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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rebelyell on July 27, 2012, 12:29:20 pm
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderduel
How that works?
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It grows your e-penis by an inch every time you beat a peasant in a duel.
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So the website now has a duel tab? When will it be functional?
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There is indeed a duel button.....interesting.
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obviously its to set times for duels and maybe wagers too
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I love ranking systems, hope it works well!
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So much epeen in this game already, not sure this is gonna be a good thing lol (but not up to me of course).
If anyone remembers when Ecko had that site up that tracked performance on NA (and maybe EU too?) servers, makes people wig out :rolleyes:
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Right now the game server integration is missing, i hope we can get it working soon. The way it is supposed to work is you get on the official EU or NA duel server and just duel. The ranking is based on ELO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system) with a few modifications and we will most likely need lots of tweaking to get it right. The rankings page will be updated once a day based on the points you got.
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If anyone remembers when Ecko had that site up that tracked performance on NA (and maybe EU too?) servers, makes people wig out :rolleyes:
That was awesome. I loved it, even though back then I was struggling to get a 1.5 kdr :lol:
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I suspect that the duel server is going to get more traffic (good) but also going to gain alot of shields/crushthrough/knockdown (bad IMO) Hopefully dueling etiquette doesn't worsen any more.
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Well, glad its using ELO, that's more accurate than just "get on, duel peasants and people you know are worse than you to get score up" :wink:
Yeah Tom think I was somewhere around 1.8 or something on that back then ...goretooth and those guys were like 5.2 and shit , lol
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So much epeen in this game already, not sure this is gonna be a good thing lol (but not up to me of course).
If anyone remembers when Ecko had that site up that tracked performance on NA (and maybe EU too?) servers, makes people wig out :rolleyes:
The only thing that people werent really happy about was being able to see peoples alts.
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Not sure if its good idea. I can see many people thinking too much about their e-peen and duel too seriously (armor, weapon crutch, waiting for hours on opponent mistake) => incredible boring duels.
On other side, it will be very intristing to watch how much ladder reflect real dueling skill of players.
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Wonder if they will start charting battle and siege in this manner like the NA Community site by Ecko did.
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Excellent.
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Oh god Saul goes 98 and 3 on duel servers. :shock:
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awesome, harald. please don't forget NA (like with the polestun/ragdoll patch)
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Oh god Saul goes 98 and 3 on duel servers. :shock:
Only because the vast majority of the really good duelists have burned out and rarely play anymore. I wouldn't go 98/3 vs Mano or BigSandwich (or several others). I don't play that much anymore either, so I'm getting rusty at a fairly steady pace.
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Finally my dueling skills will come to use! Looking forward to this :D
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I wonder if the rules of the duel server will start to be enforced.
All types of duels are allowed (ranged, mounted, shield, heavy armor...) if both duelists agree
No following or face-hugging the other duelist before the duel countdown has ran out - either hold your starting position or back-pedal if you want some distance between you and your opponent
No running away or going into unreachable places
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Uhm, there are no duel server rules.
There was once, but that was removed and instead replaced by the common sense rule and no excessive trolling rule.
If some guy plays dirty tricks, simply don't duel him again.
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Bjord always spams and kickslashes! , so do it back and make him QQQQQQ
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This could be interesting.
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Uhm, there are no duel server rules.
There was once, but that was removed and instead replaced by the common sense rule and no excessive trolling rule.
If some guy plays dirty tricks, simply don't duel him again.
Duel mode specific rules
- All types of duels are allowed (ranged, mounted, shield, heavy armor...) if both duelists agree
- No following or face-hugging the other duelist before the duel countdown has ran out - either hold your starting position or back-pedal if you want some distance between you and your opponent
- No running away or going into unreachable places
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blablablabla
Who cares, anyway. Nobody follows the rules on duel.
And if someone is breaking them, people just stop duelling that guy anyway.
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Who cares, anyway. Nobody follows the rules on duel.
And if someone is breaking them, people just stop duelling that guy anyway.
I will see you QQing you on the forum then some my old friend face hug you with greate maul from very beginning of the round and you cant do anything.
Some rules have sens and its nice if someone follow them.
no offense bdziord It is just my opinion
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Sure, and I agree.
But like I said, if you don't like someone's playstyle or feel they are being total dickheads, never look in his direction ever again and he'll wonder one day why nobody wants to duel him.
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Dammit, its going to be hard for me to not care about this ranking. I play duel because I want to improve and focus on learning things which makes me lose a lot. Now I am probably going to be all win hungry.
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FINALLY a system with Elo ranking so I can finally set it to rest: It has been obvious to me for several years now that I AM THE GREATEST but now I can prove it to you all. Bitches, prepare to witness how I AM THE GREATEST
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Will alt characters be included?
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Any character can duel on EU and/or NA (separated points for each region).
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I'm really not fond of this. Currently duel server is a good place to practice new techniques and combat styles, see how other people fight, or just to get some regular training in without any real impact on a scoreboard. With this, it's even more of an e-peen contest than battle K/D. :(
Maybe make it so there are two types of duels, ranked and un-ranked?
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agree
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Even though I almost always manage to get top scoreboard and k/d on duel server, I find that this ranking system would break the fun. At least half of the players there come
to either train or try out a new build or outfit. If we include ranking there, we won't see those people again.
Don't change duel server, other than for the fixing of overhead delay and lag on strat battles. If you want a ranking system, as Zerran sugessted, let people have the choice of it.
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Back when we had this kind of ranking (it registred only kills/deaths) on Native server when I was a member of REF clan we had option to switch it off by typing simple command in chat. Would be nice to see something similar in here.
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Not sure if its good idea. I can see many people thinking too much about their e-peen and duel too seriously (armor, weapon crutch, waiting for hours on opponent mistake) => incredible boring duels.
On other side, it will be very intristing to watch how much ladder reflect real dueling skill of players.
This minus the second part; I doubt it will be interesting just something to scoff at
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Even though I almost always manage to get top scoreboard and k/d on duel server, I find that this ranking system would break the fun. At least half of the players there come
to either train or try out a new build or outfit. If we include ranking there, we won't see those people again.
Don't change duel server, other than for the fixing of overhead delay and lag on strat battles. If you want a ranking system, as Zerran sugessted, let people have the choice of it.
Why would this ranking system change anything?
People would still go to the duel server to practice, they would still go to the duel server to test out new stuff etc...
And to be honest I don't think many people care about having a bad K/D.
Thumbs up for this guys, would be cool to compare NA & EU duelists :)
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Maybe make it so there are two types of duels, ranked and un-ranked?
Play Rage ball ,its a great place to learn how to fight since it's a bit like TDM, but people must focus on killing / ball same time
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Thumbs up for this guys, would be cool to compare NA & EU duelists
that going to be biggest drama thread ever!!!!
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Can't really say I like the idea. When I'm on the duel server I'm probably just fucking around half of the time with different weapons and such. I like not having to worry about some kinda ratio.
Adding a ranking to it would kinda ruin the fun for me because everyone would turn into the same kill hungry (this actually doesn't translate into agressivness but cowardice i.e. avoiding to even take a single hit with all means) player there is on EU1.
People like GTX would complain even more if they get killed. No thanks.
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Haha, +1 WayyyyYYyYyYyYyyyYne.
But surely you can't truly believe it would make a difference, right? GTX finds ways man. He whines about anything possible to whine over.
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Cool, I'll go to duel server just to get my fair share of 1:60 k/d ratio and don't give a shit about some crap rating that have no meaning anyway. In before some e-peen hero write down something.
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I think I'll manage not to care, it's only going to be special people like GTX that will actually brag about such a rating, and they are sad anyway. I'm sure most people will just carry on like before.
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I think I'll manage not to care, it's only going to be special people like GTX that will actually brag about such a rating, and they are sad anyway. I'm sure most people will just carry on like before.
+1 :D
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Special is the key word.
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Dammit, its going to be hard for me to not care about this ranking. I play duel because I want to improve and focus on learning things which makes me lose a lot. Now I am probably going to be all win hungry.
I too am afraid of this :(
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Haha, +1 WayyyyYYyYyYyYyyyYne.
But surely you can't truly believe it would make a difference, right? GTX finds ways man. He whines about anything possible to whine over.
once he got ban by ban pool on eu4 because of his epic whine-skill
he is aragorn of whine with hes keyboard....
but back to topic
ranking is ranking and everyone want to improve that, that means no more funny duels or pure retardations on duel server,
I think we need some no ranking duels.
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I agree with trying to split the duel types. Either of the following systems would be nice
1) A tick box on your char page to say whether you are opting in or out of the duel ladder and then some sort of visual indication on the duel server like an "R" next to their name on the socreboard.
Or
2) Not sure if this is possible but it would be better imo...
Press F to offer/accept a ranked duel
Hold F to offer/accept an un-ranked duel (or press a different button)
The message that comes up will tell you which type it is.
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I agree with trying to split the duel types. Either of the following systems would be nice
1) A tick box on your char page to say whether you are opting in or out of the duel ladder and then some sort of visual indication on the duel server like an "R" next to their name on the socreboard.
Or
2) Not sure if this is possible but it would be better imo...
Press F to offer/accept a ranked duel
Hold F to offer/accept an un-ranked duel (or press a different button)
The message that comes up will tell you which type it is.
Maybe when you chose your equipment there is a tickbox (Like the Ready to Spawn one). Which will start your ranked life.
There also needs to be a way to show what other players are Ranked. Maybe a different colour name when you look at him or something.
One thing that also scares me is... people switching to spec or quitting when they are about to lose to either save their rank or make their opponent gain nothing from the win.
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What Tomas said.
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@Korgoth:
If you go spec during a duel you automatically forfeit. The other guy gets a message saying "You have won a duel."
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I like, I might be the one with the most duels and the worst k/d ratio, not that I care ;D
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Play Rage ball ,its a great place to learn how to fight since it's a bit like TDM, but people must focus on killing / ball same time
Indeed, Rage Ball and Siege are both good training grounds, however only in duel:
- Do you not have to worry about the team, so trying out something completely new and screwing it up a few times doesn't negatively affect anyone else.
- Do you not have to worry about finding someone of a similar skill level in the midst of a giant melee. You can just walk up to whoever you want to fight.
- Can you just sit back and watch other people of similar skill levels fight.
- Do you not have to worry about getting stabbed in the back/shot, so you can really focus on your technique.
- Can you have other people actively work on helping you with a certain combat style/technique. For example, asking someone to help you practice chambering, blocking, castoring, etc.
Siege and rage ball are great practice for large melees, but they don't teach you how to fight 1v1 and don't really let you try new techniques. Additionally, everyone is going all out there, so it's harder for very new players to get started. In duel they can ask for help, and MOST people will help them, or at least go easy on them.
The duel server was how I got good enough when I just started in order for Siege to even really be viable as practice. Before I practiced some in the duel server, siege was basically just me suiciding over and over.
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+1 if it fixes those endless epeen issues
-1 if its just another.
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I'm really not fond of this. Currently duel server is a good place to practice new techniques and combat styles, see how other people fight, or just to get some regular training in without any real impact on a scoreboard. With this, it's even more of an e-peen contest than battle K/D. :(
Maybe make it so there are two types of duels, ranked and un-ranked?
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most my time spent on duel server has been teaching some friends the basics (chambers/blocks etc), which you can't do in any other mode. but I like the idea of the ranking system too but it really should be separate. and only if the elo system actually works so it doesn't matter who you duel.
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Another mountain to climb.
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Looks like I must stop making silly chars on my main, and go 18/24 2hander :D
So few know the true fury I unleash.
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cRPG dueling is boring anyway, all the shit is way too slow, it's more of a game of patience than a match of skill
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It's sometimes slow because most use the longest, slowest weapons there are.
But back to the topic:
I also vote for the idea of having both ranked and un-ranked duels. Personally the only reason I go to duels is to learn stuff, and if there's only ranked duels there it propably gets difficult to find someone to practice with.
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I agree for Ranked and Unranked duels.
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I think I'll manage not to care, it's only going to be special people like GTX that will actually brag about such a rating, and they are sad anyway. I'm sure most people will just carry on like before.
You mean wear heavy armor and run in circles?
I have another suggestion, or addition to existing suggestions:
You defeat a guy, you get his rank, his new rank = old rank +1
Example: Teeth rank 20, I duel him, me rank 20, he rank 21.
That would be make way more sense than the current system.
With the current system a player could simply avoid duels with players he knows that he cant beat, and duel only players he knows he will beat for sure, and this over and over again.
Also, refusing a duel should auto-kick the player out of the top100.
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You mean wear heavy armor and run in circles?
I have another suggestion, or addition to existing suggestions:
You defeat a guy, you get his rank, his new rank = old rank +1
Example: Teeth rank 20, I duel him, me rank 20, he rank 21.
That would be make way more sense than the current system.
With the current system a player could simply avoid duels with players he knows that he cant beat, and duel only players he knows he will beat for sure, and this over and over again.
Also, refusing a duel should auto-kick the player out of the top100.
You can keep refusing dueling better guys but you won't get much/any points then. Also, what's to stop top ranks in your system just going afk and avoiding duels?
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I think chadz has unranked duels planned. Eta: this millenium. Also Michael should read up on elo ranking before coming up with his "better" system.
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Sry to say Michael, but in my opinion ur system sounds worse, than the one atm.
The one atm is actually pretty decent. U cant just peasant farm, and the people u know u can beat, will not take u far. U have to duel better players.
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Also, what's to stop top ranks in your system just going afk and avoiding duels?
Points will decay if you go inactive / didn't have worthy duels for a while.
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Points will decay if you go inactive / didn't have worthy duels for a while.
I was actually asking Michael that about his system, but I was wondering how it worked with the current one as well :D
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Points will decay if you go inactive / didn't have worthy duels for a while.
In that case, this system is pretty fucking good. Apart from the server lag is causes, well I'm not sure if it does, but server hasn't been as bad as this in a long long time.
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Just wanted to give my KUDOS to devs regarding the new system! It actually makes you TRY to beat the good players, as you get an awesome amount of pts and basically risk none... 8-) Well, till you start winning, then it becomes a fair game :rolleyes:.
ELOS at its best :mrgreen:
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looks promising
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so far all ive met is retarded duelers :/ im an impressive lvl 27 slow 1h and yet people just backpeddle only :( I was dueling a crusader knight called Prasec and im thinking ok this should be fun were allies and crusaders. we had a decent duel for a min or so untill ofc a random horse hits me in the back knocking me down. what does my honourable knight do? ofc kill me. god how i hate the duel server :D
E-peen rankings just turns normal nice guys into total assholes in every game and every mode :/
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Anyway,
Does this mean you will finally let me curbstomp you, GEETEE-EKS? Sorry I mean, duel.
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25 guy in the first 25 position
24 are 2h/pole
and ppl still complaining about how bad 2h/pole are. they still dominate , expecial glave pole abuser
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Only a few have the mental strength to embrace the ultimate boredom of sword&board dueling.
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This maybe could be a good time to update NA_3 with the polestun changes maybe. You know the change that has been in effect on EU servers for over a month. Last strat battle I was in we still didn't have ragdoll & polestun changes on the server.
Please and thank you!
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TuckMuncK second in NA. Just lulz :lol:
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TuckMuncK second in NA. Just lulz :lol:
Second place in NA is TossPotamer...
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Second place in NA is TossPotamer...
Yeah, currently Tuck is 5th, but he was 2nd when I opened page with duels (in the morning, before I went out). Still lulz :D
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Yeah, currently Tuck is 5th, but he was 2nd when I opened page with duels (in the morning, before I went out). Still lulz :D
Yeah, that is a problem with starting an ELO system. Because everyone starts at the same rating, you gain more points in the begining because the bad players ratings are higher then they should be. Not to mention all the people who arent duelists have been in their lately because of the strategus battles. Two days ago, I played about 10 duels, went 7-3 or so and was in the top 25. As the system matures, players won't be able to take advantage of beating people at stock ELO (first ranked fight) because they will only gain like 1 point or possibly 0.
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duels are a joke in crpg, cmp even admitted you guys know it and dont care about it.
why implement this? write some code that nerfs range instead.
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Duel is overall boring, yes. Give me a 1v3 anyday, though. Some people are fun to fight like Saul and Rhaelys or gimmick fights (1h stab only duel ftw!)
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Naked kyber knife duelz
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Yeah, that is a problem with starting an ELO system. Because everyone starts at the same rating, you gain more points in the begining because the bad players ratings are higher then they should be. Not to mention all the people who arent duelists have been in their lately because of the strategus battles. Two days ago, I played about 10 duels, went 7-3 or so and was in the top 25. As the system matures, players won't be able to take advantage of beating people at stock ELO (first ranked fight) because they will only gain like 1 point or possibly 0.
Alot happened since 2 days ago, u cant just go 7-3 atm and get top 25. U need more than 310 to just make it to the list atm. And at 250-300 points, noone at stock ELO will give u any points.
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Duel is overall boring, yes. Give me a 1v3 anyday, though. Some people are fun to fight like Saul and Rhaelys or gimmick fights (1h stab only duel ftw!)
Gimmick fights are the best. Back in November (I think) last year Darth_Maul and I had full plate duels with practice longswords. The catch? No blocking, overheads only. Was a chamber-fest.
No more fun stuff like that anymore, though.
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Alot happened since 2 days ago, u cant just go 7-3 atm and get top 25. U need more than 310 to just make it to the list atm. And at 250-300 points, noone at stock ELO will give u any points.
I have done a few more duels since then and I am at like 320ish right now and sitting in 28th. This is for NA though, its possible not as many duels are occuring as in EU.
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1 thing I noticed that might need somethign changed about is different lvls in the duels. I retured this week and was only lvl 22 when the duel counts started.
It does not appear to take lvl into account. I am fighitng 30 and highers. Doing relatively well. But giving a lot of levels away and gain/loss of points does not seem to matter.
I beat a lvl 30 gain 10 points because I have more duel points. I get 1 shot in the next fight and drop 20.
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1 thing I noticed that might need somethign changed about is different lvls in the duels. I retured this week and was only lvl 22 when the duel counts started.
It does not appear to take lvl into account. I am fighitng 30 and highers. Doing relatively well. But giving a lot of levels away and gain/loss of points does not seem to matter.
I beat a lvl 30 gain 10 points because I have more duel points. I get 1 shot in the next fight and drop 20.
Yeah it doesnt take that into account, im nearly 100% sure. I dueled for lols on my alt, and it seemed to be the exact same as my main. (he is lvl 23)
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It's a cool feature but cRPG is just bad for duelling imo.
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Duels were a lot more fun before a significant portion of players started obsessing over their rankings. I did manage to have some fun gimmicky wedding dress/robe/cudgel/staff duels yesterday, though.
I wish you could choose to just abstain from rankings.
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Duels were a lot more fun before a significant portion of players started obsessing over their rankings. I did manage to have some fun gimmicky wedding dress/robe/cudgel/staff duels yesterday, though.
I wish you could choose to just abstain from rankings.
The rankings bring more harm than not. First off cRPG is really the last place for competitive dueling, it's mostly about just how much armor, IF and PS you stack, everything is shit slow anyway so duels can last forever and winning is about who gets the lucky spam hit or kick in and it's more of a patience/luck game like I said in the last post. The EU3 server has become a den of win greedy people who play the style that grants them wins but is absolutely boring to duel against. Not to mention EU3 with more than 8 people on is a lagfest and everything is extra delayed (on top of already delayed cRPG, which in comparison to native is as if you were playing on North American servers).
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The rankings bring more harm than not. First off cRPG is really the last place for competitive dueling, it's mostly about just how much armor, IF and PS you stack, everything is shit slow anyway so duels can last forever and winning is about who gets the lucky spam hit or kick in and it's more of a patience/luck game like I said in the last post. The EU3 server has become a den of win greedy people who play the style that grants them wins but is absolutely boring to duel against. Not to mention EU3 with more than 8 people on is a lagfest and everything is extra delayed (on top of already delayed cRPG, which in comparison to native is as if you were playing on North American servers).
i need way more than 8 people before i can feel a different on the server.
Btw its a luck/patience game?. :lol: All of my duels is pretty damn short, and i dont spam randomly, i never ever kick and i dont have much patience. But yet im doing great. I guess im just lucky then ?
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i need way more than 8 people before i can feel a different on the server.
Btw its a luck/patience game?. :lol: All of my duels is pretty damn short, and i dont spam randomly, i never ever kick and i dont have much patience. But yet im doing great. I guess im just lucky then ?
no ofcourse you're just that awesome, unless when you lose because that is when your lag kicks in right
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HomoYoshi is first with insane score, just lulz.
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He is just awesome, what do you want?
("Phi, cheater" I mean)
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Paying a loom point to each of the top 3 duelists to let me kill them 100 times each so i can be the best
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Paying a loom point to each of the top 3 duelists to let me kill them 100 times each so i can be the best
pay homoyoshi, he will give you awesome amount of points each duel.
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Who is this Homoyoshi? never seen him before.
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Who is this Homoyoshi? never seen him before.
No idea, but he found a way too cheat the system. Man i want to duel him....... Probably a freaking easy kill :P.
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No idea, but he found a way too cheat the system.
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Something foul seems afoot!
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Something foul seems afoot!
Saw this earlier, clearly there is some way to make it so both players win the duel.
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Hmm, no idea. Maybe some overflow when going below 0.
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The rankings bring more harm than not. First off cRPG is really the last place for competitive dueling, it's mostly about just how much armor, IF and PS you stack, everything is shit slow anyway so duels can last forever and winning is about who gets the lucky spam hit or kick in and it's more of a patience/luck game like I said in the last post. The EU3 server has become a den of win greedy people who play the style that grants them wins but is absolutely boring to duel against. Not to mention EU3 with more than 8 people on is a lagfest and everything is extra delayed (on top of already delayed cRPG, which in comparison to native is as if you were playing on North American servers).
Dueling is boring in cRPG because cRPG has nerfed everything that makes dueling interesting, just go play native duel instead.
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Hmm, no idea. Maybe some overflow when going below 0.
I have heard of some players leaving the server right before they are about to lose to avoid losing points, but I don't know if the other guy gets points. Plus that would be a lot of work for those two players to do just to get to the top of the duel rankings.
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HomoYoshi is I suspect Hideyoshi's alt from Byzantium. His score doesn't surprise me, he is the most boring player I dueled. And then he had stomach to complain about my playstyle. :lol:
Maybe if you've never lost your score skyrockets?
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HomoYoshi is I suspect Hideyoshi's alt from Byzantium. His score doesn't surprise me, he is the most boring player I dueled. And then he had stomach to complain about my playstyle. :lol:
Maybe if you've never lost your score skyrockets?
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I rly rly rly dont think so, thats too crazy.
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HomoYoshi is I suspect Hideyoshi's alt from Byzantium. His score doesn't surprise me, he is the most boring player I dueled. And then he had stomach to complain about my playstyle. :lol:
Maybe if you've never lost your score skyrockets?
Bjordy here flames first thinks second. Wouldn't you think it was a bug that put him on #1 and not his "most boring dueling skills"?
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No no, I am aware of the bug.
I was simply saying that HomoYoshi is obv Hideyoshi(who is only "top" duelist because everyone falls asleep at keyboard fighting him).
I have no idea what causes the bug, hence why there is a question mark at the end of my post.
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how could anybody care about these duels?
Slow. Boring. Oh, did I mention slow and boring?
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how could anybody care about these duels?
Slow. Boring. Oh, did I mention slow and boring?
and that is why you and others duel in at least 60 body armor, if people would wear light armor with agi(balanced) builds, use longsword or heavy bastard sword, duels would be exciting as in native except broken lolstab and floorspam. (in EU are native servers mostly on medium speed like crpg and character in crpg has better stats)
I didnt get why is here endless whining about slow combat, combat is slow because of players, not devs.
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I don't think it's just the medium speed actually. It is that + some strange delay, it's not lag I can't describe it, just that native feels much smoother.. it's just like if you added a 0.1 sec timer (or even more) to every melee action
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To be Honest. I can't even enjoy dueling anymore!
It's so frustrating trying to keep my stupid points up
DAHHHHH
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Skrubb, can you by any chance deadlift 405 lbs like it was air?
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I don't think it's just the medium speed actually. It is that + some strange delay, it's not lag I can't describe it, just that native feels much smoother.. it's just like if you added a 0.1 sec timer (or even more) to every melee action
This.
It is the truth, there is delay, compared to native, you can feel it really well.
I dont duel, I did like it the first half year, it got more and more boring and slow for me, but that doesn t matter since there is enough ppl. enjoying "THIS". So, keep it that way.
Armorweight etc. doesnt affect it dramatically btw ;-) Ping is great also.
If it was not intended by the devs to lower the pace, who else did it?
Its that way, okay, why not....but duels are gone for me.
Battle, thats where the fun still is :-)
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ohh shit i didn't even know there was a rank system for Duels O_O???
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and that is why you and others duel in at least 60 body armor, if people would wear light armor with agi(balanced) builds, use longsword or heavy bastard sword, duels would be exciting as in native except broken lolstab and floorspam. (in EU are native servers mostly on medium speed like crpg and character in crpg has better stats)
I didnt get why is here endless whining about slow combat, combat is slow because of players, not devs.
The greatsword is all people use in native duels and it faster then a longsword in crpg, even in light armor. So no I don't think its the players.
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Skrubb, can you by any chance deadlift 405 lbs like it was air?
Actually I'm pretty weak to be honest
And that poor doggy in your avatar looks very uncomfortable