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Title: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Harpag on September 14, 2012, 11:44:19 am
Don't touch Greysland, otherwise we will cut off your filthy fingers :twisted:

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Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: rufio on September 14, 2012, 11:53:59 am
thats pretty harsh comming from peace loving monks  :P
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2012, 12:10:10 pm
you UIF guys really know how to make start fun!! (<------- Insert a lot of sarcasm here)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Latvian on September 14, 2012, 12:25:00 pm
druzhina+ union+ greys again? or can we hope for some badass action ?  :o
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Strudog on September 14, 2012, 12:26:21 pm
yep, UIF will be the same for every strat
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Thovex on September 14, 2012, 12:46:43 pm
No credits for my map?!

Damn it Harpag I'm dissapointed.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 14, 2012, 12:50:06 pm
I'm going to raid your lousy villages, plunder your castles and rape your women and make your men turn into spermless men, also free cupcakes on fridays.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on September 14, 2012, 12:51:11 pm
whole map should be coloured as druzhinas red, grey orders grey and unions purple. 8-)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Thovex on September 14, 2012, 12:56:17 pm
No credits for my map?!

Damn it Harpag I'm dissapointed.

I retract my post, I approve of this thread!

And good luck in strat!  :P
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 14, 2012, 04:05:13 pm
the same claim again? Damn, you have absolutely no originality. I hope your whole clan gets put on the NA/EU border.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 14, 2012, 05:44:06 pm
druzhina+ union+ greys again? or can we hope for some badass action ?  :o

+nords, + LL, +barlas, +STR

Who am I forgetting?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Latvian on September 14, 2012, 05:54:30 pm
I offer grey order to unite under vassalage of deserters!
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: arowaine on September 15, 2012, 02:37:54 am
good luck grey
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Goretooth on September 15, 2012, 03:13:25 am
100 cd-key users UNITE!
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Jarlek on September 15, 2012, 04:10:58 am
+nords, + LL, +barlas, +STR

Who am I forgetting?
LL?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 15, 2012, 06:05:55 am
LL?

Lost legion....The original clan before cross.

He probably ment Legio Italica or w/e they are called, if they still exist.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: okiN on September 15, 2012, 01:17:08 pm
100 cd-key users UNITE!

The irony here is that you're from a clan that legit cheated in the previous round, and everyone knows it.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on September 15, 2012, 03:25:02 pm
The irony here is that you're from a clan that legit cheated in the previous round, and everyone knows it.
Served
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Blackzilla on September 15, 2012, 05:25:17 pm
+nords, + LL, +barlas, +STR

Who am I forgetting?
Nords are going their own separate way, STR= Union , Barlas is part of the empire. I don't know who LL is.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Segd on September 15, 2012, 05:36:34 pm
3-4 clans in UIF block. Gather 5-10 & fuck us already plz :)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Latvian on September 15, 2012, 05:58:49 pm
those 3-4 clans make like half of serious strategus players, just saying
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: DaveUKR on September 15, 2012, 06:00:33 pm
3-4 clans in UIF block. Gather 5-10 & fuck us already plz :)

According to the crpg website. UIF + friendly factions of UIF officially has: 593 warband cd-keys. Including Nords and their vassals: 703 warband cd-keys. Even if you gather all the other EU clans - there will be no such number :D
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Kalp on September 15, 2012, 06:05:14 pm
Usually half of our clan is not active  :rolleyes:

Relax
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Segd on September 15, 2012, 06:18:07 pm
According to the crpg website. UIF + friendly factions of UIF officially has: 593 warband cd-keys. Including Nords and their vassals: 703 warband cd-keys. Even if you gather all the other EU clans - there will be no such number :D
chadz will ban half. Nords will go separate way.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Cicero on September 15, 2012, 06:23:47 pm
According to the crpg website. UIF + friendly factions of UIF officially has: 593 warband cd-keys. Including Nords and their vassals: 703 warband cd-keys. Even if you gather all the other EU clans - there will be no such number :D
l2m dave ; if you guys dont hate each other that much and not be egomaniac its totally easy to outnumber us

templar 127
fallen 106
hre 90
kapıkulu 64 (how the fuck =) )
merc 63
deserters 54
gk 45
Crusader Knights_Bauers 68
peacebreakers 23
total : 640

grey order 157
druzhina 105
union 97
bashibazouk(69) + barlas (26)  95
total : 454

what happened to ur math dave?
We just experienced teamwork alliance and you guys cant even handle it.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: arowaine on September 15, 2012, 08:01:30 pm
good work cicero you know how to do math compare to dav :)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Rebelyell on September 15, 2012, 08:32:04 pm

i found game and forum boring last time....
and harpag posted that yay

l2m dave ; if you guys dont hate each other that much and not be egomaniac its totally easy to outnumber us

templar 127
fallen 106
hre 90
kapıkulu 64 (how the fuck =) )
merc 63
deserters 54
gk 45
Crusader Knights_Bauers 68
peacebreakers 23
total : 640

grey order 157
druzhina 105
union 97
bashibazouk(69) + barlas (26)  95
total : 454

what happened to ur math dave?
We just experienced teamwork alliance and you guys cant even handle it.
ok now my arguments
1) kapikulu
2) no one know how many players is active in clan, and thust me if there is 30 active templars atm its awesome news
3) e-pen measurementragemode activate: you suck

4)where are  nords with gifs? QQ
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Latvian on September 15, 2012, 08:41:49 pm
i found game and forum boring last time....
and harpag posted that yay
ok now my arguments
1) kapikulu
2) no one know how many players is active in clan, and thust me if there is 30 active templars atm its awesome news
3) e-pen measurementragemode activate: you suck

4)where are  nords with gifs? QQ
   lol 1st one
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Cicero on September 15, 2012, 08:45:33 pm
i found game and forum boring last time....
and harpag posted that yay
ok now my arguments
1) kapikulu
2) no one know how many players is active in clan, and thust me if there is 30 active templars atm its awesome news
3) e-pen measurementragemode activate: you suck

4)where are  nords with gifs? QQ
well i didnt really give a real info i just answered daveUKR because he was gettin his source from the same data with me =)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: HardRice on September 15, 2012, 11:06:20 pm
Strat drama before strat even starts.


Bravo, friends.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: DaveUKR on September 15, 2012, 11:12:49 pm
l2m dave ; if you guys dont hate each other that much and not be egomaniac its totally easy to outnumber us

templar 127
fallen 106
hre 90
kapıkulu 64 (how the fuck =) )
merc 63
deserters 54
gk 45
Crusader Knights_Bauers 68
peacebreakers 23
total : 640

grey order 157
druzhina 105
union 97
bashibazouk(69) + barlas (26)  95
total : 454

what happened to ur math dave?
We just experienced teamwork alliance and you guys cant even handle it.

Who are Crusader Knights? Such a big clan but I don't know them and didn't see more than 1-2 members. And Mercs are separate clan you know, not an anti-UIF coaltion because it's against our prior principles. The only reason why mercs were against UIF is because the whole UIF attacked Mercs lol :D Deserters, I've never seen them on strat map. Fallens also have a particular NA clan section. I also counted 22nds, as they were originally in UIF, their vassals Ninjas, Karluks, RS as they're on Druzhina's side, and all the other inactive clans like Looters, Legione Italica, Merciless.

There is not that much anti-UIF forces can do since there is no such thing as anti-UIF alliance, there are different factions which were merged together against UIF only because they had no other choice.

Mercs originally are not interested in such wars since our goal is to stay in our lands and do mercing for gold.

I just don't understand why Mercs should make a big alliance against UIF when we were attacked by UIF because we didn't want to be a part of it or give some lands to you? Do you really think that Mercs hate UIF? Most of them don't care about you :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Latvian on September 15, 2012, 11:29:36 pm
meh, those are clan members not strategus players from 54 deserter members we had like 12  of them playing strategus and like 5 were actice.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Cicero on September 15, 2012, 11:36:11 pm
Who are Crusader Knights? Such a big clan but I don't know them and didn't see more than 1-2 members. And Mercs are separate clan you know, not an anti-UIF coaltion because it's against our prior principles. The only reason why mercs were against UIF is because the whole UIF attacked Mercs lol :D Deserters, I've never seen them on strat map. Fallens also have a particular NA clan section. I also counted 22nds, as they were originally in UIF, their vassals Ninjas, Karluks, RS as they're on Druzhina's side, and all the other inactive clans like Looters, Legione Italica, Merciless.

There is not that much anti-UIF forces can do since there is no such thing as anti-UIF alliance, there are different factions which were merged together against UIF only because they had no other choice.

Mercs originally are not interested in such wars since our goal is to stay in our lands and do mercing for gold.

I just don't understand why Mercs should make a big alliance against UIF when we were attacked by UIF because we didn't want to be a part of it or give some lands to you? Do you really think that Mercs hate UIF? Most of them don't care about you :rolleyes:
Crusader Knights : http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=166

" They were very active in searching for allies and after a while they made a very successful Alliance whith Crusader Alliance, The Turks, Knights Hospitaller, The Coalition of Fallen and HRE. Their alliance seems to be very strong and they are allies even now."

Mercs are anti - UIF and i can give you many things that will proves this which is the info that merc_tyr is commanding battles for other factions.

Deserters are mainly puppet faction which im pretty sure and also the info is saying that will be part of Crusader alliance which they were applying for them as this we can understand also.

Don't forget that u were also particular NA clan so your thesis about fallen is totally failure.

22nd is dead for at least 6 months as same as ninjas which goes same for karluks also.

Im prety sure that RS is an independent native clan that plays crpg time to time and just a few of them dedicated druzhina member.

Merciless is no more

Looters is also no more and all of them joined mercs lol its so fucked up that u are giving them as an example
P.S : As far as i know those members that joined you was totally hated you and i was trying to fix that at strategus version 2.0 when i was talking with noctivagant in our ts and he told me that legio will apply for FCC because of a retarted situation happened between legio and mercs and they totally hate you. ( this is just an info )

Legio italica is totally same as looters lol

I always say this to you or another merc ; you made this position with your own hands and you totally care it =)


meh, those are clan members not strategus players from 54 deserter members we had like 12  of them playing strategus and like 5 were actice.

well i didnt really give a real info i just answered daveUKR because he was gettin his source from the same data with me =)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on September 15, 2012, 11:48:36 pm
Harpag, can I get praven if I'll give you 3 mw looms :?:
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Rebelyell on September 16, 2012, 12:37:57 am
Strat drama before strat even starts.


Bravo, friends.
Its why i am here dude.
I am waiting on for first guy thats go fullretard
or some master troll
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 16, 2012, 12:41:39 am
Deserters Bashis are mainly puppet faction
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 02:07:40 am
And Mercs are separate clan you know, not an anti-UIF coaltion because it's against our prior principles.
Well, this is not for you to decide which side you belong to :rolleyes: Your fate is already predetermined, so joining the anti-uif is the best way to spend good time in the Strat 4. Just saying  :wink:

This also applies for CA, Fallens&HRE & others. Gather together in good & big alliance or be vanished.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: okiN on September 16, 2012, 02:18:10 am
No DRZ reset this time, eh?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 02:31:09 am
No DRZ reset this time, eh?
Never reset, Neva 4get!  :P

Ninjas, Coconuts, Fallens, HRE, Templars, Pub Crawl, Mercs, BRD...

No one is forgotten :)


P.S. Not an official position, but just my wish to see Nords fighting UIF. More enemies with balls are always good for XP & fun.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: tizzango on September 16, 2012, 02:51:34 am
Are the new splinter faction 'Vargt' (sorry for spelling) allied with UIF? 

Or what's going on with them..
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Goretooth on September 16, 2012, 10:02:13 am
The irony here is that you're from a clan that legit cheated in the previous round, and everyone knows it.
lol your UIF overlords let you out to play?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Kalp on September 16, 2012, 10:28:50 am
Harpag, can I get praven if I'll give you 3 mw looms :?:
No, but you can get Gisim if you give me 3 mw looms  :D
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on September 16, 2012, 12:34:12 pm
I was going to create a large post arguing with you cicero, but I stop part way through and deleted it.

All I will say is that these past decisions and past hatreds were under different leadership, whether these decisions were right or wrong is up for debate. Tyr and I command now, and we will do what is in the best interest of our clan. Our 'position' as you put it, was given to us and not dealt by us, so tone down your hostility, it is needless. That goes for you, and the other people in UIF with such 'strong opinions', who feel the need to smear such opinions across the forum.

Anyways good luck greys, hope to see some good battles.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Nebun on September 16, 2012, 01:39:32 pm
I was going to create a large post arguing with you cicero, but I stop part way through and deleted it.

All I will say is that these past decisions and past hatreds were under different leadership, whether these decisions were right or wrong is up for debate. Tyr and I command now, and we will do what is in the best interest of our clan. Our 'position' as you put it, was given to us and not dealt by us, so tone down your hostility, it is needless. That goes for you, and the other people in UIF with such 'strong opinions', who feel the need to smear such opinions across the forum.

Anyways good luck greys, hope to see some good battles.

good luck Mercs
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: bagge on September 16, 2012, 02:00:47 pm
4)where are  nords with gifs? QQ

Evacuating the kittens from Samarra Castle

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Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Gryfita on September 16, 2012, 03:29:04 pm
Are the new splinter faction 'Vargt' (sorry for spelling) allied with UIF? 

Or what's going on with them..
Yep they are be vassals Grey Order :) very good  Players :)
http://forum.meleegaming.com/faction-halls/vargrs-%28vargr_-%29-ru-ua-clan/
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Xant on September 16, 2012, 05:21:05 pm
lol your UIF overlords let you out to play?

Sadly...

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Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Tovi on September 17, 2012, 11:49:12 am
Ehlerdah is our ! All Grey members are welcome, the monastery will provide them some equipment for free.

Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 17, 2012, 05:09:07 pm
The irony here is that you're from a clan that legit cheated in the previous round, and everyone knows it.

I didn't know Hospitallers cheated in the last strategus version.  Why wouldn't the devs punish cheaters? 
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: okiN on September 17, 2012, 05:46:05 pm
Presumably because having evidence which shows that cheating occurred isn't the same as having proof of the extent to which it did occur, and the names of those involved.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 17, 2012, 06:50:56 pm
What does that have to do with being a carebear and having 99% of the EU lands locked down with friends and allies who were never going to fight each other?  What about that exact scenario, plus AI fiefs existing and not being taken over, despite not having any real external threats?

Sure the Templols came back to Dhirim area, and we probed Nord lands, and Fallen started taking out L.I., but that was small potatoes, and towards the end of strat 3.  How boring, hopefully you guys have fun with your trading game simulator in EU lands, NA lands will continue to be where people fight for territory (aka playing the game).
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Harpag on September 18, 2012, 12:50:02 pm
Shitposter
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Vovka on September 18, 2012, 01:41:49 pm
What does that have to do with being a carebear and having 99% of the EU lands locked down with friends and allies who were never going to fight each other?  What about that exact scenario, plus AI fiefs existing and not being taken over, despite not having any real external threats?

Sure the Templols came back to Dhirim area, and we probed Nord lands, and Fallen started taking out L.I., but that was small potatoes, and towards the end of strat 3.  How boring, hopefully you guys have fun with your trading game simulator in EU lands, NA lands will continue to be where people fight for territory (aka playing the game).

Lol for every NA player u have 2 fiefs why the fuck u must fight for them  :P
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Ego_HRE on September 19, 2012, 01:11:00 pm
Shitposter

 :mrgreen:

gl Greys
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Tovi on September 19, 2012, 02:56:35 pm
I've been attacked at Ehlerdah, I need some support, tomorrow at 8.00
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Olwen on September 19, 2012, 06:39:41 pm
tovi, check your clan's claims, lolnoob :)
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Tovi on September 19, 2012, 07:08:30 pm
I don't care, what Grey Order own, what Grey Order claim.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Harpag on September 19, 2012, 09:35:15 pm
tovi, check your clan's claims, lolnoob :)
Lolwen + 1

WTF Tovi? CU on TS!
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Olwen on September 20, 2012, 08:44:36 am
I don't care, what Grey Order own, what Grey Order claim.

that's a smart member you got there Harpag :s though, as he gave us all his equipment and lost all his army i forgive him for that retarded move :) it was a glorious battle

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PkwyQ4JDA
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: arowaine on September 20, 2012, 09:35:30 am
that's a smart member you got there Harpag :s though, as he gave us all his equipment and lost all his army i forgive him for that retarded move :) it was a glorious battle

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PkwyQ4JDA

occitan will come for you now olwen since you are not a good person.

you surrender like all the french pecores did shame on you.
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Olwen on September 20, 2012, 09:49:03 am
i'm a hero and i bring freedom to the people, if you attack me you're evil and evil shall die ! i never surrender !
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Knute on September 20, 2012, 10:04:47 am
The Battle of Ehlerdah aka The Marathon



Renegade Grey Order monks descended on the peaceful village of Ehlerdah.

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The defenders were armed with nothing except their love of freedom.

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The defenders eventually discovered their two secret weapons.  Physical fitness... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20)

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...and just_another_lemon_tree.

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The defenders counterattacked with weapons they paid dearly for, forcing the exhausted attackers to retreat.

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Good battle everyone, attackers too.  Peasants everywhere, defend your villages.  Unite and resist!

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Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: [ptx] on September 20, 2012, 10:06:26 am
Viva la revolution!
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Olwen on September 20, 2012, 10:35:00 am
FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Tovi on September 20, 2012, 01:44:21 pm
I missed the battle because I thought it was 24h later, but it's obviously 25h and I had to go to work :(

How could we loose against those nudes forest beast ?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Knute on September 20, 2012, 07:19:25 pm
How could we loose against those nudes forest beast ?

Well it was what you could call a running battle. 
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Cicero on September 20, 2012, 07:42:20 pm
i'm a hero

who the fuck give you that ?

How can a hero get killed by a jester without hitting jester once ?
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: KingBread on September 21, 2012, 01:37:05 am
:) :) this battle with Chariots of fire in background. I hope freedom will spread like christianity !


Anyway gl Greys
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Kalp on September 22, 2012, 09:17:22 pm
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 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Greys Strat 4 Diplomacy
Post by: Rebelyell on September 22, 2012, 09:48:12 pm
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 :mrgreen:
win