP to stay at 35, Totally do it.
Should have more shoot speed, damage, and range but less accuracy, reload speed, kiting ability. Not sure where developers lost that understanding of balance.
Should I go 18-27 now with 9 athletics??
If you can get one of those things in the auction place to respec without losing EXP to stay at 35, Totally do it.
But don't respec at level 35 to level 34...
I'm now lower level but now I am having Fun which is the entire point of this game.
If infantry would make an effort in guarding archers they would not be forced to make coward-builds. When I see familiar archers ingame I'm trying to stay with them and hold off cav with my long spear. Usually works when the archer uses the teamwork (Merc_Pejlaen, Silicium, ...). Works to a limited degree also vs. inf.It has nothing to do with making 'coward' builds.