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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Karmazyn on April 06, 2011, 01:51:10 pm

Title: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Karmazyn on April 06, 2011, 01:51:10 pm
Templars have a medieval role, Seariders too, HRE and Druzhina while Fallen/Risen/The Grey dont.
Kapitukulus have while Mercenaries dont, I mean Im a mercenary and you are faction, maybe you want be Saracens since your leader roleplay as one.

And so on..., no fantasy factions more historical (or historical like) correct factions that use the historical right equipment.
Would be more interesting, IMHO.

Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: [ptx] on April 06, 2011, 02:07:56 pm
The point is, you want everyone to roleplay?
Dream on.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Tetris on April 06, 2011, 02:08:11 pm
Welcome to Calradia 2011.

Where The Fallen, is a faction.
The Grey is a faction.
Druzhina is a faction.

They are indeed "historical", in a "fantasy game".
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Christo on April 06, 2011, 02:12:04 pm
Calradia itself, is pure fiction.

Mercs, Fallen, Risen actually has their theme. Just not 150% historical, but they have one.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Vibe on April 06, 2011, 02:12:13 pm
Can you not see the irony of your suggestion?
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Karmazyn on April 06, 2011, 02:20:41 pm
Calradia itself, is pure fiction.

...

Calradia..., who cares, we play here a mod. And in a mod we can change things, like in singleplayer mod 1257 AD we can create for Strategus historical like factions.

Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Christo on April 06, 2011, 02:21:36 pm
Calradia..., who cares, we play here a mod. And in a mod we can change things, like in singleplayer mod 1257 AD we can create for Strategus historical like factions.

Strategus is set on the Calradia world map, my friend.  :wink:
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on April 06, 2011, 02:22:10 pm
The point is, you want everyone to roleplay?
Dream on.
I roleplay.

You want everyone to roleplay the same way you do?
Dream on, TC.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Opium.dk on April 06, 2011, 02:29:28 pm
Whats a Searider?
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: MountedRhader on April 06, 2011, 02:29:45 pm
This basically says gtfo to the majority of cRPG factions.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Karmazyn on April 06, 2011, 02:32:56 pm
Strategus is set on the Calradia world map, my friend.  :wink:

You can change the world map too, if you like, several mods did this.
I think Strategus would get more tension if historical kingdoms... would fight against each other.

This basically says gtfo to the majority of cRPG factions.  :rolleyes:

You would only need to change a your faction, like from Fallen to Fallen of Brabant...
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Beauchamp on April 06, 2011, 02:36:33 pm
Have you sinned, have you commit a murder? Are you pushed to the edge of world by noblemen you offended? Were you born black, jewish, crippled, do people hate you for no reason at all? Or do you just like blood…

Just sit by and join the FALLEN BRIGADE, because we don't care what you’ve done. But we know The Cure for your inner Daemons. You know what we mean…. blood and steel, pillage and plunder!

Caladria will be shaken by death and horror. Cities shall be burned to the ground and all the nobles will fear us, because we shall trample them underfeet.


is this not "historical" enough?
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Christo on April 06, 2011, 02:38:59 pm
Have you sinned, have you commit a murder? Are you pushed to the edge of world by noblemen you offended? Were you born black, jewish, crippled, do people hate you for no reason at all? Or do you just like blood…

Just sit by and join the FALLEN BRIGADE, because we don't care what you’ve done. But we know The Cure for your inner Daemons. You know what we mean…. blood and steel, pillage and plunder!

Caladria will be shaken by death and horror. Cities shall be burned to the ground and all the nobles will fear us, because we shall trample them underfeet.


is this not "historical" enough?

Looks like it isn't enough for him, Beauchamp.

Anyway, doing a real World Map with "real" factions would kill the creativity, and some of the fun.
It would either play out like M2TW, where for an example.. Kingdom of France defeats England, then captures Jerusalem. Just lol.
Or it would become a bit boring.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: v/onMega on April 06, 2011, 02:45:25 pm
I even double roleplay...besides I am following our restrictions I also pretend that I simply hate everybody, flame about everything, dislike minorities etc.


Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Vibe on April 06, 2011, 02:52:21 pm
To tickle your mind, you have no proof that there actually wasn't a historical brigade called Fallen.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: MountedRhader on April 06, 2011, 02:54:19 pm
You would only need to change your faction, like from Fallen to Fallen of Brabant...
Wtf?
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on April 06, 2011, 02:56:24 pm
I'm gonna change my faction to Venice.

Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Peasant_Woman on April 06, 2011, 02:59:18 pm
I'm gonna change my faction to Venice.

Venice, you are smalltime.

-Love, Milan.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: MountedRhader on April 06, 2011, 03:03:02 pm
I'm gonna change my faction to Venice.
Medieval Czech Republic. Just because its awesome.  8-)
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Count_RisArch on April 06, 2011, 03:03:46 pm
I did spend 10 or so mins writing a reply about how silly this thread is, I then relaised the OP must be trollin'

Either that or he's seemed to project the fantasy world of Caladria into Europe/Middle East. In which case the phrase which includes aint, tool, box and sharpest springs to mind.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: NuberT on April 06, 2011, 03:08:48 pm
I kind of agree, but you cant force people to do so. But I would like to see factions stick to their theme. Samurais, turks wearing bundle of stickshic etc. is actually kinda lame.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Beauchamp on April 06, 2011, 03:32:37 pm
Medieval Czech Republic. Just because its awesome.  8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_crown

ill change my name to Boleslav I. Ukrutný
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: ToxicKilla on April 06, 2011, 05:55:49 pm
Looks like it isn't enough for him, Beauchamp.

Anyway, doing a real World Map with "real" factions would kill the creativity, and some of the fun.
It would either play out like M2TW, where for an example.. Kingdom of France defeats England, then captures Jerusalem. Just lol.
Or it would become a bit boring.

France defeat England? Nah I don't think so....... :lol:
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Leiknir on April 06, 2011, 05:58:34 pm
How about you all get lost and leave Calradia to the Calradians like us SeaRaiders! (Thinking about it, are we the only "native faction" that got formed? :P )
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on April 06, 2011, 06:07:00 pm
How about you all get lost and leave Calradia to the Calradians like us SeaRaiders! (Thinking about it, are we the only "native faction" that got formed? :P )

I VILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL!
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Dom.Miguel on April 06, 2011, 06:18:46 pm
Less trolling more raiding!
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Kafein on April 08, 2011, 08:54:20 pm
Actually, while not encouraging proper historical factions, I would like members of factions have more strict rules for the stuff they are allowed to use. Armies with strong colors like HRE look cool, better than the usual patchwork. And I'm not even speaking about some trolls deliberatly using the most horrible combinations of armors, or the majority which apparently doesn't care about fitting a style or theme. How many times did I see samurais with huscarl shields...

Hey, what about giving small armor bonuses for harmony of equipment ? Like "all sarranid" or "all nordic" gives you a +2 to all your armor values. This is both realistic (A klappvisier is obviously not optimized to be used with a sarranid padded armor).
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Blondin on April 08, 2011, 09:20:06 pm
This is more a matter of taste, what you may find beautiful, i may find ugly...
but overall, most clans use harmony equipment, clannless pll use patchwork and crossdress..

To OP :
you look like someone that don't know the "history"of Strategus Calradia, and you don't know that factions are created by ppl not by dev, and it's a hard work, clans need style to grow up, they need an history, a background, something to make ppl dream, European historical accurate faction don't make me dream, they are to close to reality.
Why don't you create an historical faction, just to see if you can recruit more new members than faction like Fallen/Mercs/...?


PS :Toxickilla, sorry to say that but France defeated England, that's why England is still an island  :lol:
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on April 08, 2011, 09:23:57 pm
PS :Toxickilla, sorry to say that but France defeated England, that's why England is still an island  :lol:

Yeah if England had won, they would have filled in the channel :)
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Kophka on April 08, 2011, 09:39:31 pm
One of the most interesting things about Calradia is how closely it parallels Europe. Imagine, if you would, a lost continent, a Medieval Bermudas Triangle, where people from different cultures (but roughly the same timeframe, quantum physics is odd) ended up, and built their cultures that sort of resembled what they once knew. Several generations later, they've got their own unique flavor, but you can see the roots now and again. Like when I made the Sarmacian Raiders. It was "Take the Alans and Sarmatians of E.European history, bring them forward to the 13th century, corrupt the name a bit, and bam! instant Calradian Faction!" Who knows what else will develop in Calradia, land of lost (but vaguely remembered) heritage, uncertain futures, Heroic (or Villainous! ) Mercenary Companies, Pretender Kings, and break away factions?
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: EponiCo on April 08, 2011, 09:40:33 pm
Actually, while not encouraging proper historical factions, I would like members of factions have more strict rules for the stuff they are allowed to use. Armies with strong colors like HRE look cool, better than the usual patchwork. And I'm not even speaking about some trolls deliberatly using the most horrible combinations of armors, or the majority which apparently doesn't care about fitting a style or theme. How many times did I see samurais with huscarl shields...

Hey, what about giving small armor bonuses for harmony of equipment ? Like "all sarranid" or "all nordic" gives you a +2 to all your armor values. This is both realistic (A klappvisier is obviously not optimized to be used with a sarranid padded armor).

Sounds good, really. Though, for some factions (bandits?), they should be patchworked not uniform actually.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: bosco on April 08, 2011, 09:46:01 pm
Set bonuses, sounds interesting.

Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Sharky on April 08, 2011, 10:15:46 pm
The op post doesn't make many sense to me, even from an historical point of view (and this is a fantasy game) most armies in 1200/1500 were multinational, with very different equip and nationalities in it, forget about all same colour/same weapon armies. Seeing a guy with a turban fighting for templars doesn't seems so strange to me, he could be a turkoman mercenary. Kapikulu wielding a flamberge? Probably he looted it from a german guy.

Regarding my post- roman faction, i find it amusing that we have so many different classes. Most of us stick with heraldic, red or mailish roman-like armours, but nothing is forbidden, and when i see a Legio dressed like a Ninja  i like to think is a ninja mercenary or some allied "ninja tribe"  :lol:.
Also since our players can't have chars in other factions, limiting our gear to "board shield short sword and javelin" or to medieval italian would be boring in the long run. We like to change our classes and try different weapons and chars, our clan isn't based over Roleplaying a class but to be a group of mates that loves to play togheter, speaking our native language ;).

So even if we will get Roman or medieval italian armours is unlikely we will start to roleplay as Shogunate or Ninja faction does. We have fun this way and in the end this game is about having fun, if a faction have fun to have a strict dress/equip code and roleplay good for them, if some other faction like us or mercs don't want to, we don't ruin the immersion anyway , see us as multinational factions  :D
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Dravic on April 09, 2011, 12:52:02 pm
Calradia..., who cares, we play here a mod. And in a mod we can change things, like in singleplayer mod 1257 AD we can create for Strategus historical like factions.

Good, that you are not chadz.

It is good as it is.
Title: Re: Medieval time equitable factions
Post by: Karmazyn on April 09, 2011, 01:55:36 pm
Some people like to defend vienna from ottoman invasion or fight on the side of robert the bruce, other people like pokemons, lotr whatever.
Thread closed, ty for your opinion.