I know that 21/15 and 18/18 are the standard builds for players of the 1h/shield class but for me personally neither the 15 agi on the first nor the 18 str on the second one really suit me well as a 1h/shielder (shorter and less damaging than 2h/polearm). Thus i was wondering if this build is viable and if its not id like to know your opinion about how its not a good build..
21/18
4 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
0 Weapon Master
Discuss!
Level: 30
Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Attr to skill: 0
Skill to attr: 8
Ironflash: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 111
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)
prob dont need 6 shield if you have 6 ATHLETICS and/or a decent blocker. get some WPFWPF = useless, PS = useful
WPF = useless, PS = useful
10 WPF = 1% damageLies-.
I'm not so sure about no weapon master.how so? Lack of speed?
Maybe it's just me, but it just doesn't work out.
I know that 21/15 and 18/18 are the standard builds for players of the 1h/shield class but for me personally neither the 15 agi on the first nor the 18 str on the second one really suit me well as a 1h/shielder (shorter and less damaging than 2h/polearm). Thus i was wondering if this build is viable and if its not id like to know your opinion about how its not a good build..I really like the build. It is the same build I use as shielder except I get 5 IF and 5 shield instead of 4 IF and 6 shield. I'm not a big fan of WM. The difference is hardly noticeable when compared to having more health/shield skill.
21/18
4 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
0 Weapon Master
Discuss!
how so? Lack of speed?Maybe it's just I've always used WM builds.
Why 0 wm?
Im going 21/15
21/18 or 18/21 for dedicated shielderGurni fuck your sig man im always watching it for hours !!!
Compare say 21/15 to 24/15. The extra ~40 WPF of 5 WM is equal to about 0.5 Power Strike and 2 weapon speed, not to mention fewer weapon repairs. Compare that to 3 HP and 1 Power Strike. People pick 2 weapon speed over ~1 dmg all the time (Italian vs. KAS, for instance), and both swords are good.
The difference isn't that significant, and it's pretty balanced between damage and speed. Just pick your style.
That's how I feel as well - generally it's a toss up IMO if you are deciding between 5 WM & 1 more PS since they are very similar in terms of actual damage output. For example, I'm planning on a level 35 build. At first I thought going 0 WM 24/21 build would be my choice, but then I realized that if I stuck with 21/21 7 WM I would actually be doing MORE damage per swing than the extra PS would give me.
I wouldn't want to play with less then 6 ath, otherwise you can get S key spammed or circle spammed. This is even more important if you want to use a heavy shield or a short weapon (axe, warhammer, steel pick, etc). I also don't like having under 6 ps, although I guess if you use a pierce or blunt weapon you could manage.
If I owned a mw brown lion shield or round shield I would consider doing:
str:24
agi:18
ps:8
shield:3
ath:6
or
str:21
agi:21
ps:7
shield:3
ath:7
But with a regular shield I think it is going to break too often (unless you want to be primarily a swashbuckler with a shield for range)
So gur, after my post above yours, I should just go 21/15 and not risk 0 wm?Either build is good but don't think of 0 WM as a risk. The difference is not going to be very big in swing speed. Having 0 WM doesn't make your swing speed dramatically slower. It is like changing to a weapon that has 1 or 2 less speed.