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Title: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 18, 2012, 11:39:40 pm
Hello there, sooner or later I'm going to snatch one of those training lessons so I'm wondering what do with it.

I'm currently level 35, pure level 33 gaysword build with a little wasted points in shield and riding:

6 IF
6 PS
8 ATH
1 SHLD
3 RDNG
8 WM

176 wpp in 2H

Now, I'm not sure what I want but I know what I DON'T WANT:

Pure builds!

I could probably make something super gay like 27/18 pure pole or 2h or maybe even 42/3 brute with 14 PS and 101 HP but I don't want that.

I want hybrid, mix of everything.

This is what I like the most:

21/21

7 PS/ATH/RDNG/WM
4 IF

120 pole
130 1h

This is alternative (super ordinary build hybrid):

18/21

6 IF/PS
7 ATH/RDNG/WM
5 SHLD
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Tzar on July 18, 2012, 11:46:43 pm
Do you still eat n sleep :?:

Or does your mom feed you an change your man diapers  :?:  :lol:

PS: your builds looks fine dunno wth i would do with so many skill / stat points lol

Maybe try throwing i know its shit but its fun to shotgun kiting archers
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: _Tak_ on July 19, 2012, 12:22:39 am
It's going to be very expensive to do one of those lesson, Leshma you planning to use lance on horse or just 2 h?
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Dach on July 19, 2012, 12:54:38 am
15 STR
30 AGI

IF 5
PS 5
ATH 10
WM 6

100 2H WPF
140 XBOW WPF

WIN  :D

(Would totally do that if I had a lvl 35 character)
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Plavor on July 19, 2012, 01:08:28 am
wtf leshma werent you lv 33 3 months ago ?? Nerd leshma, nerd.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 01:10:00 am
Leshma, do 21/24, pure 2h.

Enjoy pwning.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Dach on July 19, 2012, 01:14:10 am
Why 21/24 when you can do 24/24  :wink:

8 PS
8 ATH
4 WM

144 2H

 :P
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Jarlek on July 19, 2012, 01:15:32 am
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Attributes to skills: 1
Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Riding: 6
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 100
Two Handed: 107
Polearm: 110

What I'm gonna take if I ever stop retiring.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Tzar on July 19, 2012, 01:16:04 am
Why 21/24 when you can do 24/24  :wink:

8 PS
8 ATH
4 WM

144 2H

 :P

An get killed by 2 bodkins body shots...
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 01:16:36 am
Why 21/24 when you can do 24/24  :wink:

8 PS
8 ATH
4 WM

144 2H

 :P

Because retardation

:)
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Life on July 19, 2012, 01:21:13 am
Heres an idea! Want something everbody fears? That everybody hates? That is so OP? get +3 throwing lances and have
21 str
21 agi
7 ath, pt, ps, wm, and 4 points for whatever you want.(IF most likely)
100 polearm prof (throwing lance's secondary mode, really fast and deadly)
and 150 throwing wpf.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: San on July 19, 2012, 02:35:49 am
21/21

7 PS/ATH/RDNG/WM
4 IF

120 pole
130 1h

Probably the best. 1h/pole cav hybrid is amazing at high levels. I would lose a few WM and put a few in shield, though. Whichever weapon you won't be using a lot on foot, you could leave close to 80-100 wpf and do just fine. 3 shield is enough for a brown lion heater, one of the best.

There are days where you might be bored of one class like cav, but you will still be proficient going all infantry, too, if you wish.

I have 5 WM at 34, and do 131 1h and 95 polearm, and lancer cav is still fine.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 19, 2012, 02:40:52 am
Level 35
53 HP

18 Strength
18 Agility
4 Attribute Points converted to 8 skill points.

6 Power Strike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
6 Riding
3 Horse Archery
6 Power Draw
5 Power Throw
6 Weapon master

1 One Handed
100 Two handed
1 Polearm
112 Archery
3 Crossbow
100 Throwing
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on July 19, 2012, 02:41:01 am
Either san or zappers imo. 1h cav is god like and you would pack a hell of a wallop with either of those.

I would go 24/15 1h cav with xbow and some ath but that's just for strat, probably some throwing wpf so I can use construction gear on siege with out being tea bagged.


Tod is right. That build would be awesome.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 19, 2012, 03:24:56 am
Go 15/24
5pd
7wm
5ps
7shield
4ha
3ath
7riding

155archery wpf
94 1h wpf

Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Dach on July 19, 2012, 03:56:20 am
Because retardation

:)

I like going full retard!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Butan on July 19, 2012, 06:38:32 pm
You break my heart Leshma :(
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Arrowblood on July 19, 2012, 07:15:14 pm

My main target:
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Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 19, 2012, 08:13:39 pm
18/30

6 PS, 10 ATH, 5 IF

121 2h WPF

Get a flamberge or some other long-ass 2h and go to town. I would personally drop 4 IF to get STR up to 20 for the Great Maul. If you want Weapon Master I guess you could just drop down to 27 agility.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: justme on July 19, 2012, 08:21:02 pm
this is my current lvl 35 build, its prety balanced

30 Strength
12 Agility

10 Power Strike
10 Ironflesh
4 Athletics
4 Riding
4 Weapon master

9 Two handed
144 Polearm


but im dreaming about 42/3 or even 45/3
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 19, 2012, 08:22:43 pm
but im dreaming about 42/3 or even 45/3

WAIT A SECOND

45 STR / 3 AGI

3 IF, 15 PS, 1 SHD, 1 ATH

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHH DO IT LESHY DO ITTTT
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: justme on July 19, 2012, 08:26:35 pm
no no no, its a reserved build for me :P 16ps and 5 IF i think
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 19, 2012, 08:43:09 pm
Thanks for suggesting good builds, folks.

However I'm not interested in pure builds, especially not 2H pure builds. I'm playing that for more than a year and frankly speaking, I'm bored of it and probably will never play pure 2H ever again.

@Butan

Sorry but I'm currently playing pure str polearm and it is boring to be slow. It has its advantages but I think that going to extremes is boring and not realistic at all.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 19, 2012, 09:12:36 pm
Thanks for suggesting good builds, folks.

However I'm not interested in pure builds, especially not 2H pure builds. I'm playing that for more than a year and frankly speaking, I'm bored of it and probably will never play pure 2H ever again.
So, what DO you wanna play as?
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Rantrex on July 19, 2012, 10:11:17 pm
Another very good 2h going to get on horse and own everyone, beeing able to chase archers, bump to death and die by pikes.

Generally maybe don't mix totally everything? The option you proposed by urself would be probably best option
Quote from: Leshma
21/21

7 PS/ATH/RDNG/WM
4 IF

120 pole
130 1h
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 19, 2012, 10:50:39 pm
As for archer, I'm planning to turn my alt in full time archer, level 33 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Arrowblood on July 19, 2012, 11:27:18 pm
As for archer, I'm planning to turn my alt in full time archer, level 33 :mrgreen:
do something pure wpf, no gay athl 8-)
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Bjord on July 20, 2012, 12:22:26 am
2h is boring.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on July 20, 2012, 11:29:41 am
2h is boring.
I for one have fun with it and will have in the future, just so you all know. :)


If I had to build some kind of hybrid 35 I would go for 1 melee type and throwing probably. Something like this:

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 64

    Skills to attributes: 4

    Ironflesh: 4
    Power Strike: 7
    Athletics: 7
    Power Throw: 7
    Weapon Master: 7

    Weapon x: 130
    Throwing: 132
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Everkistus on July 20, 2012, 11:57:24 am
18/30

6 PD, 10 WM, 4 ath
192 WPF in archery.

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Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Cup1d on July 20, 2012, 12:23:09 pm
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 56
Attributes to skills: 1
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 4
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 100
Archery: 160
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

lancer \ ha \ fast infantry with pole \ accurate foot archer
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 20, 2012, 12:39:09 pm
@35 these builds come to mind
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Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on July 20, 2012, 01:04:38 pm
btw I would definitely wait until they change wpf before respecing.

haha, that thrower build is awesome!
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2012, 01:38:54 pm
wpf

I'm not sure will I like this mod after they make that change. From what I've read, it sounds like bad idea.

And I know for a fact that neither chadz or cmp know very well how changes they make affect the gameplay.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on July 20, 2012, 01:47:48 pm
fact
I'm careful with those in general.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2012, 01:55:25 pm
Well, I've stated my opinion and this isn't the pace to discuss that topic.

Anyways, 2H/thrower sounds fine but I wouldn't waste couple of mil on that. Always considered throwing and xbow rather cunty classes.

If I don't respec before wpf changes I'll probably make 2h/xbow hybrid (because it won't cost me a thing). Alternative to that is 220 wpf spammer and I don't want that.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Michael on July 20, 2012, 02:52:22 pm
Go one-hand shield hybrid with at least 5 riding.

Reason: Shielder is the only class for real men (and leshbians).

Crossbow is the most boring class ever. (no offense Dave, you know I love you).

Throwing is for people who dont understand melee very well (what you do, lesh). Why else would you want to throw at someone when you can finish him in melee what is way more satisfying.

Archery is the most nooby class right after cavalry.

And 2h/ polearm, well, its for boys with a little issue. Does a leshbian know what I am talking about? Probably not. I mean the bigger the weapon, the smaller...............
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: _Sebastian_ on July 20, 2012, 02:54:46 pm
I havent played crpg for months... and since I'm developing my own mod, I doubt that I will ever play it again. :wink:

But If I ever would reach lvl35 (still need about 75mil xp),
then my build would looks like this:

Quote
Level 35 (180 977 644 xp)

Strength: 30
Agility: 18

Hit points: 65

Power Strike: 4
Power Draw: 10
Weapon Master: 6

Two Handed: 5
Archery: 160
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 20, 2012, 03:47:28 pm
Well, I've stated my opinion and this isn't the pace to discuss that topic.

Anyways, 2H/thrower sounds fine but I wouldn't waste couple of mil on that. Always considered throwing and xbow rather cunty classes.

If I don't respec before wpf changes I'll probably make 2h/xbow hybrid (because it won't cost me a thing). Alternative to that is 220 wpf spammer and I don't want that.
Use the HA/shielder build I posted or I'll cry  :cry:
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: LordBerenger on July 20, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
18/30

6 PS, 10 ATH, 5 IF

121 2h WPF

Get a flamberge or some other long-ass 2h and go to town. I would personally drop 4 IF to get STR up to 20 for the Great Maul. If you want Weapon Master I guess you could just drop down to 27 agility.

...Dude....EPIC BUILD! And then get +3 whole tincan best armor set and you soak all dmg whilst having close to minimal running penalty cuz 10 ath! Athlete runner Tincan? FUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2012, 04:46:41 pm
...Dude....EPIC BUILD! And then get +3 whole tincan best armor set and you soak all dmg whilst having close to minimal running penalty cuz 10 ath! Athlete runner Tincan? FUCK YEAH!

There is a penalty, quite massive. In plate armor with 10 ath you'll feel like 7 ath build in kuyak.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: LordBerenger on July 20, 2012, 04:51:52 pm
There is a penalty, quite massive. In plate armor with 10 ath you'll feel like 7 ath build in kuyak.

Obviously there's a penalty but you still run at a good speed. Or maybe you'll go 27 Agi build and put other points into WM to reduce the penalty for tincan armor. The point is. Hitting at a fast/decent speed and running at a midfast/decent speed whilst being in uber heavy close to invincible armor.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2012, 05:08:29 pm
I'm pretty sure WM doesn't affect running speed when wearing plate as much many people think. I currently have 8 WM and when I put on Heraldic plate my speed and acceleration suffer, a lot.

Btw. 27/18 build in kuyak, with heavy gauntlets owns 18/30 build in plate.

TurmoilTom's build has 63 HP, 27 STR 9 IF build has 80 HP. That doesn't seem like much on paper but it's massive difference in battle.

Also full plate build is 79 body armor, light kuyak with plate gloves build has 62 body armor. It is a big difference in numbers but in battle it's pretty situational. Ranged will ignore your armor, just like most players who use pierce/blunt weapons. Those who use cut weapons will sometimes glance but sometimes will deal epic damage thanks to speed bonus and you'll lose half or more of your 63 HP in just one hit.

Agi build wearing plate armor is bad idea.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: LordBerenger on July 20, 2012, 05:29:17 pm
I'm pretty sure WM doesn't affect running speed when wearing plate as much many people think. I currently have 8 WM and when I put on Heraldic plate my speed and acceleration suffer, a lot.

Btw. 27/18 build in kuyak, with heavy gauntlets owns 18/30 build in plate.

TurmoilTom's build has 63 HP, 27 STR 9 IF build has 80 HP. That doesn't seem like much on paper but it's massive difference in battle.

Also full plate build is 79 body armor, light kuyak with plate gloves build has 62 body armor. It is a big difference in numbers but in battle it's pretty situational. Ranged will ignore your armor, just like most players who use pierce/blunt weapons. Those who use cut weapons will sometimes glance but sometimes will deal epic damage thanks to speed bonus and you'll lose half or more of your 63 HP in just one hit.

Agi build wearing plate armor is bad idea.

I'm talking fully +3 tincan set. With the one with most armor +3'd. Also WM affects weapon speed doesn't it? Which is what i meant :P
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Jarlek on July 20, 2012, 05:55:22 pm
I'm talking fully +3 tincan set. With the one with most armor +3'd. Also WM affects weapon speed doesn't it? Which is what i meant :P
Leshma was talking about movement speed.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Butan on July 20, 2012, 06:30:10 pm
Perfect level 35 build for you in my mind would be a char capable of avoiding clusterfucks while flanking, so definitely above average/high athletic to outrun most meleists and also to enforce your footwork on others (judging the average athletic for meleist to 6ATH, should have 7 if wearing medium armor, 8 if wearing a bit above).

Enough power strike to kill 95% of the players in 3 hits max (depending on your weapon/damage type, between 6 and 8 PS: 6 being short blunt/pierce weapon, 8 being long cut weapon) and will give you a large choice of IF levels (I personaly advise going full throttle for IF, or NONE, because the HP bonus is too small compared to the armor if you dont go at the maximum) and good speed penalty reduction if you decide to wear above medium armor class.

Obviously putting all WPF in your weapon of choice (2H or Pole if I'm right), and nothing elsewhere judging your dislike for missiles from afar.



This kind of build will need a lot of skills to attributes, so you will have only a few skills maxed : ATH/PS/ no IF or full IF/ a bit of WM (could change when WPF patch comes).



I know you love swords even though my mastery at morningstar made you go out of your way sometimes ( :mrgreen: ) so I will make a bet and give you a build that would give you :


- Enough power to kill anyone in 3 strikes with a great sword or anything akin to (except trololo str builds who will still need between 3 and 7 hits... but this you already know)
 
- Enough speed to avoid any situations you dont want to take part in, speed to chase any archers, speed to footwork handily in a duel/group fight (except trololo agi builds who will be able to avoid you, or chase you... but this you already know)

- NO IF = this would take too much investment and you are more than able to parry most blades going your way, and your speed will give you more chance to avoid ganking which is the bane of every players (in the worst cases, your mail will protect you enough)

- Enough WPF (for the time being) to swing with proficiency, but nothing spammy (with final effective WPF of 120+ except if you take up any heavy armor)



Transmits to:


Level : 35
HP : 59
Skills to attribute : 16

Strength : 24
Agility : 24

Power Strike : 8
Athletics : 8
Weapon Master : 4

WPF (of your choice) : 144




Now if you want to not rage too much about ranged and/or other bundle of sticksry, switch 3 points of agility to strength and lessen PS/ATH by 1 point, putting 0 points in WM (at lvl 35 you'll still have 100+ effective WPF in medium armor)  while giving the rest to IF; having more HP and a bit less speed/force but way enough for most encounters.



Level : 35
HP : 74
Skills to attribute : 16

Strength : 27
Agility : 21

Iron Flesh : 6
Power Strike : 7
Athletics : 7

WPF (of your choice) : 121



Will be glad to see you with your final build, whatever it is, in the dayz to come  :wink:
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Auphilia on July 20, 2012, 07:51:25 pm
You could be one of the best kiting archers in the game. It would take multiple cav to catch you, or experienced counter-ranged.
Melee bonuses aren't as noticeable in the end, imo.

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Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2012, 08:52:26 pm
You're right. That build is probably the most OP thing next to fast lancer but I'm not too popular as 2H and as kiting archer I would be even more hated, especially when I get hang of it. Game modification Lungy style included :D
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Butan on July 20, 2012, 09:08:50 pm
Oh yeah, if you ever feel like hybridizing ( like you said in your first post, forgot to look for what YOU wanted :o ) and keeping 2H as your main, look out for ZlicedBacon, he did some nasty 2H/throwing - 2H/1H/shield - 2H/ whatever hybrids and really efficient on the battlefield (and he's not lvl 35 !).
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on July 21, 2012, 01:55:10 am
Oh yeah, if you ever feel like hybridizing ( like you said in your first post, forgot to look for what YOU wanted :o ) and keeping 2H as your main, look out for ZlicedBacon, he did some nasty 2H/throwing - 2H/1H/shield - 2H/ whatever hybrids and really efficient on the battlefield (and he's not lvl 35 !).
That's just general 2h opness.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Bjord on July 21, 2012, 04:10:36 am
What about HX/bumpslasher?

Kill archers and horses alike, NP!
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Dach on July 21, 2012, 08:46:53 am
HX hybrid is mine!

Here's my lvl 35 build.

15 Str
24 Agi

4 IF
5 PS
4 Shield
8 ATH
5 Riding
4 HA
8 WM

140 xbow
100 1h
100 2h

or

140 xbow
132 2h

 :)

Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: RUSSOxD2366 on July 21, 2012, 11:03:22 am
BE A REAL SPARTAN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: DaveUKR on July 21, 2012, 11:17:49 am
My lvl35 build (i'm currently 33 since like autumn) looks like this:

15-30, 5 PS, 1 IF, 10 ATH, 10 WM, 179 xbow wpf, 101 2h wpf
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Riddaren on July 21, 2012, 09:09:17 pm
I believe riding is the most rewarding skill to invest in.

Weapon profiency isn't a requirement to do well as a lancer or a one handad cavalryman.
It surely helps but I've tried both with only 1 WPF and still performed well.

I can top the scoreboards with just a great lance and a rouncey.
But not because I'm the skilled one but because most enemy players are noobs or unaware.

You can't do that with archery or throwing. They require WPF to be useful.
Using a crossbow can still be quite effective with just 1 WPF though (on the other hand there is no skill requirement).

This is the perfect level 35 build for a dedicated lancer IMO:

21/21 70hp
7 IF
7 PS
7 RI
7 AT
4 SH or 4 WM


I rather have 7 atlhetics and 0 WM as a lancer than the other way around.
And I rather have 7 athletics than 0 athletics and 1 extra power strike or riding.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 22, 2012, 07:45:04 am
When I mentioned the 18/30 build the whole point was to use light armor and a long 2h, not plate armor :l

A +3 Flammy with over-the-top speed bonus is nothing to laugh at. I was level 32 at one point with an 18/27 build with a flammy and the only thing I had to worry about was ranged. I could survive almost indefinitely against anything else given I didn't get risky with my distancing.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 22, 2012, 04:46:14 pm
I would go:
24/21

8 ironflesh
8 powerstrike
7 athletics
3 weapon master

138 2h wpf

This build would rape so hard..

But I play other classes on alts, if you want to do multiple things then this isn't the build for you.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on July 23, 2012, 02:17:30 am
Put everything in riding, PS, and maybe like 2/3 shield.

Unkillable cavgod lancergay.
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 23, 2012, 03:07:36 am
24/24 8 ps 8 riding 4 shield but then again ig you' not popular with a 2h and that bothers you I think cav is the last thing you want. :P

Or 21/24 7 ps 8 riding 4 shield 7 if 70 hp, way to get people real mad!
Title: Re: Perfect level 35 build
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on July 24, 2012, 12:18:14 am
Level:           35

Strength:        15
Agility:         30

Skill to attr:   10

Ironflash:        1
Power Strike:     5
Athletics:       10
Weapon Master:   10

Crossbow:       192

12 prof left over for class of your choice.