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Title: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 06, 2012, 12:18:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6r1IcY1pv0

Ending kinda scares the shit out of me. Supporting wars against nations that they havent even ever heard of is kinda scary and serius..........
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Vibe on July 06, 2012, 12:25:50 pm
Now? They've been waging wars against nations for "world peace" for decades. I wonder why they haven't went to Syria yet... probably not enough oil for "world peace" there
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Kafein on July 06, 2012, 12:57:27 pm
It's also kinda scary you can select all the dumbest people you find to do a biased video but when it's Americans it sounds legit
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Paul on July 06, 2012, 01:47:16 pm
You can do the same shit in every country of the world if you just leave the normal answers out and focus on the dumb fucks.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 06, 2012, 02:29:54 pm
Ye, im pretty sure its edited that only keep the dumb awnsers....but still.......
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Christo on July 06, 2012, 02:32:27 pm
You can do the same shit in every country of the world if you just leave the normal answers out and focus on the dumb fucks.

This.

The lack of geographical knowledge is shocking, though.

I'm not a walking GPS/World Map either, but damn.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 06, 2012, 02:44:03 pm
The lack of geographical knowlege wasnt suprising to me, this is the problem that occurs in all countries. What shocked me was the lack of knowledge of history. Fidel Castro was a singer...wtf?...............
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Smoothrich on July 06, 2012, 02:52:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6r1IcY1pv0

Ending kinda scares the shit out of me. Supporting wars against nations that they havent even ever heard of is kinda scary and serius..........

Yep, nothing more terrifying in this world than fat middle-aged Texicans in cowboy hats saying they would support George W Bush's (former governor of Texas) foreign policy, while the smug Australian comedian who is stealing a (particularly unfunny) Jay Leno bit frames the question with the context that "George W Bush said Kyrgyzstan was a threat to domestic security."  So they aren't supporting senseless war and genocide, they are (senselessly but earnestly) supporting their president.

Just like the comedian is appealing to the trust and patriotism some people have in America's leaders to make them look foolish, this entire bit only works based on you the viewer's prejudiced assumptions and bias of Americans as a whole, while using a targeted, selected-sample (with all divergences edited out) of southern/texas "folky" Americans. 

There is no difference to liking this clip and feeling like it reassures your beliefs and fears in Americans, then there is in hearing about Bernie Madoff's financial fraud and having that reaffirm your belief that einstein was correct in trying to exterminate the world of jews, or hearing about a gang-related act of violence in an American city and thinking "friends are all disgusting uneevolved rapist apes."

So congratulations.  You have outed yourself as an ignorant, hateful bigot, joining at least 1/3 of your fellow cRPG forum posters.  How does that make you feel?

Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: NuberT on July 06, 2012, 03:21:51 pm
I would say the education-level is going down in every western country for decades now and this probably on purpose..
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Miwiw on July 06, 2012, 03:34:23 pm
Oh, you can do this shit in kinda every country. Do that in Germany and asked if Germany won all wars, there will be people saying "We did!".
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: bilwit on July 06, 2012, 06:51:42 pm
You can do the same shit in every country of the world if you just leave the normal answers out and focus on the dumb fucks.

Oh, you can do this shit in kinda every country. Do that in Germany and asked if Germany won all wars, there will be people saying "We did!".

Of course, that's why it's a comedy skit and not an analytic documentary. It's supposed to be funny. The fake map test was unreal :lol:
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 06, 2012, 06:57:29 pm
Only dumb people in the video or everyone in America is dumb.
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Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 06, 2012, 07:58:17 pm
Yep, nothing more terrifying in this world than fat middle-aged Texicans in cowboy hats saying they would support George W Bush's (former governor of Texas) foreign policy, while the smug Australian comedian who is stealing a (particularly unfunny) Jay Leno bit frames the question with the context that "George W Bush said Kyrgyzstan was a threat to domestic security."  So they aren't supporting senseless war and genocide, they are (senselessly but earnestly) supporting their president.

Just like the comedian is appealing to the trust and patriotism some people have in America's leaders to make them look foolish, this entire bit only works based on you the viewer's prejudiced assumptions and bias of Americans as a whole, while using a targeted, selected-sample (with all divergences edited out) of southern/texas "folky" Americans. 

There is no difference to liking this clip and feeling like it reassures your beliefs and fears in Americans, then there is in hearing about Bernie Madoff's financial fraud and having that reaffirm your belief that einstein was correct in trying to exterminate the world of jews, or hearing about a gang-related act of violence in an American city and thinking "friends are all disgusting uneevolved rapist apes."

So congratulations.  You have outed yourself as an ignorant, hateful bigot, joining at least 1/3 of your fellow cRPG forum posters.  How does that make you feel?

Really, I dont feel so bad. The video was more for lolz anyway than an acctual fact. You dont have to get all flamy when someone slightly touches your precious USA. I just tought id show a vid since alot of America threads have been made recently.

And how am I a hateful bigot? I dont hate America, I just hate the fucking patriotism. Cant talk to a person without him waving his fcking flag every 2 minutes. Mybe im jelly cause I never felt patriotic about anything and I just dont know anything about it. And cause of you becoming all whiny and shit I think you should join the 1/3 aswell. :
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Havoco on July 07, 2012, 01:51:18 am
There's more bits than just this. There Was one about Californians identifying other states. It's quite funny, but I also recall ppl from high school that thought Europe was a country (of course those were also the ppl still taking basic math classes).

But I bet they had to do at least 500 surveys just to find the 20-25 dumbfucks in the video.

I also played diablo 2 with a German guy who thought Indiana was in India. :)
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Malaclypse on July 07, 2012, 05:57:40 am
Wait, what the fuck, jesus. I swear I read this thread weeks ago, but all the posts claim to be from today. Maybe I've seen the same dumb arguments unfold so many times that it's all blending together, or maybe I'm legitimately having prophetic dreams about stupid forum garbage.

Listen: you should be afraid of idiots. Especially when they get together and agree on stuff, because that's basically the beginning of the end for anyone who thinks. It doesn't matter if they're in Canada, or Brazil, China, Germany, or Botswana. Political borders have no effect on the spread of their kind, and they are prolific breeders.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Bobthehero on July 07, 2012, 06:16:03 am
Canada does not have idiot, only Quebecers.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: NuberT on July 07, 2012, 02:14:24 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ this movie predicts the exact future of western civilizations :P
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Miwiw on July 07, 2012, 02:26:23 pm
I also played diablo 2 with a German guy who thought Indiana was in India. :)

Haha, thats a clever move. To be fair though, we dont learn anything in school about the US (only the wars ua., how the US was founded and more), not the states. Sadly Geography is a class that really needs more time in schools. Same as politics.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Leshma on July 07, 2012, 04:08:51 pm
Same here. I know names of US states because of NBA League lol
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Bulzur on July 10, 2012, 12:46:01 pm
It's already plenty for us europeans to know where U.S.A. exactly is, whereas they have BIG trouble pointing out UK, France, Germany and Australia on a world map.

Thing is, geography classes in european countries is "country's name", "Europe" and the big powers "USA, China".
But when you learn history, you learn your countrie's wars, and the two WW.

I believe american's geography teaches about the US states. So many of them.
And history is about their independance and WW.



I'm quite impressed at how much i learned at school and still remember (like Florida used to be French, but they sold it because they needed gold for their wars, i wonder how many americans know about this.)
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Smoothrich on July 10, 2012, 10:36:47 pm
It's already plenty for us europeans to know where U.S.A. exactly is, whereas they have BIG trouble pointing out UK, France, Germany and Australia on a world map.


We do?  Cite your sources.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Overdriven on July 10, 2012, 11:02:54 pm
Yeah it's not much better tbh in the UK. USA is bigger so there are simply more idiots. But I bet if I went down to my nearest council estate and started asking questions about geography ect then they wouldn't be able to answer a damn thing.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 11, 2012, 05:50:44 am
Yep, bad geography skills can be forgiven. Its not like they need it + geography is quite hard once you get down to it. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Bulzur on July 11, 2012, 10:54:28 am
We do?  Cite your sources.

Of course :
http://ask.metafilter.com/54160/How-if-at-all-is-geography-taught-in-schools-in-the-USA
Look at this one in particular :
posted by jessamyn at 8:19 PM on January 1, 2007
U.S. Geographic Illiteracy Statistics


Anyway, i find it interesting, and i don't blame americans, but the education, since you're just not taught about geopolitical world in geography class, but learn it in your language class (german class teaches you where germany is, for example) and in the history class.

And as one american student said : "who cares about putting a name on a country on a map, it's not something that will affect my future work"

It's just a different geography lessons approach, varies for each country.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Lannistark on July 11, 2012, 12:51:57 pm
Aha I showed you this vid for the lolz man and now you totally freaked out  :mrgreen:

It's still funny that the American press itself made this video to show how retarded their citizens look like.

Note: The first time I read this I wondered if the author was just being an asshole. Then I realised it was totally true and tested. Related to american adults:

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* 30% could not locate the Pacific Ocean
* 56% could not locate India
* 63% of Americans could not find England on a map.
* 93% of Swedes could find the United States.
* Only 16% of Americans could find Sweden
* It's embarrassing to note that 85% of Americans, before the War with Iraq, could not locate Iraq on a map.
* Ironically, 34% of Americans knew the small island in the South Pacific where the one of the "Survivor" shows was filmed.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Beauchamp on July 11, 2012, 01:30:02 pm
i'd be more scared if there were no america
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: [ptx] on July 11, 2012, 01:40:54 pm
And as one said : "who cares about putting a name on a country on a map, it's not something that will affect my future work"
It will affect your ability to understand what is going on in the world outside of the borders of your own country and thus function as a voting citizen in a democracy. Also, not knowing the location of even the bigger countries/geographical objects pretty much makes you an ignorant, extremely limited and easily manipulated doofus.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Bulzur on July 11, 2012, 02:34:25 pm
It will affect your ability to understand what is going on in the world outside of the borders of your own country and thus function as a voting citizen in a democracy. Also, not knowing the location of even the bigger countries/geographical objects pretty much makes you an ignorant, extremely limited and easily manipulated doofus.

Can't agree more with this. Thus i slightly edited my post, since i, in no way, approves of this "who cares about geography". Hope my own opinion of all this is clearer now.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Lannistark on July 11, 2012, 02:39:49 pm
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Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: [ptx] on July 11, 2012, 02:43:16 pm
Can't agree more with this.
Then give me that damn renown! :mad:
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Protemus on July 11, 2012, 03:05:16 pm
I'm shocked...nuff said    :shock:
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: v/onMega on July 11, 2012, 05:24:50 pm
Allah jihad u ferking commis.

Leave Emericans alone.


Look its simple.
Americans spend too much time eating. Understandable.

Awesome BBQ, regional differences on how to get the softestest, biggest rips etc.

Obviously, no time for geografix.


Now, in poor countries, dem folks aint got stuff to eat. They spend a lot of time on survival and tv shows are bad.

Obviously they have no time for geografix.

In beautiful, strong, rich countries like germany, we simply are fed with everything, we dont care at all about anything. Too busy saving nature.

Obviously, no time ....oh wait, we learn good things in school.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 11, 2012, 06:55:10 pm
It will affect your ability to understand what is going on in the world outside of the borders of your own country and thus function as a voting citizen in a democracy. Also, not knowing the location of even the bigger countries/geographical objects pretty much makes you an ignorant, extremely limited and easily manipulated doofus.

.....Ummm, . Its actually a scientifically proven fact, that the democratic form of goverment runs pretty much on idiots. Its wierd......but it acctually makes sence if u think about it. Being extremely limited and easily manipulated doofuses is what keeps the countries in our world going at the current state.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 11, 2012, 07:14:19 pm
With a population of well over 300 million (near 400 million when counting territories and "unregistered"), it is ludicrously easy to find the people required to make such a video.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Angantyr on July 11, 2012, 08:56:05 pm
Of course idiocy is universal, but the education system isn't faultless. In general higher learning is of a quite high quality in the US while there's a marked discrepancy between schools of lower education where graduation results are shockingly bad in a large quantity of public schools.

On this topic I can warmly recommend the interesting documentary  'Waiting for Superman' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566648/), about US public education.


Some US history and geography classes also tend to be more etnocentric than what at least Northern Europeans are used to after European history books were rewritten post-WWII (to become less nationalistic). Here in Denmark we spend as good as no time on local geography and Danish history is almost completely neglected until college (where it's also given little room). Before WWII and the following fear of any hints of nationalism especially history was to a large degree confined to a perspective from within our national borders.




Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 11, 2012, 09:04:31 pm
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Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 11, 2012, 09:36:20 pm
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Holy crap that was cynical! Even more than it had to be imo.  :?
Thou I kinda agree. People in the Nordic are damn smart and their prisons damn tiny. Im really not sucking up here, they really seem wise as hell from how much ive been there and their economy seems  bulletproof at times.

 But you cant really compare the 2. USA has to spend shitloads on military cause its one of the most hated countries on the planet and every person who owns a bomb whould like to test it on North-America. If they loose their guard even the slightest, every dumbass warlord on the planet will be on them. And how the fck do you educate people who do not want to learn? :|
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Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 11, 2012, 09:38:09 pm
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Post by: Tibe on July 11, 2012, 09:47:50 pm
lol, you really loving this arent u.... :D
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Overdriven on July 11, 2012, 11:32:48 pm
But you cant really compare the 2. USA has to spend shitloads on military cause its one of the most hated countries on the planet and every person who owns a bomb whould like to test it on North-America. If they loose their guard even the slightest, every dumbass warlord on the planet will be on them. And how the fck do you educate people who do not want to learn? :|

They don't really have to spend that much on military. That's more due to a knack for getting into wars that they really shouldn't be, nothing to do with protecting America itself. As for educating people who don't want to be educated...well that's an age old question. But you should at least give them the opportunity to try. Certainly with higher education in the US there is very little ability for people to go. The University (college) fees are staggering compared to any other country I know of.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Lannistark on July 12, 2012, 09:25:50 am
lol @ the dog: Scottis terrorist. ahaha

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Primary source: Steven Emerson, American Jihad bottom right corner.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Kafein on July 12, 2012, 12:06:24 pm
So they aren't supporting senseless war and genocide, they are (senselessly but earnestly) supporting their president.

That's barely better.

I'd support a president only if the guy proves to be a good one.


Being ignorant has nothing to do with intelligence, but is all about education and eagerness to learn. Hence why the prejudice against americans usually is they are ignorant and that could be true, unlike them being dumb, which statistically can't be true.


The USA could use a slight budget reprioritisation. The military expenses are abysmal, but it's also a fact that a part of it goes to research, which is good. I doubt the use of a gigantic land army though. Boats and aircrafts are what matters in modern warfare anyway.


Also, I may be a geography nerd and played historical strategy games for hours (which will teach you hundreds of region names with no effort), but I think I could easily name and give the approximate location of 30 USA states.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 12, 2012, 08:38:48 pm
The first, and most likely only time I will + a smooth rich post on the first page.

Stereotyping is stereotyping. 

This graphic is very accurate though:

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Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Lannistark on July 13, 2012, 10:37:23 am
Also, I may be a geography nerd and played historical strategy games for hours (which will teach you hundreds of region names with no effort), but I think I could easily name and give the approximate location of 30 USA states.

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Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 13, 2012, 12:14:47 pm
GUNS OVER EDUCATION WOOOHAAA!!!!

Who the fuck needs education anyway, when you got a massive gun in your hands or just ride a massive monstertruck with a tankbarrel.

The movie "Idiocracy" seems really like a possibility at times u know..... Who knows what world we live behind, by sticking an Ipod, keys to a new mercedes and a bag of skittles at every kids hand whose by all means from a developed country, keeps whining for more stuff and demands less responsibilities.
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Post by: ThePoopy on July 13, 2012, 01:17:25 pm
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lol, stupid americans, everyone knows mermaids are real
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Vengt037 on July 13, 2012, 07:27:37 pm
GUNS OVER EDUCATION WOOOHAAA!!!!

Who the fuck needs education anyway, when you got a massive gun in your hands or just ride a massive monstertruck with a tankbarrel.

The movie "Idiocracy" seems really like a possibility at times u know..... Who knows what world we live behind, by sticking an Ipod, keys to a new mercedes and a bag of skittles at every kids hand whose by all means from a developed country, keeps whining for more stuff and demands less fewer responsibilities.

Ahhh, much better.
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Lannistark on July 13, 2012, 07:50:31 pm
Saying USA Is the free country is a mistake. For instance, the simplest of freedoms such as topless is illegal there  8-)
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 13, 2012, 08:05:29 pm
Saying USA Is the free country is a mistake. For instance, the simplest of freedoms such as topless is illegal there  8-)

Nope, New York or Texas for example.

There is no Federal Law against being topless, only individual states or cities (and not all of them).
Title: Re: Kinda scared of USA now........
Post by: Tibe on July 13, 2012, 09:24:10 pm
I will lock this thread soon, so say your last words.

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