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Title: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 17, 2012, 11:29:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdBhdO8OZTI&feature=youtu.be

Just some quick melee action.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Rhaelys on July 17, 2012, 11:52:35 am
Needs more right swing.
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Post by: Wiltzu on July 17, 2012, 12:07:03 pm
Nice
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Post by: sF_Guardian on July 17, 2012, 12:09:53 pm
Noone blocks there, lol
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 17, 2012, 01:54:23 pm
I like it allthough I wouldn't record any night maps, You see very little of whats really happening, anyways, a mighty good +1, keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 17, 2012, 05:59:22 pm
Needs more right swing.

guess im gonna have to make a right swing only vid just 4 u
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 17, 2012, 06:01:27 pm
Guys you're really impressed by spamming, backstabbing, kill stealing and backpeddaling... Oh he is so cooooool.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 17, 2012, 06:02:34 pm
Guys you're really impressed by spamming, backstabbing, kill stealing and backpeddaling... Oh he is so cooooool.

Its NA man...
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Adamar on July 17, 2012, 06:03:01 pm
Dirty NA spamming backstabber!

Still liked the vid.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Kelugarn on July 17, 2012, 06:06:48 pm
I love how right in the beginning you get hit by a war-hammer or something and take 0 damage  :lol:
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Sultan Eren on July 17, 2012, 06:07:24 pm
Sorry i don't respect glaive.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 17, 2012, 06:45:13 pm
Sorry i don't respect glaive.

I didn't make the video for your nerdy respect lol

I am advertising cRPG.

Guess i'm the only one who wants a bigger population.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Sarpton on July 17, 2012, 07:01:12 pm
Yes you are!  And you had best remember that fact! 



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Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 17, 2012, 07:14:31 pm
Sorry i don't respect glaive.
^ this
and more lmb PLS
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: HarunYahya on July 17, 2012, 07:18:08 pm
lol in 230 seconds you only blocked 11 times.
NA...
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 17, 2012, 07:20:55 pm
Its NA man...

It's funny because of how many S-key heroes are in EU.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 17, 2012, 07:28:04 pm
It's funny because of how many S-key heroes are in EU.
1. your na you cant actually vote for that
2. we dont have many glaive spammers i mean those that really cant block like him
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 17, 2012, 07:38:08 pm
lol adino stop "-1"ing all posts from the guys that dislike the vid
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 17, 2012, 07:41:12 pm
lol adino stop "-1"ing all posts from the guys that dislike the vid

i'm disliking trolls

not honest critics
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 17, 2012, 07:41:51 pm
i'm disliking trolls

not honest critics

we dont troll we tell you the truth
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 17, 2012, 07:45:56 pm
i'm disliking trolls

not honest critics

Im not trolling, combat on Na is different then EU combat, on EU even most of the archers block quite okay,
the woodcutter rampage does mostly not work there.
Im not telling EU is better, I just tell what I experienced.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 17, 2012, 08:11:48 pm
1. your na you cant actually vote for that
2. we dont have many glaive spammers i mean those that really cant block like him

1.) I spend 30% of my time playing on EU with my main or alts. 35 Fallen are NA, 65 are EU, now you tell me where we play the most.
2.) I never said a word about glaives, spammers or blocking.
3.) Titty sprinkles.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Aseplhood on July 17, 2012, 08:18:07 pm
Fighting with a glaive and being an effective killer doesn't mean you're skilled.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 17, 2012, 08:20:13 pm
1.) I spend 30% of my time playing on EU with my main or alts. 35 Fallen are NA, 65 are EU, now you tell me where we play the most.
2.) I never said a word about glaives, spammers or blocking.
3.) Titty sprinkles.
1. But my comment was about the glaive guys so i answered for them. and actually we have spammers but i also play on na and youve a lot more
2. ^
3. i love tits
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 17, 2012, 08:20:17 pm
I've played on EU and NA and find them somewhat similar as far as amount of blocking etc. 

That being said, some people in NA do not block much.  Some of them are very high strength. 

Also, sometimes I pee then I poop.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Gricks on July 17, 2012, 08:24:57 pm
I don't see Sosarian claiming skill anywhere. Anyways +1. Always love to see more crpg videos.

Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tanken on July 17, 2012, 10:36:14 pm
0:45 to 1:38, best conversation we ever had in our teamspeak.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 18, 2012, 12:06:58 am
0:45 to 1:38, best conversation we ever had in our teamspeak.

rofl that convo was extra special...ed
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Adamar on July 18, 2012, 12:10:05 am
You should turn teamspeak off, it drives possible female players away.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Casimir on July 18, 2012, 12:24:02 am
It's funny because of how many S-key heroes are in EU.

Its funny because of how many Americans stack strength, run into S-Key Heros and cry about it?
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 18, 2012, 12:26:14 am
Its funny because of how many Americans stack strength, run into S-Key Heros and cry about it?

no num skull

it's funny because so many s key heroes cry about str builds , its not the other way around
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Casimir on July 18, 2012, 12:26:58 am
2h cav is the superior race, all others can go to hell.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: dreadnok on July 18, 2012, 07:10:25 am
Its funny because of how many Americans stack strength, run into S-Key Heros and cry about it?
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 Prob the same amount of euro cunts tgat go agility so they can spam away and back up fast cause they suck dick at blocking. It goes both ways jerkoff
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on July 18, 2012, 07:29:52 am
Some of that footage looked like single player :|

2h cav is the superior race, all others can go to hell.

You lie it's 1h cav.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Life on July 18, 2012, 07:42:58 am
this video makes me want to go polearm and buy a +3 glaive.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tom Cruise on July 18, 2012, 09:21:57 am
LOL so what I'm getting from all of the EU people saying with the NA backpeddling and spamming is that EU must have some crazy jedi tricks that they do in situations like that. EU is probably right since he has a longer weapon then most of the people there and is outnumbered most of the time, he should probably try and facehug them so hard that he can smell the other guys breath, and that he should try and time his shots carefully when being swarmed. Seems legit.

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Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: ShinySpoons on July 18, 2012, 10:01:51 am
Whats with all the random shit talkers
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 18, 2012, 10:07:57 am
LOL so what I'm getting from all of the EU people saying with the NA backpeddling and spamming is that EU must have some crazy jedi tricks that they do in situations like that. EU is probably right since he has a longer weapon then most of the people there and is outnumbered most of the time, he should probably try and facehug them so hard that he can smell the other guys breath, and that he should try and time his shots carefully when being swarmed. Seems legit.

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I had many situations like that and I facehug them turn to other opponents I don't spam I fuckn block the most swings
Maybe NA doesn't know this because you don't have skilled players
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tom Cruise on July 18, 2012, 11:22:58 am
I had many situations like that and I facehug them turn to other opponents I don't spam I fuckn block the most swings
Maybe NA doesn't know this because you don't have skilled players

You're right. We should learn how to block multiple directions at once and since we are surrounded by enemies we should block all attack at a 360 degree radius such as an attack from the back. Sorry NA can't compete the the Wizards and EU.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 18, 2012, 12:48:44 pm
You're right. We should learn how to block multiple directions at once and since we are surrounded by enemies we should block all attack at a 360 degree radius such as an attack from the back. Sorry NA can't compete the the Wizards and EU.

Does NA know the word movement? And being able to block fast more than 1 Swing? I think no that's why all of you suck and just spam.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 01:04:15 pm
You want honest criticism? I liked the video, it was fun to see quick action. But that's all it was: Action.

Skill-wise(and not only yours), not much was standing out besides your obviously awesome and overpowered build. Mainly it was not your skill that allowed you to score so many kills but rather the lack of it from people on the receiving end. Many times people would drop their blocks when they easily could have blocked you. I think it's mainly that when they get hit by you, they lose about 80%-90% hp and are demoralized, thus resort to reckless actions.

But I'll give you one thing: You're good at slipping away from ganks relatively unharmed. And considering everything above, good at taking advantage of people's mistakes.

So all it takes for average NA skill is to increase. I think NA top players are pretty equal to EU top players but not the average skill level, EU wins in that aspect.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 18, 2012, 01:04:44 pm
Guys you're really impressed by spamming, backstabbing, kill stealing and backpeddaling... Oh he is so cooooool.

I just like watching c-rpg vids, since there are so little of them.. And besides that, knowing the community a little, people will rant on every video made claiming they're better and all that e-peen bussines, video's are made for entertainment, imo ofc, and not for displaying ones skill.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on July 18, 2012, 01:30:20 pm
So much Nationalistic rage. Yeah there was some players who couldn't block, so what? EU has it's fair share of those players as well. Yes we have a number of STR builds, just as you have a number of AGI builds. The point is, stop bringing your nationalistic douchebag comments here, and enjoy it for what it is, promotion of this mod and hopefully pulling more to the playerbase. Not "ohmahgawd EU/NA is so much better than EU/NA because of a 3 minute video, it obviously showcases the entire spectrum of players on these servers".  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 02:12:28 pm
Europe is not a nation, you know.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Torak on July 18, 2012, 02:19:17 pm
You want honest criticism? I liked the video, it was fun to see quick action. But that's all it was: Action.

Skill-wise(and not only yours), not much was standing out besides your obviously awesome and overpowered build. Mainly it was not your skill that allowed you to score so many kills but rather the lack of it from people on the receiving end. Many times people would drop their blocks when they easily could have blocked you. I think it's mainly that when they get hit by you, they lose about 80%-90% hp and are demoralized, thus resort to reckless actions.

But I'll give you one thing: You're good at slipping away from ganks relatively unharmed. And considering everything above, good at taking advantage of people's mistakes.

So all it takes for average NA skill is to increase. I think NA top players are pretty equal to EU top players but not the average skill level, EU wins in that aspect.

This ------^

Well said Bjord
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Aderyn on July 18, 2012, 02:20:35 pm
Can't hear you guys arguing over the sound of how awesome archery is.

also, nice vid. Wierd how noone blocks. :P
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 18, 2012, 02:38:09 pm
subbed btw.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tom Cruise on July 18, 2012, 08:41:43 pm
Does NA know the word movement? And being able to block fast more than 1 Swing? I think no that's why all of you suck and just spam.

lol dude....if multiple people are swinging at you simultaneously from multiple directions, what do you do then? Tell me how you would handle that.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 08:46:05 pm
i'm disliking trolls

not honest critics

Yet you minus'd my "honest" criticism. :wink:

Guess you're no different from those trolls, and you can't even deal with criticism.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 18, 2012, 08:50:30 pm
Hmm, to the contrary I think yours was a rather un-trollish answer from what I've seen of you Bjord, I like it.

So all it takes for average NA skill is to increase. I think NA top players are pretty equal to EU top players but not the average skill level, EU wins in that aspect.

This aspect of the AVERAGE player on NA (usually middle of scoreboard) not being as skilled as the AVERAGE one on EU may be true, I don't know.  I do agree that there are good players on both. But I will say this - watching this video I'm wondering where the skilled players are too, and I am NA, so it could have just been a bad time of day or something. 

Either way this video does not represent the skill level of play that is USUALLY present in NA servers.
I think the good to very good players on both EU and NA are roughly equal.

Sosarian is a dangerous opponent for sure, and if he gets a first shot it does take a LOT of your life...but if you block the next one, get in tight (preferably with a pierce or blunt weapon cause of his high armor) you can take him out cause he is slow.  Just block the right swing :)
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 09:29:18 pm
Well naturally that video is a poor representation of NA skill, one reason being the player starring in it, the other the fact itself that it is a video.

A fair representation or opinion would be either a collection of videos spanning a few days of documentation of the NA battle server, highlighting various aspects of the player base or a simple matter of playing in NA for a few weeks(exclusively), then going back to your native servers with the impression fresh in your memory.

The latter being prone to biased opinion regardless.

Anyway, my interest for this thread has long expired; ciao.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 18, 2012, 09:35:26 pm
lol...

Yeah I agree...I think one thing to look at is the server population (low).  Usually that means midday or late late late at night (NA timeszones) and that is usually not when the best people are on from what I've seen - especially during the day.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 18, 2012, 11:19:53 pm
is everyone in eu a troll? I mean this whole jealousy of americans thing does get old.. you guys just seem pathetic
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 18, 2012, 11:35:46 pm
...in before EU vs NA forum battle.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


...annnnnnnd....GO
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 11:36:08 pm
is everyone in eu a troll? I mean this whole jealousy of americans thing does get old.. you guys just seem pathetic

You open with a retarded question only to end it with a hypocritical and not to mention ironic statement. You sir, are the pathetic one.

I never said anything that could be seen as EU biased or NA biased, I just said you weren't really an especially skilled player and this seems to have really ticked you off. Maybe you should stop recording these "action" videos if you can't handle criticism. :wink:

If you can't take the heat, get the fuck off the stage.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Osiris on July 18, 2012, 11:36:36 pm
so anyone from eu who doesnt insta worship your awesomeness is a troll? :D Bjord is a troll but that was a serious post.

on another note a video wont say much for average skill. you need a lot of hours to figure that out :) Im a pretty mediocre 2/pole and maybe a lil over mediocre (maybe not) 1h. Ive topped eu1 many times and if i was taping them i would look awesome or more likley most of my enemies would die to ganks or mistakes. sometimes i die early via gank or tactical mistake or random shots.  If i showed a video of me going 20-4 or 15-2 then im sure NA players would troll :D

There is one simple fact :) You cannot compare EU and NA unless you have lived in NA and EU. Ping difference counts. 40 or 120 it really does. when i play to eu some of my swings look epically timed to NA or holding simply due to ping :P



that a bjord is a terribad player :D
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 18, 2012, 11:38:09 pm
You open with a retarded question only to end it with a hypocritical and not to mention ironic statement. You sir, are the pathetic one.

I never said anything that could be seen as EU biased or NA biased, I just said you weren't really an especially skilled player and this seems to have really ticked you off. Maybe you should stop recording these "action" videos if you can't handle criticism. :wink:

If you can't take the heat, get the fuck off the stage.

I challenge you to a 1v1 [VIDEO] show down

make a vid or forfeit the match newb
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 18, 2012, 11:42:31 pm
Yet you minus'd my "honest" criticism. :wink:

Guess you're no different from those trolls, and you can't even deal with criticism.

Had to give Bjord a +1... uhm...:(

Do that vid. Bjord, please
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 11:44:12 pm
:lol:

I'm convinced, this guy has suffered some serious brain damage.

First of all, do you, stupid little American, realize that not everyone can record on their computers/laptops?

Secondly, as I already stated, you are at best a mediocre player so any more videos from you will not change that fact. Are you aware of the saying "quantity is not quality"?

Go scrub some more, scrub.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 18, 2012, 11:46:01 pm
:lol:

I'm convinced, this guy has suffered some serious brain damage.

First of all, do you, stupid little American, realize that not everyone can record on their computers/laptops?

Secondly, as I already stated, you are at best a mediocre player so any more videos from you will not change that fact. Are you aware of the saying "quantity is not quality"?

Go scrub some more, scrub.

typical troll

all talk
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 18, 2012, 11:48:27 pm
typical troll

all talk

Typical retard.

Brainless.

Also, minusing every post of mine only makes you look like a butthurt scrub. That said, please keep doing it, you only have a bit to go from full retard.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 18, 2012, 11:51:00 pm
I challenge you to a 1v1 [VIDEO] show down

make a vid or forfeit the match newb
You will lose even with ping on your side i mean bjord is not the best but still not bad
(If youre better than him then you cant be his friend thats why he doesnt have any)

lol dude....if multiple people are swinging at you simultaneously from multiple directions, what do you do then? Tell me how you would handle that.
 

I already did.
Well it depends on the enemies and the number lets say 4 enemies: 1 2hander, 1 Shielder, 2 Polearms.

At first I wouldnt let them circle me so I run back and advance a few meters when I attack or I let them purposly circle me and then I would make the that what I told you with the movement blocking thing. I would block the swing of the 1hander and would try to move so I don't have to block the other swings maybe they th eachother or I've to block a 2nd time if so then I've no attacking period so I've to block again (they stun) and I'll try to switch the enemies and so on all those tricks tbh I'm to lazy and tired to write much now

Dont take it serious bjord :D

Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 19, 2012, 12:54:52 am
Leonidas you should save some face while you still have any... your posts get more ridiculous each time rofl
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 01:01:52 am
Leonidas you should save some face while you still have any... your posts get more ridiculous each time rofl

How can you even write that with a straight face? :lol:
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on July 19, 2012, 01:04:05 am
Europe is not a nation, you know.

I don't believe I stated it was. I simply generalized EU with my statement, mainly due to the fact that I don't feel like spending time writing out every nation of every player that plays EU. I don't care what nation you're from, this was bringing about many very aggressive nationalistic comments, from both NA and EU. I could care less what specific nation you hail from.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 01:05:52 am
Nice attitude.

And you call us trash?
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 19, 2012, 01:24:55 am
Not worth it Applesauce :)
Notice the "watched" ....there's a reason for that

....he's a
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Everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of....trolldom
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Leshma on July 19, 2012, 01:31:08 am
Gameplay of Bjord (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZoUifzN8r4&feature=youtu.be)

This is random video taken by other player. Nothing staged, totally random gameplay.

Action starts at one minute mark. In first five seconds Bjord blocked more attacks than The_Sosarian_Knight in whole video. Bjord didn't kill as many players but that's because he's not pure STR build, he uses short weapon and players he's playing against aren't just waiting for him to slay them.

Currently I'm also playing 36/3 polearm build. But I'm not using heavy armor and long weapon, actually I use one of the shorter and less damaging polearms (Iron Staff) and have 11 body armor rating, 9 leg armor rating and zero head armor rating. Still, sheer amount of HP allows me to tank up to 3 regular hits, sometimes more.

Having a lot hit points is the most important thing in cRPG, makes more difference than having high armor rating. Those two combined make you almost invincible, able to tank anywhere between 5 and 20 hits. That's just absurd.

I mean, you survived FIVE maul overheads...

Skill is chambering with long dagger while wearing light armor. Tanking doesn't require skill, anyone can do that.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 19, 2012, 01:35:19 am
Just look at 1:15 when he blocks the poke and a rightswing of an oppnent in a matter of less that a second...
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: wayyyyyne on July 19, 2012, 01:44:47 am
Just look at 1:15 when he blocks the poke and a rightswing of an oppnent in a matter of less that a second...

mad blocking skillz
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 19, 2012, 01:45:37 am
First off, indeed nice blocking Bjord.

Leshma - not that you're saying this, but keep in mind everyone that not all players on NA are heavy strength/IF/armor

For instance I am 21/21 with MW Longsword and 2 IF
I wear Lordly Transitional but that's mostly just cause I love how it looks :)  And I can still move pretty fast in it with my stats.

If I don't block, I'm...
1) not getting to anyone with my short reach
2) gonna get killed in 2-3 shots from strength players

Many others on NA build similar to this too....and block quite well (much better than me)
IE - Carebear & Miley
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Canary on July 19, 2012, 02:17:05 am
It goes to show you that people see what they want to see.

For example, in the video of Bjord he manages to teamwound at least twice. In Sosarian's video, he only teamwounds once, despite the video being longer. He also fights alongside his team more often, whereas you see Bjord mostly supporting his team only to attack enemies chasing them from behind. He dies at the end due to a failed hold-thrust.

One could make arguments for either one being better. Sosarian is good at placing his attacks and got a perfect kick-attack off, Bjord is good at blocking and got a perfect chamber off.


That said, Sosarian's video is of siege, not battle, and nobody goddamn blocks on siege.


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Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 19, 2012, 02:28:33 am
+1 on all aspects canary ...

except - people DO block on siege damnit.

if its not the EU hating the NA its the battler's hating the sieger's ......


le sigh. 
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 02:32:06 am
I would hardly call that a teamwound, when it glances(not even a clean hit) in my teammate's face due to terrain elevation screwing up my swing.

And I was running behind my team because I had 50% hp left after the crossbow shot and the rus bow hit, usually I'm in the front sneaking in overheads with nice and thin 1h animations.

Also, that was not a hold thrust lol, it was recorded on the second day after turn speed limit for overhead and thrust hit EU, I had respecced the day before and was struggling with the 1h thrust.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Ad1no on July 19, 2012, 02:35:12 am
Canary wins thread.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 19, 2012, 02:36:48 am
Canary wins thread.

Ad1no wins special price for "-" the most posts, all thine hard work payeth off!
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Canary on July 19, 2012, 04:21:24 am
except - people DO block on siege damnit.

I know, I was just being facetious. More of the impatient players tend to play on siege, though, since they don't have to wait for an entire round to be over to play. Historically this meant that the general amount of bad players on siege was much higher, but these days it's not as noticeably different.


I would hardly call that a teamwound, when it glances(not even a clean hit) in my teammate's face due to terrain elevation screwing up my swing.

Like I said, people see what they want to see.

Also, that was not a hold thrust lol, it was recorded on the second day after turn speed limit for overhead and thrust hit EU, I had respecced the day before and was struggling with the 1h thrust.

You chambered your attack and pulled it back, aiming down and turning right, then before you released it you started turning back towards the guy. It wasn't an instant release, and that is called a hold, even if it's a short one.

And I was running behind my team because I had 50% hp left after the crossbow shot and the rus bow hit, usually I'm in the front sneaking in overheads with nice and thin 1h animations.

I don't doubt that two and a half minutes of footage isn't a complete representation of how you play, I was just making the point that from the videos, the conclusions to be made in a general sense are very limited. Just like merely looking at one short video doesn't give people the credence  to say things like "NA can't block!"
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Elindor on July 19, 2012, 04:23:38 am
I agree with that statement about siege Canary.

I do think that the population has shifted though  as you mentioned.  More and more good players are playing siege and the skill level is rising more and more.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 04:26:11 am
Well people shouting "NA can't block!" were not using their brains to form those words.

That is just stupid. But Sosarian is a mediocre player, he just knows to how exploit(not same as cheating) some people's lack of skill. Which I said in a much more diplomatic manner and would have continued to do so had he been able to accept my criticism.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Cicero on July 19, 2012, 04:27:36 am
"NA can't block!"
When i play in a strategus battle against many NA player on the enemy side i turn to a bot, just block + attack thats how i manage to get top scorer even if its totally an NA battle.

You guys can not block just face the fuckin fact.

Noone , Noone in Na can beat a normal player in EU , i m not speaking about bjord , tor or phrex ; its getting totally deeper like i can say "you can't even hit " if you gonna argue about those names.

Footwork  No
Double attack No
Trying to chamber No
Just Blindly Spam Yes

Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Canary on July 19, 2012, 04:33:29 am
When i play in a strategus battle against many NA player on the enemy side i turn to a bot, just block + attack thats how i manage to get top scorer even if its totally an NA battle.

You guys can not block just face the fuckin fact.

Noone , Noone in Na can beat a normal player in EU , i m not speaking about bjord , tor or phrex ; its getting totally deeper like i can say "you can't even hit " if you gonna argue about those names.

Footwork  No
Double attack No
Trying to chamber No
Just Blindly Spam Yes

I almost added this to my other post. You have to have been in the position of a man like Cicero. He knows that NA can't block because he's played there and played against us on EU as well. Looking at a video just doesn't do it justice.

Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 19, 2012, 04:37:22 am
I think there is a difference between "can't block" and "won't block".
More spam on NA? Looking at Sosarian, who racks up a ton of kills by just spamming right swing without needing to block, because the other guys aren't either.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 19, 2012, 04:40:23 am
I'm just here to prove that I'm better at this video game mod than people on the other side of the planet, because that's important.

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Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Lichen on July 19, 2012, 04:44:37 am
When i play in a strategus battle against many NA player on the enemy side i turn to a bot, just block + attack thats how i manage to get top scorer even if its totally an NA battle.

You guys can not block just face the fuckin fact.

Noone , Noone in Na can beat a normal player in EU , i m not speaking about bjord , tor or phrex ; its getting totally deeper like i can say "you can't even hit " if you gonna argue about those names.

Footwork  No
Double attack No
Trying to chamber No
Just Blindly Spam Yes
I can't melee much at all on strategus battles due to the massive lag from all the players. I can think of many NA players who are very very good players. I could tell you their names but why don't you spectate for a while on a battle server sometime and you'll see for yourself.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: a_bear_irl on July 19, 2012, 04:47:02 am
re bjord video: i saw that teamwound on the hill coming from a mile away, also impressive pike+shielder block
re bjord comments: stop posting, shitposting is not trolling, why are you shitting all over some dude who did nothing but post a video of him playing a videogame, go outside, talk to your mother

re op video: good video of siege pubstomping, what the fuck is going on in kutt teamspeak @ :40
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: TurmoilTom on July 19, 2012, 04:48:50 am
what the fuck is going on in kutt teamspeak @ :40

KUTT Teamspeak, that's what's happening.

You should stop by sometime so we can all enjoy your company.

Our banner is a bear.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Casimir on July 19, 2012, 05:10:27 am
Prob the same amount of euro cunts tgat go agility so they can spam away and back up fast cause they suck dick at blocking. It goes both ways jerkoff

its funny cos that was my original point you dumb cunt
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Zisa on July 19, 2012, 05:52:59 am
meh.. I couldn't get past more then page 1.5 of this thread.. what a lot of shit over a fucking video. A tame video.. man...

Brings back the memories of the shitheads trying to dump on Reapy for the training videos.

On the video ..
Looks too compressed.
Can't read the chat well.
At least there was no fucking music.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 19, 2012, 07:21:54 am
When i play in a strategus battle against many NA player on the enemy side i turn to a bot, just block + attack thats how i manage to get top scorer even if its totally an NA battle.

You guys can not block just face the fuckin fact.

Noone , Noone in Na can beat a normal player in EU , i m not speaking about bjord , tor or phrex ; its getting totally deeper like i can say "you can't even hit " if you gonna argue about those names.

Footwork  No
Double attack No
Trying to chamber No
Just Blindly Spam Yes


I can only approve this from my own experience.
I had on duel a20 0 K/D was my best but most of the time when I join NA 3 I top the scoreboard
Same goes for NA_1
First off, indeed nice blocking Bjord.

Leshma - not that you're saying this, but keep in mind everyone that not all players on NA are heavy strength/IF/armor

For instance I am 21/21 with MW Longsword and 2 IF
I wear Lordly Transitional but that's mostly just cause I love how it looks :)  And I can still move pretty fast in it with my stats.

If I don't block, I'm...
1) not getting to anyone with my short reach
2) gonna get killed in 2-3 shots from strength players

Many others on NA build similar to this too....and block quite well (much better than me)
IE - Carebear & Miley

I dont know Carebear but from what I've seen on battle from Miley I gotta say I'm not impressed
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Lichen on July 19, 2012, 07:47:59 am
I can only approve this from my own experience.
I had on duel a20 0 K/D was my best but most of the time when I join NA 3 I top the scoreboard
Same goes for NA_1

What does that prove other than good players will still be good? Good NA players could do the same on EU.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on July 19, 2012, 07:52:15 am
What does that prove other than good players will still be good? Good NA players could do the same on EU.

This shows good NA players are good NA players nth more. But skilled EUs can be for EU and NA asia and australian is impossible with 500ping
And on NA I've a 160 Ping btw. Best guy ever comes from Asia I don't remember his name it was one of the YYY_ guys
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Leshma on July 19, 2012, 11:16:50 am
This shows good NA players are good NA players nth more. But skilled EUs can be for EU and NA asia and australian is impossible with 500ping
And on NA I've a 160 Ping btw. Best guy ever comes from Asia I don't remember his name it was one of the YYY_ guys

I've played with YYY_Agnes, player with ~600 ping who blocked couple of hits on EU5 server and had k/d of 2 or more...

Playing with 600 ping isn't possible, I've tried it on AUS server and you can't block because you're teleporting all over the place.

That Chinese player told me that it would be awesome if he had 150 ping, because that's playable (I agree, it is very playable). I bet Chinese players can kick our asses, actually I'm certain of that.

Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Leshma on July 19, 2012, 11:24:47 am
I dont know Carebear but from what I've seen on battle from Miley I gotta say I'm not impressed

Miley is one of the best players in this mod. Probably the best and also the most boring battle duel I've witnessed was between Miley and Saulcanner (some of his alts I think). It lasted for pretty long time and at the end it was a tie. And believe me, both of them tried every possible trick in the book.

Miley can play just fine on EU servers, he actually used to play with us in the past whenever he got banned on NA1.

Another NA player that I have very high opinion of, is San_of_Chaos. One of the better shielders in this mod, that's for sure.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Vibe on July 19, 2012, 11:39:22 am
Having a lot hit points is the most important thing in cRPG, makes more difference than having high armor rating. Those two combined make you almost invincible, able to tank anywhere between 5 and 20 hits. That's just absurd.

Sad but very very true. Someone who stacked a decent amount of STR (21+) and IF (5+) coupled with good armor is going to take a LOT more hits. I remember when I played 15/24 with medium armor, was often 2-3 shotted, now playing 21/18 with 7 IF and the difference is fucking ridiculous.

Then again, cRPG isn't really for competitive scene because of this.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: HardRice on July 19, 2012, 11:51:22 am
I dont know Carebear but from what I've seen on battle from Miley I gotta say I'm not impressed

To be completely honest with you, Leonidas, Miley IS one of the best players in NA.

Allers is probably better but sadly he's banned for a while so he's irrelevant. Funny thing is they're both related, and so fucking good.

Carebear is also a great player, impossible to get past in siege.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Miwiw on July 19, 2012, 01:20:41 pm
I think there's only 1 player on EU who doesn't block, and that on purpose. Ivani4. =)
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: sF_Guardian on July 19, 2012, 01:27:22 pm
I think there's only 1 player on EU who doesn't block, and that on purpose. Ivani4. =)

Ivani is a legend :D
He must get a special price for that.
Just spammed him to death with my 9 agi Hoplite 2 times yesterday :D
I can even spam him with my Dagger only main, even if it takes over 9000 strikes to kill him :D
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: LordBerenger on July 19, 2012, 01:49:29 pm
To be completely honest with you, Leonidas, Miley IS one of the best players in NA.

Allers is probably better but sadly he's banned for a while so he's irrelevant. Funny thing is they're both related, and so fucking good.

Carebear is also a great player, impossible to get past in siege.

Allers graytest. But injustice by the government killed him. RIP
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 19, 2012, 02:01:14 pm
Fighting with a glaive and being an effective killer doesn't mean you're skilled.

Dat.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: STOPHammerTime on July 19, 2012, 02:29:46 pm
I learnt alot from this thread.

Mainly that if - vote all potentially negative/true posts, I can win the Internets!
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 19, 2012, 02:30:55 pm
Oh... Mah gawd, DaveUKR is reading dis thread right nao (+3 hidden peeps but who cares).

/me waves hello.

HOLLY SHITSTICKS ON A FIRECRACKER!


Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: DaveUKR on July 19, 2012, 02:38:51 pm
Oh... Mah gawd, DaveUKR is reading dis thread right nao (+3 hidden peeps but who cares).

/me waves hello.

HOLLY SHITSTICKS ON A FIRECRACKER!

Sup :D I came here because of Cicero post about how good he is and how bad NA are :D I usually cba to reply in such threads but your post forced me to do that :D
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Gurnisson on July 19, 2012, 02:40:39 pm
Miley might be a good duelist or whatever, but getting couched three rounds in a row with my 0 ps, 6 ride horse archer is just laughable awareness. Map was completely open as well. :mrgreen:

Anyway, the video is just typical siege gameplay, I don't see why one has to mock the maker of the vid. Why would you block if you don't have to? If you're average at blocking then you can still be effective with weapons like the glaive, and to be honest, I don't have any problem with that. I don't see why people with great reactions should insta-win everything. Not a big fan of siege though, too many bad players and spamming and gives bad habits.

Also, regarding the NA/EU drama. EU has more players overall which means more decent/skilled players than NA which then again makes certain EU players believe that they're overall more skilled than NA even though EU probably has a higher amount of bad players too.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 19, 2012, 02:40:44 pm
Sup :D I came here because of Cicero post about how good he is and how bad NA are :D I usually cba to reply in such threads but your post forced me to do that :D
Good to see you around! Hope all is well.  :D
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: FrugFrug on July 19, 2012, 03:06:57 pm
I just thought I would let you all know that I've blocked 5 people at once for 10+ seconds.

Atleast 20 blocks.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 19, 2012, 03:22:54 pm
Blocking penis and dildos isn't counted :|
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Taser on July 19, 2012, 09:24:53 pm
I just thought I would let you all know that I've blocked 5 people at once for 10+ seconds.

Atleast 20 blocks.

I once blocked someone. It was terrible.. I could have been spamming instead.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Korgoth on July 20, 2012, 11:49:16 am
I think a fight between Dieler and Sosarian would be a good one to watch.

#TeamDieler!
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Bjord on July 20, 2012, 12:08:09 pm
Dieler is in a different league than Sosarian. As I said before, he's mediocre.
Title: Re: [VIDEO] Quick melee action
Post by: Korgoth on July 20, 2012, 12:12:41 pm
Dieler is in a different league than Sosarian. As I said before, he's mediocre.

Yeh but they wear similar armour and use similar weapons. I would just like to see Dieler beat him :)

PS: Was playing on NA today and watched Sosarian... Hmm not the best player around. He is better than me no doubt, esspecially as I'm a Hoplite at the moment but watching him... He rarely blocks anyone, just spam spam spam. Also just playing NA was weird, people don't like to block, they just keep swinging.