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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Inglorious on July 12, 2012, 03:18:40 pm

Title: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 12, 2012, 03:18:40 pm
I would like to suggest an idea for a Plumed Barbutte helmet. The main purpose is to signify an officer or leader if you will. Something recognizeable in a hectic crowd/melee.

The plume was historically black horse hairs. I got the opinions of a few people in the community, and they all agreed that having them a color like black would not only look the best, but keep people options for buying it open, due to black being a color that can fit with most anything.

I have a working render for the helm that I use as a custom skinned pack that replaces the barbutte for a plumed barbutte, but I would thuroughly enjoy seeing it implimented into the game as part of a armor and weaponry pack I am working on.



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Any thoughts?

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REVISED, AS TO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:25:00 pm
No model, no reply.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Zandieer on July 12, 2012, 03:28:42 pm
Quote from: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:25:00 pm
No model, no reply.

Why did you reply then, duh?

Oh, and "I have a working render for the helm that I use as a custom skinned pack that replaces the barbuta for a plumed barbutte, but I would thuroughly enjoy seeing it implimented into the game, as well as others I am sure."

IngloriouslyBad, wanna show us some pics?
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:32:26 pm
Yes, because writing you have something is the same as linking an image.  :rolleyes:

There are so many newmy old friends who want new items but never have the brains to post complete and high quality models with textures.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Zandieer on July 12, 2012, 03:34:18 pm
Quote from: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:32:26 pm
Yes, because writing you have something is the same as linking an image.  :rolleyes:

There are so many newmy old friends who want new items but never have the brains to post complete and high quality models with textures.

This is something I can bear if I get more helmets in the game. :lol:
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:38:35 pm
Bear it all you want but not gonna happen. Usually the only items that get added are bulk OSP-items.

Occasionally there are some sets that get added like the khazak stuff, which was only a helmet and a body piece. But again, this was added together with a lot of other themed items. I believe it got added around the same time as the ottoman stuff.

Naivete is a poor quality, which all newmy old friends seem to share.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Rebelyell on July 12, 2012, 03:44:48 pm
Quote from: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 03:25:00 pm
No model, no reply.


agree with bdziord
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Inglorious on July 12, 2012, 04:21:06 pm
Are your criticisms always consisting of newmy old friend? I'm at work and have no access to my model to post at this time.

Hype the hell down before you hurt yourself. You'll get your model soon enough to critique.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 08:10:49 pm
Well you are a newmy old friend, that part wasn't criticism but a fact.

And your suggestion is overly subjective and ridiculous.

Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 03:18:40 pm
I would like to suggest an idea for a Plumed Barbutte helmet. The helm we have now is very choice, so to say. But I would love to see it with a small plume to suggest an officer or leader if you will. Something recognizeable in a hectic crowd/melee. A vibrant Royal Blue , or vibrant Royal Red to be exact.

Bolded out for easy revision.

And to go even further, all the redundancy in your expressions:

Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 03:18:40 pm
The helm we have now is very choice, so to say. But I would love to see it with a small plume to suggest an officer or leader if you will. Something recognizeable in a hectic crowd/melee. A vibrant Royal Blue , or vibrant Royal Red to be exact.

1: So to speak of what? Don't get it.
2: Leader and Officer is basically the same thing, redundant expression.
3: To be exact of what? Royal Blue and Royal Red, only difference is colour. There's nothing that needs elaboration.

Don't write something for the sake of writing it or to seem more "intelligent". That's called being pretentious.

And...
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 03:18:40 pm
The helm we have now is very choice...

Do I even need to say it?

[/grammarchocolate chip cookie]
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte
Post by: Zerran on July 12, 2012, 08:15:57 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 04:21:06 pm
Are your criticisms always consisting of newmy old friend? I'm at work and have no access to my model to post at this time.

Hype the hell down before you hurt yourself. You'll get your model soon enough to critique.

TIP: Ignore Bjord.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Bjord on July 12, 2012, 08:18:06 pm
Yes, truth is uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: _Tak_ on July 12, 2012, 08:25:56 pm
You mean something like this?

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Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 12, 2012, 10:47:03 pm
Quote from: Zerran on July 12, 2012, 08:15:57 pm
TIP: Ignore Bjord.

Noted & Thanks

Quote from: AlexTheDragon on July 12, 2012, 08:25:56 pm
You mean something like this?

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Wow, did you just draw this up? Not bad. Could use some TLC, but I couldn't have done better myself! Well done.

I just pulled a texture from one of the modders (betaknight) and added it in place of the barbutte.

What program did you use?
Wings 3D?
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: _Tak_ on July 12, 2012, 10:49:10 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 10:47:03 pm
I just pulled a texture from one of the modders (betaknight) and added it in place of the barbutte.

The graphics looks really ugly i know but that is the max setting i can put on my pc:visitors can't see pics , please register or login


i put the plume from the chinese pack to the Barbutte to see what it looks like, and yes its very possible to add a plume above the helmet, show us the screen of your work on that barbutte plz ;d
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 12, 2012, 10:57:50 pm
No No, dont take that the wrong way. I love it. I'm at work, still, or I would attempt at 3D modeling a barbutte with plume as you have.

As per my model of the plumed barbutte I have now; it isn't a barbutte with plume. It's the roman legionaire corynthian with forwards plume.

I decided to try it out last night minutes before I went to sleep. Looked ok, but was out of place clearly. That is why I posted here to suggest someone adding a plumed barbutte. You sir proved it could be done!


Again might I ask... What program do you prefer to modify and texture models? The tutorials on the talewords thread all suggest the same program.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: _Tak_ on July 12, 2012, 11:02:01 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 12, 2012, 10:57:50 pm
Again might I ask... What program do you prefer to modify and texture models? The tutorials on the talewords thread all suggest the same program.

I don't make the models , i used the existing ones and match them with other stuff. For example in the Chinese armors pack i got some plumes, so i can use it for other european helmets as well.

see thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,35209.0.html

you can use 3dmax, some blender program, some kind of photoshop i dont know lol
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 13, 2012, 02:30:58 am
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here is what I just drew up

It's pretty sweet, but I need to be able to fit it!!! ( without destroying textures of other helms D: )
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model Up Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 13, 2012, 07:34:49 am
New Pictures for people to review. The plume was historically black horse hair. It actually would look VERY nice if it was black.

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Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Pictures to come later]*
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on July 13, 2012, 07:54:14 am
Quote from: AlexTheDragon on July 12, 2012, 10:49:10 pm
The graphics looks really ugly i know but that is the max setting i can put on my pc lawn mower:
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fixed
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on July 13, 2012, 08:08:50 am
Looks nice, obviously the plume needs to be fixed up.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 10:32:08 am
It looks a bit acient greek or is it just me?
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: _Tak_ on July 13, 2012, 10:37:06 am
Spartan style ;d
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 13, 2012, 11:36:52 am
Quote from: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 10:32:08 am
It looks a bit acient greek or is it just me?

It's not just you. The Barbutte Corynthian helm was designed in ancient Greece.

Quote from: AlexTheDragon on July 13, 2012, 10:37:06 am
Spartan style ;d

You know it. But we weren't primarily aiming for a Spartan look. Just a Greek Hoplite.

I plan to modify a few other textures to get a cuirass look out of the Druzhina Lamellar. At the moment, the closest we can get to an ingame look to a hoplite is the Trojan hoplites from the movie "Troy". But if I can submit the rest of my models I would love to have the cuirass, as well as a few other things.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 11:40:56 am
Hasnt it been said over and over again that roman and greek armor will never ever make it into crpg?
Or it it just me? :)
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on July 13, 2012, 11:44:22 am
Quote from: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 11:40:56 am
Hasnt it been said over and over again that roman and greek armor will never ever make it into crpg?
Or it it just me? :)

this
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 13, 2012, 03:58:59 pm
Quote from: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 11:40:56 am
Hasnt it been said over and over again that roman and greek armor will never ever make it into crpg?
Or it it just me? :)

Well, I didn't know that pre coming here. But I heard this was the suggestion corner, not the stomp on hopes corner.

Adding in the plume wouldn't break the game.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 05:02:03 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 13, 2012, 03:58:59 pm
Well, I didn't know that pre coming here. But I heard this was the suggestion corner, not the stomp on hopes corner.

Adding in the plume wouldn't break the game.

Also repeated a lot:
Before you post something, search the forum for suggestions similar to your idea. Loads of roman and greek shit has been posted already, and no it doesnt break the game, but this is a medieval rpg and they wanna keep it like that. Adding equipment that doesnt fit that wont be added.

Im not stomping on hopes, im just saying it before you put a lot of time in it, get your hopes up and then get to hear it wont be added.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Casimir on July 13, 2012, 05:06:20 pm
Got some potential there, if you can polish up the plume and get yourself some texture your on to a winner. :)
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on July 13, 2012, 07:23:57 pm
Maybe make it an optional download that replaces the barbute with the plumed one, that way people who like it can use it.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Jarlek on July 13, 2012, 09:24:41 pm
Even if it's not added, I would like to get it just for myself. It looks really nice.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 13, 2012, 10:03:15 pm
Quote from: Haboe on July 13, 2012, 05:02:03 pm
Also repeated a lot:
Before you post something, search the forum for suggestions similar to your idea. Loads of roman and greek shit has been posted already, and no it doesnt break the game, but this is a medieval rpg and they wanna keep it like that. Adding equipment that doesnt fit that wont be added.

Im not stomping on hopes, im just saying it before you put a lot of time in it, get your hopes up and then get to hear it wont be added.

Samurai gear was added -.-'

But thank you for the future tip. I'll make sure to keep that in mind! +1

Quote from: Casimir on July 13, 2012, 05:06:20 pm
Got some potential there, if you can polish up the plume and get yourself some texture your on to a winner. :)

Thank you =] Great to hear

Unfortunately, the helm shares a texture file with 3 others, and therefore is impossible to fit the desired color (resulting in the plume having a partially black, partially grey look)

Maybe I could put in a request for the helm to be placed on its own texture board so I can upload a custom file for people who would like to use it? More hopes & dreams though!

Quote from: Froto_the_Loc on July 13, 2012, 07:23:57 pm
Maybe make it an optional download that replaces the barbute with the plumed one, that way people who like it can use it.

I can't think of any file sharing websites still available nowadays or I would happily do so for everyone! If you know of any, you could help myself as well as others, greatly!

Quote from: Zapper on July 13, 2012, 09:24:41 pm
Even if it's not added, I would like to get it just for myself. It looks really nice.

Until I can find a file sharing site that isn't being torn down, I have to send it to each person who requests it individually via email attatchment, or messenger attatchment.

I have gotten quite a some hits for such requests already! It seems my suggestion carried a little weight with a few people out there.

If you would like to suggest a site, please feel free! Just as well, PM for me to send you the file personally.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Jarlek on July 13, 2012, 10:46:38 pm
Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on July 13, 2012, 10:03:15 pm
Until I can find a file sharing site that isn't being torn down, I have to send it to each person who requests it individually via email attatchment, or messenger attatchment.

I have gotten quite a some hits for such requests already! It seems my suggestion carried a little weight with a few people out there.

If you would like to suggest a site, please feel free! Just as well, PM for me to send you the file personally.
Don't know about many that holds them for long that you can use, but http://filesmelt.com/ (http://filesmelt.com/) is nice for short term file sharing. I actually don't know for how long they stay there :/

Post one here and we'll see! :D
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Miwiw on July 13, 2012, 11:01:51 pm
When I've read this topic, I rather thought about smth like this:
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or

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Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Jarlek on July 14, 2012, 12:59:20 am
Quote from: Miwiw99 on July 13, 2012, 11:01:51 pm
When I've read this topic, I rather thought about smth like this:
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or

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Those would be badass too. Anyone could make them?
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on July 14, 2012, 02:41:13 am
You could use mediafire, or even dropbox.
Title: Re: Plumed Barbutte *[Model & Pictures Now!]*
Post by: Inglorious on July 14, 2012, 10:57:00 am
Here is the link!
dejawolf.brf (http://filesmelt.com/dl/dejawolf.brf)

Just replace in your cRPG/Resource the dejawolf you already have. And as always, back up your files just incase!


Quote from: Zapper on July 14, 2012, 12:59:20 am
Those would be badass too. Anyone could make them?

I think I might be able to actually. Though, it will still have the same issue the plume the barbutte is having, due to there being no dedicated texture layer for it.


Quote from: Froto_the_Loc on July 14, 2012, 02:41:13 am
You could use mediafire, or even dropbox.

Both are like... dead