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Title: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: v/onMega on July 06, 2012, 12:05:47 pm
High five ppl.,

Recent turnspeed buff is enducing reytsch.
1h, poles, 2h...all have to deal with a slow turning stab and overhead.
(I am fine with that).

Though, general skill has improved...what about a new challange...?

By...

implementing a temp buff for turningspeed after a chamber?

1. You EARN your turnspeed (risky)
2. You can switch targets when fighting +2 enemies
3. You can counter lance cav
4. Would encourage ppl. to chamber more
5. Would give this mechanic more sense
6. Ppl. get a reliable overhead and stab in case they got timing

Discuss.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: [ptx] on July 06, 2012, 12:09:08 pm
I generally have no problem landing my overhead chamberblocks, though i have missed once or twice due to slow turnspeed. Wouldn't hurt, tbh, +1.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 06, 2012, 12:19:50 pm
this could be a good option as a buff to chambering.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Tindel on July 06, 2012, 12:23:02 pm
sounds awesome +1
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Vibe on July 06, 2012, 12:23:50 pm
good idea
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: cmp on July 06, 2012, 01:16:46 pm
Good idea, but hard to implement. Turn speed needs to be synchronized between server and clients, and the latter don't really know when a block/chamber takes place. The server would have to notify them with a network event, but that can't be added without heavy changes to the client software.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: v/onMega on July 06, 2012, 01:29:05 pm
Good idea, but hard to implement. Turn speed needs to be synchronized between server and clients, and the latter don't really know when a block/chamber takes place. The server would have to notify them with a network event, but that can't be added without heavy changes to the client software.

Hard to do....
Or..
Impossible?

I mean....WSE/the coder is powerful :-)

These limitations are.....duh :-(, since ppl. scream for more melee combat depth.....these changes might be considerable for maintaining motivation for the future?
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Aderyn on July 06, 2012, 01:33:19 pm
Well if the codemagicians can fix it, it would be great. =) Lovin' this suggestion.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: cmp on July 06, 2012, 01:34:17 pm
Not impossible, no. It would be easy to add if we had a custom client, but we don't... for now.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: autobus on July 06, 2012, 01:57:57 pm
Not impossible, no. It would be easy to add if we had a custom client, but we don't... for now.
for now.
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Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Moncho on July 06, 2012, 02:07:05 pm
This would be a great way of encouraging chamber.
+1, hope it can be done, even if not immediately
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: pepejul on July 06, 2012, 02:22:23 pm
pple with big ping will be disadvantaged isn't it ?
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: v/onMega on July 06, 2012, 02:52:55 pm
pple with big ping will be disadvantaged isn't it ?

Its not like this feature is meant to replace the usual ways of dechuncking ppl.

High pingers usually dont chamber, most low pingers neither.

Why? Risk too high, benefits too small.

About the ping itself...:
The window for succesful chambering is so small, you d feel a small difference in timing, thats it.

General speed of crpg got lowered allrdy to equalize ping difference.


The aim of this idea is to develope a bigger use of this stylish, tricky yet totally underused mechanic.

And if your ping is 120+, go away....its not the fault of a community that deserves new challanges in their beloved mod.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: NuberT on July 06, 2012, 03:09:01 pm
You can do it cmp!

There should be more ways to improve chambering, because
-good players will block 80-90% sideswing chambers which makes it not really a viable option
-chambering 1h weapons is most of the times pure luck
-for hold attacks you can often only guess the time of release, trying to chamber when animation starts is usually too late - depends on weapon speed/enemy etc.
-stab and overhead chambers often miss because of the turn-limit especially with slow weapons or vs fast enemys or both ofc.
-chambering a stab became way harder, since speed has been increased? two months ago I could chamber 90% of non hold stab-attacks, now I hit perhaps 30% - but might be just me^^

right now its mostly high risk for little effort, but its still fun  :D - and yes I try to lobby here
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: _GTX_ on July 06, 2012, 03:12:40 pm
You can do it cmp!

There should be more ways to improve chambering, because
-good players will block 80-90% sideswing chambers which makes it not really a viable option
-chambering 1h weapons is most of the times pure luck
-for hold attacks you can often only guess the time of release, trying to chamber when animation starts is usually too late - depends on weapon speed/enemy etc.
-stab and overhead chambers often miss because of the turn-limit especially with slow weapons or vs fast enemys or both ofc.
-chambering a stab became way harder, since speed has been increased? two months ago I could chamber 90% of non hold stab-attacks, now I hit perhaps 30% - but might be just me^^

right now its mostly high risk for little effort, but its still fun  :D - and yes I try to lobby here

Haha this buff to chambering would idd help u alot ;). Prob Vmega aswell.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: NuberT on July 06, 2012, 03:23:17 pm
mega is a noob terms of chamber-blocking XD
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Son Of Odin on July 06, 2012, 04:44:40 pm
Great idea!

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Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Riddaren on July 06, 2012, 05:25:54 pm
Good idea but after reading what cmp said I don't think it's worth it to try to implement.

I think it would be best to just increase the game speed if we want the game to require more skill.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: _GTX_ on July 06, 2012, 05:34:06 pm
Good idea but after reading what cmp said I don't think it's worth it to try to implement.

I think it would be best to just increase the game speed if we want the game to require more skill.

Yeah idd, and they did say that, that was one of their goals. So i hope that we will begin to see that anytime soon. Since that will for sure make c-rpg look way more interesting for me personally.
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: Son Of Odin on July 06, 2012, 05:36:51 pm
Pumping gamespeed up doesn't necessarily mean that it requires more skill. If it's going too fast it's also going to be about who has the best ping and hardware. Just saying...
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: v/onMega on July 07, 2012, 08:15:36 pm
So, CMPX, any updates on this new client you promised to release this weekend *cough* :-)
Title: Re: Temporary turnspeedbuff by chamber
Post by: cmp on July 07, 2012, 09:33:03 pm
So, CMPX, any updates on this new client you promised to release this weekend *cough* :-)

What? :shock: