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Title: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 20, 2012, 06:25:01 am
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607193052?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607206130?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607207783?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607213516?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607184555?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607191073?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607178053?tab=all
Moron running around naked screwing around kicking random teammates wasting tickets.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607209912?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607214845?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607194570?tab=all
This guy jumped off the wall for god knows why! He was also blocking teammates attacks from behind but i wasnt able to get a pic of that.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607216995?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607219036?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607196529?tab=all
Opening gates on defense. Doesn't bother to close them. He went I think -5 and 50 something.... I looked up a recent battle I was in with him and he was 22 and 38... this guy isn't new he was intentionally wasting tickets. He was jumping off the walls and running around outside the walls dying...

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607188917?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607200542?tab=all
here he is jumping off a wall.

Wish i had more pics. But if you look at the final score you can tell that rhalzo was intentionally doing terrible. i was speccing the battle so i cant post the final score but if someone else could so we can see how many tickets he wasted then tyvm.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 20, 2012, 06:45:20 am
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607193052?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607206130?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607207783?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607213516?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607184555?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607191073?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607178053?tab=all
Moron running around naked screwing around kicking random teammates wasting tickets.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607209912?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607214845?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607194570?tab=all
This guy jumped off the wall for god knows why! He was also blocking teammates attacks from behind but i wasnt able to get a pic of that.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607216995?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607219036?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607196529?tab=all
Opening gates on defense. Doesn't bother to close them. He went I think -5 and 50 something.... I looked up a recent battle I was in with him and he was 22 and 38... this guy isn't new he was intentionally wasting tickets. He was jumping off the walls and running around outside the walls dying...

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607188917?tab=all
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198011735447/screenshot/1153170434607200542?tab=all
here he is jumping off a wall.

Wish i had more pics. But if you look at the final score you can tell that rhalzo was intentionally doing terrible. i was speccing the battle so i cant post the final score but if someone else could so we can see how many tickets he wasted then tyvm.

Btw, please take into account me being level 12 and getting raped from all sides when I would get into melee combat as the castle had like 3 weapons and no shields that I could use. A few of those shots, the last 2, were me jumping down to the ground level to make my way to where I would be useful. Also, I was shutting doors as I wasn't born in a barn.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Winterly on July 20, 2012, 06:50:27 am
You should have helped me build healing tents! :D
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 20, 2012, 07:39:28 am
You should have helped me build healing tents! :D

I should have, but I kept getting lost in that maze of a castle.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: KasperG on July 20, 2012, 12:31:06 pm
doubt defense would hire a lvl 12 player
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 20, 2012, 01:05:30 pm
I was signed up for defense at level 25 and it wouldnt hire me... doubt it hired a lvl 12 player.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 20, 2012, 04:15:00 pm
doubt defense would hire a lvl 12 player

AI hires based on reliabilty and performance now, not level. He could very easily be level 12. I've been hired low level before.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 20, 2012, 04:57:39 pm
AI hires based on reliabilty and performance now, not level. He could very easily be level 12. I've been hired low level before.

What Anders said.

To put it into perspective, Rhalzo is better than you even at level 12.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Joshly on July 20, 2012, 05:09:47 pm
I was signed up for defense at level 25 and it wouldnt hire me... doubt it hired a lvl 12 player.

I did a siege as lvl 12 last week, it is based on the rating, not your level.

I played as attackers and killed rhalzo many times throughout the battle, fairly. Its not like he was running around dieing on purpose, is was very slow and with the little bit of lag last night anyone with 40+ ping took a disadvantage when it spiked. It was easy to run around people to hit them. (Also nearly one shot rhalzo everytime)

Rhalzo is no dueling champ (no offense rhalzo) so its not like he is going to go 40-10 at lvl 12 when he is defender and can only wear the light gear. He is a pretty decent teamfighter, but with all the armor and the unorganized spam that is defenders - it obviously hard to get in the fight, and be useful. There we also areas in the castle that displayed no flags but defenders spawned, I killed a handful of these poor souls that spawned infront of me. Rhalzo could have been placed in a similar situation.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: oprah_winfrey on July 20, 2012, 06:02:29 pm
If he was actually trying to sabatoge wouldnt he want to wear the heavier armor (coat of plates) instead of wasting the peasant armor?
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 20, 2012, 07:14:16 pm
If he was actually trying to sabatoge wouldnt he want to wear the heavier armor (coat of plates) instead of wasting the peasant armor?

I spawned the first time around with the heavier armor and upon realizing that I couldn't do much, I switched to the lighter stuff to avoid wasting gear for people that could actually get a high KDR.

I did a siege as lvl 12 last week, it is based on the rating, not your level.

I played as attackers and killed rhalzo many times throughout the battle, fairly. Its not like he was running around dieing on purpose, is was very slow and with the little bit of lag last night anyone with 40+ ping took a disadvantage when it spiked. It was easy to run around people to hit them. (Also nearly one shot rhalzo everytime)

Rhalzo is no dueling champ (no offense rhalzo) so its not like he is going to go 40-10 at lvl 12 when he is defender and can only wear the light gear. He is a pretty decent teamfighter, but with all the armor and the unorganized spam that is defenders - it obviously hard to get in the fight, and be useful. There we also areas in the castle that displayed no flags but defenders spawned, I killed a handful of these poor souls that spawned infront of me. Rhalzo could have been placed in a similar situation.

I seemed to run into you more than I should have with all of the other people on the server, haha. Also, I take no offense from your statement as I know that I'm not the best at dueling, let alone this game in general.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 20, 2012, 09:39:14 pm
I sat there and watched him jump off of the Castle and run towards attackers spawn several times! I watched him run into enemies without even attempting to block once. Either he is absolutely fucking terrible at this game or he was just dying on purpose. He opened gates ran past and didnt even bother to close them. seriously watched him for like half the fucking siege and god do i wish i had fraps! I actually had to restart my game because i wasnt able to take pictures of you without steam overlay on. Answer me a least, Why would you jump off of the walls and run around on the outside of the walls and are you actually so terrible that you couldnt even attempt to block once? You went -5 and 50 something... how did you get negative? from suiciding? by jumping off the walls? Or are you so shitty you couldnt kill any enemies only teammates in an hour and a half almost. You could of picked up and arbalest and shot at enemies instead of screwing around the whole time. Also i never said sabotage i said he was wasting tickets. as in not even trying to play the game but running in and suiciding or dying. He didnt gain anything out of this but xp so why should he not jut fuck around the whole battle? Is it not wrong to suicide the whole siege while on defense regardless of level? If he truly wasnt doing anything wrong. WHY NEGATIVE? He died trying to jump off the walls in the wrong spots.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Muki on July 20, 2012, 09:43:04 pm
doesn't a Arby req 15 str?

Were there any admins on at the time of the siege? (I think i saw smoothrich on the defender list)

Ya I'm checking the SS right now going to take awhile :/
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: oprah_winfrey on July 20, 2012, 09:44:06 pm
I sat there and watched him jump off of the Castle and run towards attackers spawn several times! I watched him run into enemies without even attempting to block once. Either he is absolutely fucking terrible at this game or he was just dying on purpose. He opened gates ran past and didnt even bother to close them. seriously watched him for like half the fucking siege and god do i wish i had fraps! I actually had to restart my game because i wasnt able to take pictures of you without steam overlay on. Answer me a least, Why would you jump off of the walls and run around on the outside of the walls and are you actually so terrible that you couldnt even attempt to block once? You went -5 and 50 something... how did you get negative? from suiciding? by jumping off the walls? Or are you so shitty you couldnt kill any enemies only teammates in an hour and a half almost. You could of picked up and arbalest and shot at enemies instead of screwing around the whole time.

Why didn't you message an admin while it was happening?

edit: there was atleast two, canary and spaniard.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 20, 2012, 09:49:24 pm
Why message and admin so they can sit there with their thumbs in their asses. Messaging admins never gets shit done unless they see it. I wanted to take it to the forum where admins cant just ignore it. Personal choice would be the answer. Also i saw him pick up a bec de corbin so I know he had at least 15 strength.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 20, 2012, 10:14:40 pm
Why message and admin so they can sit there with their thumbs in their asses. Messaging admins never gets shit done unless they see it. I wanted to take it to the forum where admins cant just ignore it. Personal choice would be the answer. Also i saw him pick up a bec de corbin so I know he had at least 15 strength.

I couldn't use an arb or a bec as I just got 15 strength after the battle. Trust me, I wanted to just use a crossbow. And the negative deaths were from falling off shit inside the castle as well as falling off while trying to kill the ladders. I had a spear thing at one point if you thought that was a bec. Also, I did run at their spawn once to try and get some of them (4 of them followed me) to think "oh, a peasant". Lag was an issue (as well as crowding) in my lack of blocking, as well as, as Kart mentioned, I'm not always the greatest at dueling especially at low levels.

I'll apologize for my shitty performance, but I wasn't intentionally wasting tickets.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 20, 2012, 10:37:59 pm
Well what do you think it looks like to me in spec when i see a guy who is negative and 50 jumping off the wall running around outside their castle?
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Para on July 20, 2012, 10:56:01 pm
Why message and admin so they can sit there with their thumbs in their asses. Messaging admins never gets shit done unless they see it. I wanted to take it to the forum where admins cant just ignore it. Personal choice would be the answer. Also i saw him pick up a bec de corbin so I know he had at least 15 strength.

I really wish you would have reported him as he as doing it, we had 3+ admins on at the time. I also had a friend sitting in the room with me spectating the battle. Unfortunately when somebody did end up reporting him in-game and I had my friend spectate him, he had already stopped dying continuously, so I wasn't absolutely sure he was doing it intentionally.

It doesn't ever hurt to report these things in admin chat.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 20, 2012, 11:13:50 pm
Well what do you think it looks like to me in spec when i see a guy who is negative and 50 jumping off the wall running around outside their castle?

A dude who is low level and trying to help whatever way he can? I actually got 2-3 of their flags down one time. You already posted this so all you can do is let the admins make their decision.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 21, 2012, 01:08:30 am
Sry i have to post it here even if its not related to this request but we have a problem in eu our admins dont do there job anymore in the ban section could na admins pls have a look? or are you even able to do that?
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: oprah_winfrey on July 21, 2012, 01:12:57 am
Sry i have to post it here even if its not related to this request but we have a problem in eu our admins dont do there job anymore in the ban section could na admins pls have a look? or are you even able to do that?

They can look...but they can't make bans AFAIK.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 21, 2012, 07:39:58 am
Sry i have to post it here even if its not related to this request but we have a problem in eu our admins dont do there job anymore in the ban section could na admins pls have a look? or are you even able to do that?

NA admins are not able to take action on EU servers. That's beyond our jurisdiction (always wanted to say that).
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Winterly on July 21, 2012, 08:12:06 am
NA admins are not able to take action on EU servers. That's beyond our jurisdiction (always wanted to say that).

>.> Aren't you supposed to get mad and fight for jurisdiction...like grab the other guy's collar and shout "TO HELL WITH PROCEDURES"
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Muki on July 21, 2012, 08:13:39 am
>.> Aren't you supposed to get mad and fight for jurisdiction...like grab the other guy's collar and shout "TO HELL WITH PROCEDURES"

tried that once got typed at :/ (by some other Eu admins and a Dev)
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhekimos on July 21, 2012, 08:14:47 am
>.> Aren't you supposed to get mad and fight for jurisdiction...like grab the other guy's collar and shout "TO HELL WITH PROCEDURES"

It's harder over the internet.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Winterly on July 21, 2012, 08:32:56 am
Mmmmm time for roleplay...I mean...er... :oops:
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Lorden on July 22, 2012, 08:08:43 pm
Note to admins:

Check your logs, I -did- report him multiple times using i chat and NOTHING was done. I reported at least twice. I say that guy was wasting tickets on purpose to soften up the village for a future attack. I mean -10 and 50-something? Really?
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Rhalzo on July 23, 2012, 02:05:06 am
Note to admins:

Check your logs, I -did- report him multiple times using i chat and NOTHING was done. I reported at least twice. I say that guy was wasting tickets on purpose to soften up the village for a future attack. I mean -10 and 50-something? Really?

If I was really trying to sabotage it, I think I would have done something more diabolical and devious; not just make my performance meter go down. There were no motives behind my poor performance. I was TRYING to do well and actually help the defense, but due to having low HP, not being able to use a shield, and not wanting to waste the heavier armor I was easier to kill by both enemy and ally alike.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Canary on July 23, 2012, 02:18:05 pm
For what it's worth, the one time I did see Rhalzo during the battle he was breaking an attacker's ladders.

Note to admins:

Check your logs, I -did- report him multiple times using i chat and NOTHING was done. I reported at least twice.

We got your reports, it's not that we didn't do anything about it, it was that we couldn't. All of the admins present were on the attacker's side. It can't be expected of us to watch someone on the other side who may be misbehaving while we're also trying to attack the town ourselves. There's no spectate option in strat battles, and we can't always determine what's actually going on without being able to view the player in question properly. Taking action is simply not prudent unless we can see the fault for ourselves. Para was in the unique position of having another computer ready to spectate, but as he said, the reports didn't come until a time when nothing nefarious was happening.

I say that guy was wasting tickets on purpose to soften up the village for a future attack. I mean -10 and 50-something? Really?

And the guy says that he was low level and doing his best. There's not a lot of evidence for either case.

It is entirely likely that by trying harder, he managed to do worse. Imagine, trying to fight as a low level against the odds of a well-equipped army when you can't even use the gear for your chosen playstyle. There were other people on the defender's side who had the same amount of deaths as Rhalzo, if what he was (hypothetically) doing was performing the exact same actions as those people, with a lower level it is a foreseeable outcome that he'd end up with less kills.

There's just not enough evidence to indicate the intention of any of the players in question. We'll keep our eyes peeled, but as I said, in strat battles it's difficult to adjudicate while we're also trying to participate. Without witnessing the faults ourselves, and without any clear indication that they were as grievous as the accusations, there's nothing to be done here.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 23, 2012, 03:29:24 pm
I think rhalzo wasnt doing it on purpose but seriouly do something about EU dumbass screwing around with no weapon and armor...
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: genric on July 23, 2012, 06:46:28 pm
I was not apart of this battle but I find it curious no one is asking how he got those -10?
-10 is a really high negative number, a decent positive too in the right game type, usually you have to STRIVE to get a score like that. The deaths mean nothing when it's like a 3000 ticket war but if you were trying I would imagine you would at least stay at 0 unless because you really though "fuck it, doesn't matter really cause I can't kill anything. WHEEEEEEEEEE" *Splat* Not that I'm saying anything against anyone in particular I just feel that piece of evidence needs to be examined and the case can probably be laid to rest.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Blackzilla on July 23, 2012, 08:21:59 pm
Not really generic, I fall off the wall all the time resulting in a lot of my deaths, but I am a high enough lvl/skilled enough to make it back, rhalzo had the skill, but not the lvl to fix his KD.


Not to mention he could have been breaking ladders while standing on them, and was rewarded by falling to death.

Added for correctness.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: oprah_winfrey on July 23, 2012, 08:25:39 pm
Not to mention he could have been breaking ladders while standing on them, and was rewarded by falling to death.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: genric on July 23, 2012, 10:40:40 pm
Not really generic, I fall off the wall all the time resulting in a lot of my deaths, but I am a high enough lvl/skilled enough to make it back, rhalzo had the skill, but not the lvl to fix his KD.

Your point is not valid for misspelling my name
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Blackzilla on July 23, 2012, 11:45:22 pm
Your point is not valid for misspelling my name
very mature, but okay, you win.
Title: Re: Ticket Wasters
Post by: Canary on July 24, 2012, 12:06:16 am
I think rhalzo wasnt doing it on purpose but seriouly do something about EU dumbass screwing around with no weapon and armor...

There's still a bug where you can spawn before you select equipment, or without equipment if you've selected it. The guy in the screenshots was evidently participating in the rest of the battle, and didn't seem to be wasting tickets.

I will remind people not to kick their teammates, though.