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Title: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 11:34:14 am
Hi!
So i created an archer build couple month ago and i think its most imba and worthless  class i ever made in comparsion to other 2 builds i own(CAV and 2H). Almost all games i end up like 0-10. My K/D is 1-5 and lowering while at cav or 2h are 1-1. I think its because i gave 3 ironflesh and 3 power strike to this class. Only "surviving" build for archer is max ag/athl and powerdraw, anything more or less and you are worthless piece of meat. No matter what, everything takes you by 1 hit(with IF 3), no matter what light armor i wear,  heavy armored 1h with iron shields manage to chase you down, even if your ath is 7 and you wear almost no armor, your swing at melee do no dmg, you die by 1 hit of crossbow belt, but you have to hit with you own arrows like 3-7 times to kill with PD 6. I mean if you dont go  at 1 direction of creating archer you are done and thats sad, you should be more flexible like other imba classes(Cav for example- no matter how you screw this class you always will be  able to kill or atleast take to the ground someone).
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Miwiw on June 25, 2012, 11:50:05 am
See and people say Archers were op.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Adamar on June 25, 2012, 11:51:53 am
You need practice and the right build. It's no wonder an average cav or melee player is going to suck at archery at the start. And if the class is too annoying you shouldn't play it.

I have no athlectics at all and I can still play.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 12:08:09 pm
Quote from: Adamar on June 25, 2012, 11:51:53 am
You need practice and the right build. It's no wonder an average cav or melee player is going to suck at archery at the start. And if the class is too annoying you shouldn't play it.

I have no athlectics at all and I can still play.

Well, i think horse archers are very imba, but ground archers suck untill you wont lvl up thep in 1 way. Every class is better than them, crossbow just eat every archer taking him down by 1 hit, having advantage at melee, accuary, dmg, armor, and even sometimes at run speed.
Well, even more. At CRPG even most noobiest cav can take you down, by just hitting you to the ground, without any weapon. Its just silly.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Juhanius on June 25, 2012, 12:15:23 pm
Sir you are right. Archer is worst class you can make. I find it really annoying that even level 31 my actual wpf is only 80 because of 6 points in PD.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Juhanius on June 25, 2012, 12:20:21 pm
Only viable build is dedicated archer build...meaning all points to archery, athletics, and weaponmaster.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: polkafranzi on June 25, 2012, 12:21:30 pm
Quote from: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 11:34:14 am
Hi!
So i created an archer build couple month ago and i think its most imba and worthless  class i ever made in comparsion to other 2 builds i own(CAV and 2H). Almost all games i end up like 0-10. My K/D is 1-5 and lowering while at cav or 2h are 1-1. I think its because i gave 3 ironflesh and 3 power strike to this class. Only "surviving" build for archer is max ag/athl and powerdraw, anything more or less and you are worthless piece of meat. No matter what, everything takes you by 1 hit(with IF 3), no matter what light armor i wear,  heavy armored 1h with iron shields manage to chase you down, even if your ath is 7 and you wear almost no armor, your swing at melee do no dmg, you die by 1 hit of crossbow belt, but you have to hit with you own arrows like 3-7 times to kill with PD 6. I mean if you dont go  at 1 direction of creating archer you are done and thats sad, you should be more flexible like other imba classes(Cav for example- no matter how you screw this class you always will be  able to kill or atleast take to the ground someone).

You've obviously not seen Radh_the_Grey when he plays, gets as many kills with his mace as with the bow, and rarely needs to kite.  Seems pretty balanced to me.  Also, why not just go full blown archer, pretty effective too:
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p.s. nerf ranged.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Magikarp on June 25, 2012, 12:29:11 pm
Quote from: Juhanius on June 25, 2012, 12:20:21 pm
Only viable build is dedicated archer build...meaning all points to archerypowerdraw, athletics, and weaponmaster.
As it should be.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Adamar on June 25, 2012, 12:32:20 pm
LoL, yeah, go full blow archer and you'll get as many kills as bagge.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Miwiw on June 25, 2012, 12:42:06 pm
Just be sure you can manual block. ;)
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
This is just retarded like fully armored guy with huge 2h chase me down while i wear almost no cloth and weapons:)
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Mlekce on June 25, 2012, 02:38:40 pm
Nord bagge is having top sore in that screenshot and he is archer. So you completly suck at archery.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 02:40:10 pm
Quote from: Mlekce on June 25, 2012, 02:38:40 pm
Nord bagge is having top sore in that screenshot and he is archer. So you completly suck at archery.
I dont say archery sux at all. Its good while you go by 1 or 2 ways in creating character. Otherways is useless trash at crpg mod.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: polkafranzi on June 25, 2012, 02:44:39 pm
Quote from: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
This is just retarded like fully armored guy with huge 2h chase me down while i wear almost no cloth and weapons:)

Get more ath.

Quote from: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 02:40:10 pm
I dont say archery sux at all. Its good while you go by 1 or 2 ways in creating character. Otherways is useless trash at crpg mod.

It's like creating a 2 riding sumpter horse lancer build.

You just wouldn't even go there, same applies for other builds across the mod.

Every class, when the perfect build and skill behind the keyboard/mouse allows, can be OP.

So in conclusion:

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Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Tomeusz on June 25, 2012, 02:47:57 pm
I had my main screwd build, totaly worthless power throw with no enough wpf + 2h. I reseted that build(had 31 lvl already on that char)but untill reseted managed to do 1-1. Same with my first screwd cav build. Archer? Archer when you screw build u wont kill anyone, die by 1 shot ofcrossbow belt, dont manage to run away.
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: Miwiw on June 25, 2012, 03:09:46 pm
Quote from: Mlekce on June 25, 2012, 02:38:40 pm
Nord bagge is having top sore in that screenshot and he is archer. So you completly suck at archery.

It's more the other way round. The archers having top scores are too skilled and far better than the rest.  :P
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: polkafranzi on June 25, 2012, 03:46:11 pm
Quote from: Miwiw99 on June 25, 2012, 03:09:46 pm
It's more the other way round. The archers having top scores are too skilled and far better than the rest.  :P

Or aimbot.

 :wink:
Title: Re: Archer- only one build shall be
Post by: OpenPalm on June 25, 2012, 05:54:09 pm
Should have foregone the 3 IF and gotten 6 PS instead.