There was no good looking asian gear until I saw the link to the chinese forums with that sub mod for the 1257AD mod. But well, cant imagine to visit chinese forums myself tho. Quite impossible. Wouldnt want Japanese stuff tho.
You wear a nice dress on that picture.
Only hollywood ninja item I can think of are the snowflakes, which I'm fairly certain is not 100% accurate(Don't think they came in that shape).
Katana is accurate. Lamellar vests are accurate, though not japanese. Hooded masks have existed since people started making hoods. As is black boots and steppe armour, light leather, etc.
Ninjas just combine them to create a look, much like the people who play highlanders or romans.
I use white lamellar in snow maps very often. I sometimes use purple when I want to look like a purple ninja and I combine it with padded coif. The black lamellar is what we usually use because we do take a lot of inspiration from Hollywood ninjas. But if you remove it, I can think of quite a few Grey's and many other people who would be bummed. It's quite a popular armour. Only truly japanese armour in the game is the samurai stuff. The "ninja" stuff is mainly European
Thanks, I'm surprised you can see it, with me holding the camera and all. By the way, nice hood. It's almost like the Ninja one we have ingame just now, but a bit more white
Katana is historically accurate, lamellar vest is historically accurate, hooded masks are too, as well as boots.
But the concept of a Ninja wearing black attire and mask isn't historically accurate, and the concept of a Ninja running around on the battlefield certainly isn't Historically accurate.
Ninja would've most likely disguised themselves as either Farmers, Bushi, or Buddhist monks, so that they could blend in with their environment
Ninja would've most likely disguised themselves ... so that they could blend in with their environment
Well. As a ninja, I prefer to use my katana, but otherwise I'm dressed like your standard eastern footsoldier in Europe. The environment is a battlefield and I'm a lot more blended in than a farmer. I rarely wear the hood, and when I do it's to hide my face and stop people from recognizing me on the battlefield.
More blended in than a farmer, but not more blended in than a warrior class
@I suppose what bothers me about having unrealistic Japanese gear, is that, people who want to play as realistic Japanese warriors get painted with the same brush as the anime type warriors.I know what you mean. The random weaboo insults are stupid, however I disagree that ninjas are in anyway "anime". I think ninjas are a lot less "weaboo" than the samurai. Ninjas are a clan roleplaying a 70s-ish idea of a ninja. We have practically little to no interest in japan apart from that a lot of 70s ninja movies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5RgwbFsMs) came from there, but they were mainly from Hollywood. I'm a history geek, somewhat, so I'm interested in Japan for the same reason I'm interested in Persia and India. I'm the only ninja that I know for sure that has watched an anime series. I watched Cowboy Bebop because if you're a sci-fi geek like me you'd notice that there are literally no decent sci-fi shows on atm, so I resorted to the only sci-fi genre I had left. It was alright, although a little, how should I put it... "japanese".
Everytime someone mentions adding new Japanese gear or talks about anything other than European gear, they will get the usual insults, trolling, "weeabo!" and "There are NO good asian armor. Remove all things that aren't European!"
Plus I think it's stupid to have Ninja running around on the battlefield, but then I also think those other unrealistic Warrior types you mentioned running around on the battlefield are ridiculous as well, but they don't bother me quite as much, for the reason stated above.
I agree, full plate and flamberge is the ultimate ninja wear.
That's the problem.
You equate black clad ninjas with anime, when that cultural phenomenon was first popularized by western movie industry. You seem more interested in japanese historical accuracy and by extension more interested in Japan in general and therefore, from my point of view, you seem a lot more "weaboo" than any ninja I know.
in a fairly realistic game/mod centered around medieval battles
http://www.kobudoverband-nrw.de/masters/nobuyuki.htm
sry for german D:
Ninjas were real!!!! First point
2. Why the fuck can't you leave the Ninjas Ninjas, they also let you Kuyak+Vaegir War Mask+ Greatsword spammers alone and this goes to all those other haters 2
3. We could add new accurate armors from Japan but not remove the current once
Spoiler for haters(click to show/hide)
Yes, it's unrealistic, but this mod has never been particurarly interested in extreme historical accuracy which is why there are so many styles available, and it's also a reason why this mod has become so popular. Atleast this is my opinion.
If roleplaying American Ninja(which was one of my fav movies as a kid) is weaboo, then so be it :)
Get rid of the mask, leave the Katana it's a perfectly real medieval weapon
By the way, QQ?
I know Ninja were real, I don't have a problem with them being in C-rpg, I just would prefer some more realistic Ninja, than the Hollywood style.
But I'm afraid you're missing the point of my thread. It isn't to get rid of Ninja, it's to replace Hollywood Japanese gear with realistic Japanese gear.
Armor requests without models = no add
My reading comprehension must be failing me but it seems someone is arguing over the theme of a clan.
I completely agree that the random hate for Japan(especially Japan) is ridiculous. But that's just a current cultural phenomenon just as much as weaboo-ism.
On the other hand though, I think there are more pressing areas other than Japan that should be addressed aswell. Areas like India, for example, of which we have no gear from and China, which seems to be getting some attention right now. People in general seem to be more positive toward those areas aswell. Lot of Japanophobes are actually wanting the chinese stuff added, which is great! Now some Indian stuff and some more saracen stuff(from beer thread) and maybe some even more exotic stuff and this mod will be truly interesting.
But, my point still stands. Ninjas, even though we're not historically accurate, we're actually dressed like what a 70s ninja would look like if he ever had to fight on a battlefield during the medieval era and have a uniform.
That's a pretty big "if"