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Title: I just found some screens...
Post by: Molly on July 30, 2012, 10:45:56 am
...and I was wondering...

Quote from: Zapper on July 30, 2012, 01:32:21 am
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Screens:
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See those green and red rings around the banner. Even the enemy team has banners, just a red ring.

What is this? A new feature from the ongoing beta?

Thoughts/Feelings? Discuss?


Aunt Edith says...

...that I am obviously talking about the 3rd image, showing enemies with banner but red rings around them.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Muki on July 30, 2012, 10:48:17 am
I think they added it in to help ID Friendlies and Enemies
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Vibe on July 30, 2012, 10:48:57 am
Banners over enemies is a bad idea, doubt it will stay.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Latrinenkobold on July 30, 2012, 10:50:58 am
Is this jarlek all the time?

He has a very sexy armor dont you think :D?
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Para on July 30, 2012, 10:52:16 am
It's an optional option. The default setting still looks normal.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 11:57:56 am
Quote from: Vibe on July 30, 2012, 10:48:57 am
Banners over enemies is a bad idea, doubt it will stay.

+1, would make hiding for ranged and assassins impossible.

I'm not sure about the green border either. It helps to see some banners better, but it kinda destroys the feel as its too "neon".
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Knitler on July 30, 2012, 12:08:06 pm
Quote from: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 11:57:56 am
+1, would make hiding for ranged and assassins impossible.

I'm not sure about the green border either. It helps to see some banners better, but it kinda destroys the feel as its too "neon".

+1 its too much information, i think even the banner bug will not go away with this, and thats too much information. How about writing their skills in the chat when you QMS them or whatever :D?
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Grumbs on July 30, 2012, 12:25:57 pm
Quote from: Para on July 30, 2012, 10:52:16 am
It's an optional option. The default setting still looks normal.

Doubt it will be that optional since you will derprive yourself of useful information on enemy positions. Yet in close battles when you have to make quick decisions, we will probably see more TK's since its a lot easier to recognise the absence of a banner rather than the colour around it. Especially with people making banners with the green colour to try to look like friendlies
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Toodles on July 30, 2012, 12:46:39 pm
Are you telling me that in addition to being among the last three players that can't see through vegetation I'll now be spotted sneaking behind low walls? I hope this isn't a measure to counter people hiding in hay stacks, because theres a much simpler solution to THIS issue. Could any developer give us the reasoning here?
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Rhekimos on July 30, 2012, 12:56:57 pm
I don't like this feature.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: BeastSVK on July 30, 2012, 01:03:01 pm
its realy bad idea..poor peoples who cant see colours..
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Elmuri on July 30, 2012, 01:06:35 pm
Makes hiding and surprising really hard, I dont like
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: rustyspoon on July 30, 2012, 02:37:27 pm
This would make my assassin go cry in a corner.  :cry:
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: bonekuukkeli on July 30, 2012, 02:51:40 pm
Crap.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 02:57:02 pm
Quote from: Grumbs on July 30, 2012, 12:25:57 pm
Especially with people making banners with the green colour to try to look like friendlies

HAHA... our banner is half green, half red already. We would constantly get half-teamkilled  :lol:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=495
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: EyeBeat on July 30, 2012, 03:13:26 pm
They should make this for spectator mode so when you record other people in fraps you can see who is who.

Please do this!

Also it helps admins that are in spectator easily see who is TWing/TKing.

Take off the enemy banners when you are actually playing though. 
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Molly on July 30, 2012, 03:47:05 pm
Quote from: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 02:57:02 pm
HAHA... our banner is half green, half red already. We would constantly get half-teamkilled  :lol:
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Doesn't make sense... like... at all!  :P
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Strider on July 30, 2012, 04:08:22 pm
I like it as long as they make it clearly noticeable who the enemy and your allies are.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Para on July 30, 2012, 04:26:41 pm
You'd think it would be more helpful than not seeing banners on enemies at all. It is very hard to discern those outline colors at long distances, making it more of a hindrance to tell friend from foe.

This is a great tool for admins in spectator mode, but I still think people will keep things the old way once they are given the option.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Elindor on July 30, 2012, 04:28:59 pm
Para already said this, but I'll say it again.

Its an OPTION in the new client menu.   You can add banners over people, or remove them, or add colored rings like you see there, or remove them.  Personally I keep things as they are now except adding a green ring to friendlies. 

But you don't have to change anything at all - and the default setting is same as current client settings.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 04:57:32 pm
Quote from: Elindor on July 30, 2012, 04:28:59 pm
Para already said this, but I'll say it again.

Its an OPTION in the new client menu.   You can add banners over people, or remove them, or add colored rings like you see there, or remove them.  Personally I keep things as they are now except adding a green ring to friendlies. 

But you don't have to change anything at all - and the default setting is same as current client settings.

Thats the problem... if you're leaking only half the info from the beta, everything will be discussed with half knowledge. Just tell us everything right NOW!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Grumbs on July 30, 2012, 05:26:24 pm
I think the ability to make enemy players more visible will override the possibility of some extra tking. Someone might be concealed to one player who has the banner off, but visible to another. Personally I will have the enemy banners on just so I see players better, just hope I don't end up tking more.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Toodles on July 30, 2012, 06:00:58 pm
Quote from: Elindor on July 30, 2012, 04:28:59 pm
Para already said this, but I'll say it again.

Its an OPTION in the new client menu.   You can add banners over people, or remove them, or add colored rings like you see there, or remove them.  Personally I keep things as they are now except adding a green ring to friendlies. 

But you don't have to change anything at all - and the default setting is same as current client settings.

And those who DISABLE them will be at a DISADVANTAGE.

Do you not see the loss in tactical flexibility here? Hell, this change would destroy STEALTH ITSELF. I won't worry about line of sight alone, I'll also be worrying about having a HUGE NEON SIGN ABOVE MY HEAD indicating to the three last survivors of the enemy team that I'm RIGHT BEHIND THIS WALL. From hunter I become hunted - please don't allow this change, it'll only destroy a whole layer of complexity for the sake of GOOD GOD I don't even KNOW.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 07:03:14 pm
Quote from: Toodles on July 30, 2012, 06:00:58 pm
And those who DISABLE them will be at a DISADVANTAGE.

I hope the borders are only optional for teammates and neither banner nor border is available for enemies as it really would dumb down the game. It would make it even easier for ranged to spot an enemy and just target the red sign above its head.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Jarlek on July 31, 2012, 12:21:26 am
Hehe. I was wondering when someone would ask about this after I posted the screens.

Yes, as mentioned by others, this is a new options that we are testing in the beta.

By default it's the same as of old, but now you can turn on/off banners on friendlies or enemies, and you can turn on/off banner outlines on friendlies or enemies. Or as I did when I first messed with them, turned ALL banners off (I changed back after I died from a horseman while I stood wondering if he was friendly or not).

Although having banners on enemies is VERY confusing sometimes! Especially in big clusterfucks. Allies with red banners or enemies with green banners can be horrible. Again, sorry to that DRZ guy I whacked a couple of times before I realized he was on my team.

It's a really nice option.


Quote from: Latrinenkobold on July 30, 2012, 10:50:58 am
Is this jarlek all the time?

He has a very sexy armor dont you think :D?
Yes, it's me. Stop mixing me with Zakker! (Y U remove me from steam and for 3 months talk to zakker as if it's me xD)

Although there's this other my old friend who keeps stealing my look. Byzantium_Chase. He probably just wanna be as awesome as me.

Quote from: dodnet on July 30, 2012, 04:57:32 pm
Thats the problem... if you're leaking only half the info from the beta, everything will be discussed with half knowledge. Just tell us everything right NOW!  :mrgreen:
You moron! Those pics weren't meant as leaks, but for a ban request on rule breakers! It's just a new feature together with... wait a minute! I see what you tried there! :D
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Cicero on July 31, 2012, 12:23:49 am
bullshit ; go fuckin play BF 3 in normal mode instead of giving those idiotic ideas to cRPG
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: NeoZecks on July 31, 2012, 01:01:13 am
I had a well thought out response to this thread, but then I watched Eye's gif and completely forgot what I was going to write...
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 31, 2012, 11:04:33 am
Quote from: Zapper on July 31, 2012, 12:21:26 am
You moron! Those pics weren't meant as leaks, but for a ban request on rule breakers! It's just a new feature together with... wait a minute! I see what you tried there! :D

Was worth a try, wasn't it?  8-)
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on July 31, 2012, 11:40:43 am
Quote from: Muki on July 30, 2012, 10:48:17 am
I think they added it in to help ID Friendlies and Enemies

It would be good if it wasn't green and red to help out the colour blind players (one of which does exist so tits or GTFO).

Also perhaps an option to display clan names above the heads instead of the banners would help as well, with just a white circle above friendlies.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Leesin on July 31, 2012, 11:51:35 am
A massively retarded idea that destroys more of the small amount of sneaky/stealth/surprise encounters.
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: dodnet on July 31, 2012, 11:58:13 am
I found the best solution: Just show a healthbar above all enemies heads.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Molly on July 31, 2012, 12:16:47 pm
Quote from: dodnet on July 31, 2012, 11:58:13 am
I found the best solution: Just show a healthbar above all enemies heads.  :mrgreen:
LAAAME!
Title: Re: I just found some screens...
Post by: Vovka on July 31, 2012, 02:32:57 pm
Quote from: Leesin on July 31, 2012, 11:51:35 am
A massively retarded idea that destroys more of the small amount of sneaky/stealth/surprise encounters.
+1