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Title: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Tovi on July 18, 2012, 08:51:18 pm
I'm going to lvl 32 with a ultra hybrid 1h/2h +shield + cav+ xbow  :mrgreen:

15/21
Weapon Master:7
Athletics:6
Riding:5
Iron Flesh:5
Shield:4
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:5
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:0

1H 126
2H 126

I've got the choice to go Cav 7 or to go PT 2 (Francisca).
But I will have only 40 wpf at throwing, that would allow me only a very light armor (less than 14).
Or go cav 7 for mounted xbow.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Dach on July 19, 2012, 01:04:25 am
No Xbow wpf???

My build for that would be (and might actually go for that as my last build, only missing one heirloom)

15 STR
21 AGI

5 IF
5 PS
5 SHIELD
7 ATH
3 RIDING
3 HA
7 WM

100 1H
100 2H
121 XBOW

(Add up my current MW items, fighting axe, elite cav shield, light crossbow, steel bolts, studded leather over mail, mail gauntlets, khergit cavalry helmet, rus cav boots and rouncey and you're all set!!!  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Tovi on July 19, 2012, 06:46:50 am
I don't see what xbow wpf really change. I shoot straight right without nothing.
Maybe reload speed and upkeep ?
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Winterly on July 19, 2012, 07:35:01 am
damage or reload speed?
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Torost on July 19, 2012, 09:26:34 am
I have very little experience playing cav.

But I have always wondered why cav would use 2 diffrent fightingstyles. Spending wpf of both.
Is it not better to find a Polearm or 2Hand that works from horse, aswell as on foot?

Like a Hafted Blade/Glaive or Morningstar?

Sure , it might be an odd playstyle, but the upside is you only need to bring 1 weapon, and since you do not split your wpf, you will get less repaircost. 1 MW item. And you are more proficient.

Forget the shield, get some tincan armor, the horse will carry you anyway.
And the no-req 1slotcrossbow (Light crossbow or hunting)
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Corwin on July 19, 2012, 09:41:57 am
I don't see what xbow wpf really change. I shoot straight right without nothing.
Maybe reload speed and upkeep ?

No, you don't.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on July 19, 2012, 12:36:12 pm
damage or reload speed?

xbow wpf dont give bonus dmg, it give only accuracy and reload speed, between 1 and 100 is not rly big difference, you will see good acc boost only with 150wpf or higher.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Christo on July 19, 2012, 12:46:10 pm
Don't forget the decreased upkeep chances.

Even if it barely does something.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: oprah_winfrey on July 19, 2012, 01:58:38 pm
xbow wpf dont give bonus dmg, it give only accuracy and reload speed, between 1 and 100 is not rly big difference, you will see good acc boost only with 150wpf or higher.

Wpf hasnt increased reload speed anymore. It only increases accuracy now
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Phew on July 19, 2012, 04:30:47 pm
Play around on the damage calculator http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm (http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm), and you'll see that any Power Throw less than 4 does pitiful damage compared to even a light crossbow. You don't just throw a couple points in power throw, you either go hybrid with 4/5 PT, or full throwing with 8+. So I suggest going 7 ath/7 riding when you level.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Tovi on July 20, 2012, 12:43:37 am
That was my first idea. I've a thrower alt wich i'll retire soon and I fear to be frustated without anything to throw on faces  8-)

Maybe i should get some 2 points at HA instead.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Dach on July 20, 2012, 01:14:19 am
Yes you should, really help.  :)
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Mlekce on July 20, 2012, 01:24:28 am
with 5 ps don't bother putting that points in 1h. You will not hit anything.
I have better suggestion. Why don't you make your main with some pure build like pure 2h or pure 1h or pure cav...
And then make some alts and play with them classes you like. You don't even need to retire that alts,one week of playing and you will have 30 lvl alt.
What is the point of getting to higher lvl then 31 if you are gonna make some shit hybrid build that is strang as 30 lvl one.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Dach on July 20, 2012, 02:55:50 am
maybe because he want to have 2 tactical option on the battlefield that are as good as any other lvl 30 character IN THE SAME CHARACTER.

Also can have the same 2 option in Strat as you can only use your main there.  :wink:
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Tovi on July 20, 2012, 10:06:38 am
Yep, exactly. And also to not spend time and XP to lvl up alts.
I know i'm not so powerfull but I've a lot of fun that way.
I like to switch my Langes Messer 1H/2H in a fight. It gives me more combat options and surprise effect.

I could build a 2 hander tincan 36/3 but it's quite boring.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Trikipum on July 20, 2012, 10:34:43 am
I'm going to lvl 32 with a ultra hybrid 1h/2h +shield + cav+ xbow  :mrgreen:

15/21
Weapon Master:7
Athletics:6
Riding:5
Iron Flesh:5
Shield:4
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:5
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:0

1H 126
2H 126

I've got the choice to go Cav 7 or to go PT 2 (Francisca).
But I will have only 40 wpf at throwing, that would allow me only a very light armor (less than 14).
Or go cav 7 for mounted xbow.
Not having ATH 7 with that build is a crime... seriously....
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Trikipum on July 20, 2012, 10:38:14 am
with 5 ps don't bother putting that points in 1h. You will not hit anything.
I have better suggestion. Why don't you make your main with some pure build like pure 2h or pure 1h or pure cav...
And then make some alts and play with them classes you like. You don't even need to retire that alts,one week of playing and you will have 30 lvl alt.
What is the point of getting to higher lvl then 31 if you are gonna make some shit hybrid build that is strang as 30 lvl one.
Lies, you are fine with ps5, its not the most optimal for 1h but you will kill anyway, specially from horseback. I always leave my last ps6 point for the end of my leveling and i dont many troubles killing all my way to level 31.....
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Tovi on July 20, 2012, 11:21:27 am
I will go Ath 7 at lvl 32. I'd better sacrifice 1 point If than Ath, I must admit.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Mlekce on July 21, 2012, 12:13:09 pm
Lies, you are fine with ps5, its not the most optimal for 1h but you will kill anyway, specially from horseback. I always leave my last ps6 point for the end of my leveling and i dont many troubles killing all my way to level 31.....

trikipuma you are rider,as infrantery you need to have 7-8ps because when you encounter someone in plate or heavy armored 2h heroes you cant do much dmg.
You can if you use steel pick or some other lame blunt/pierce weapon,but if you use sword it will glance,and bounce,and not deal much dmg.
More hits you need to kill,bigger the chance to die. You need to set up your build to kill everything in 2,max 3 hits or you are completly usless as 1h.
Axmen will barake your shield in 2 hits,2h heroes have more athl,and use kick often,and spam like ninjas,ninjas will spam like crazy,so you have one chance to kill it.
Being shielder is fustrating.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Teeth on July 21, 2012, 02:22:57 pm
I can never understand how people can bear playing these builds that make you inferior at three things.
Title: Re: Level 32 dilema
Post by: Rhekimos on July 21, 2012, 02:45:37 pm
I can never understand how people can bear playing these builds that make you inferior at three things.

The satisfaction you get from beating "pure" builds is immense.