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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 08:04:56 pm

Title: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 08:04:56 pm
Well I used the launcher, then the heirloom pack if that matters...

The long maul is now 125 length, it seems a lot shorter then yesterday.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Joker86 on June 21, 2012, 08:05:31 pm
I had a similar observation in the shower this morning.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 08:06:02 pm
Haha, well your problem can be fixed with some manual manipulation.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Joker86 on June 21, 2012, 08:10:09 pm
Haha, well your problem can be fixed with some manual manipulation.

And it was. My girlfriend who walked in looked kind of disgusted, but I told her I am allowed to wash myself as fast as I want.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: SixThumbs on June 21, 2012, 08:21:02 pm
The devs are hard at work on the next problem, the fact that these crushthrough weapons have gravitational fields that pull you into the overhead.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 08:35:09 pm
And it was. My girlfriend who walked in looked kind of disgusted, but I told her I am allowed to wash myself as fast as I want.
You should have asked her for help, perhaps you need to drink coffee in the morning?
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 21, 2012, 08:36:34 pm
Should always use a spotter or you could get injured, next time ask to be spotted.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Miley on June 21, 2012, 09:01:49 pm
than*

Hmm, I'll probably log on some time today and see what this fuss is about. I haven't been on in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 09:09:14 pm
than*

Hmm, I'll probably log on some time today and see what this fuss is about. I haven't been on in a couple of days.
then* as in, a happened THEN I did B.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 21, 2012, 09:15:14 pm
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/thanthen.html

Than

Than is a conjunction used in comparisons:

    Tom is smarter than Bill.

    This is more important than you might think.

    Is she taller than you?

    Yes, she is taller than I.

Technically, you should use the subject pronoun after than (e.g., I), as opposed to the object pronoun (me). However, English speakers commonly use the object pronoun.

 
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Miley on June 21, 2012, 09:15:44 pm
The long maul is now 125 length, it seems a lot shorter then yesterday.

Nope, the second then.

Zisa was talking about the first then.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: MrShine on June 21, 2012, 09:24:04 pm
I had a similar observation in the shower this morning.

This is simultaneously the shortest and the best Joker86 post I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: mcdeath on June 21, 2012, 09:26:11 pm
Well I used the launcher, then the heirloom pack if that matters...

The long maul is now 125 length, it seems a lot shorter then yesterday.
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The funniest part...
Is where you went 32-2 or so with a great maul.
Zisa you troll Miley for using a great maul (which is harder than a long maul) and you then complain about the long maul. You are dumb as rocks.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 21, 2012, 09:34:37 pm
Zisa you troll Miley for using a great maul (which is harder than a long maul) and you then complain about the long maul. You are dumb as rocks.

I would say the great maul is a lot easier to use then the long maul

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Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 21, 2012, 09:40:07 pm
Nope, the second then.

Zisa was talking about the first then.

I knew what you were talking about, what I quoted was for Zisa :P
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: mcdeath on June 21, 2012, 09:40:44 pm
Yes well we all have our opinions. I am just pointing out that critizing someone for using a maul and then complaining about a maul is just out right stupid.
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Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Rhaelys on June 21, 2012, 09:50:57 pm
Zisa you troll Miley for using a great maul (which is harder than a long maul) and you then complain about the long maul. You are dumb as rocks.

This is incorrect, unless you mean to say that the Great Maul hits harder than a Long Maul.

Ever see a full plate monster using a Long Maul?

Or even anyone using a Long Maul?

If anyone actually allows you to overhead them with a 70 speed weapon, there is still a good chance that no crushthrough will occur because of the low damage and lower weight compared to the Great Maul, which also happens to be 10 speed faster.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 21, 2012, 09:54:52 pm
This is incorrect, unless you mean to say that the Great Maul hits harder than a Long Maul.

Ever see a full plate monster using a Long Maul?

Or even anyone using a Long Maul?


I see a few do ok with it, the only ones whose names I remember are rustyspoons, miley, and beeper. And beeper using any polearm doesnt count as something being good.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Rhaelys on June 21, 2012, 11:04:23 pm
I see a few do ok with it, the only ones whose names I remember are rustyspoons, miley, and beeper. And beeper using any polearm doesnt count as something being good.

That's my point. No one actually uses the Long Maul with any semblance of seriousness. You use it for the lulz.

People actually use the Great Maul because it's a good weapon in the right hands and with the right build and equipment.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 21, 2012, 11:06:39 pm
That's my point. No one actually uses the Long Maul with any semblance of seriousness. You use it for the lulz.

People actually use the Great Maul because it's a good weapon in the right hands and with the right build and equipment.

I would say the great maul is a lot easier to use then the long maul
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: mcdeath on June 21, 2012, 11:16:09 pm
Ok I understand what the point you are making and the only reason I think the long maul is easier is because well it's longer. The person can just s key and overhead if they have to. You are right though the great maul is more popular and is better.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 11:18:59 pm
Nope, the second then.

Zisa was talking about the first then.
Ah, I stand corrected. I shall flog my editor. I was more correct with my first then than the second.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Zisa on June 21, 2012, 11:21:26 pm
Yes well we all have our opinions. I am just pointing out that critizing someone for using a maul and then complaining about a maul is just out right stupid.
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Actually my point was the LONG MAUL seems to have shrunk. It really was longer yesterday, it is now 125 length. Perhaps it was always 125 length, and the heirloom pack I reinstalled shrank the appearance of it. It is perhaps tied for shittiest (thus best for the lulz) choice of polearm.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Rhaelys on June 21, 2012, 11:49:34 pm
Actually my point was the LONG MAUL seems to have shrunk. It really was longer yesterday, it is now 125 length. Perhaps it was always 125 length, and the heirloom pack I reinstalled shrank the appearance of it. It is perhaps tied for shittiest (thus best for the lulz) choice of polearm.

On this I think everyone agrees.

And to Egan: was just blindly responding to whoever responded to me; didn't actually see what you said earlier.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: rustyspoon on June 22, 2012, 01:40:23 am
I use the long maul literally every day. Length seems the same to me. The nerf to turning was a HUGE nerf to the long maul though. One of my favorite tricks was to pretend to miss with the side swing, pass them on the side and immediately turn around and overhead. Ah, good times.

The great maul is WAY better than the long maul also. Not only is it way the fuck faster, heavier AND does more damage, it's shorter length makes it a better weapon.

If you have a long maul and someone facehugs you, you literally can't hit them. Your weapon is too slow. You need to keep them at length to have a chance at hitting them. The great maul doesn't have that problem as you WANT people to be close to you.

So to use the long maul effectively you need at least 6 athletics on NA, which cuts down on your powerstrike. With a lower powerstrike, the only way you reliably crushthrough is by speed bonus and held attacks.

It's a truly TERRIBLE weapon, but I love it so.

Still for fun, look how it compares to the Long Hafted Spiked Mace and the Great Maul. Good times.

Long Maul
weapon length: 125
weight: 7
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 70
weapon length: 125
thrust damage: 10 blunt
swing damage: 37 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
7592

Long Hafted Spiked Mace
weapon length: 138
weight: 3
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 138
thrust damage: 20 blunt
swing damage: 32 blunt
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Knockdown
6,819

Great Maul
weapon length: 68
weight: 8
difficulty: 20
speed rating: 80
weapon length: 68
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 43 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
9,766
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Rhaelys on June 22, 2012, 04:00:36 am
I use the long maul literally every day. Length seems the same to me. The nerf to turning was a HUGE nerf to the long maul though. One of my favorite tricks was to pretend to miss with the side swing, pass them on the side and immediately turn around and overhead. Ah, good times.

The great maul is WAY better than the long maul also. Not only is it way the fuck faster, heavier AND does more damage, it's shorter length makes it a better weapon.

If you have a long maul and someone facehugs you, you literally can't hit them. Your weapon is too slow. You need to keep them at length to have a chance at hitting them. The great maul doesn't have that problem as you WANT people to be close to you.

So to use the long maul effectively you need at least 6 athletics on NA, which cuts down on your powerstrike. With a lower powerstrike, the only way you reliably crushthrough is by speed bonus and held attacks.

It's a truly TERRIBLE weapon, but I love it so.

Still for fun, look how it compares to the Long Hafted Spiked Mace and the Great Maul. Good times.

Long Maul
weapon length: 125
weight: 7
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 70
weapon length: 125
thrust damage: 10 blunt
swing damage: 37 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
7592

Long Hafted Spiked Mace
weapon length: 138
weight: 3
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 138
thrust damage: 20 blunt
swing damage: 32 blunt
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Knockdown
6,819

Great Maul
weapon length: 68
weight: 8
difficulty: 20
speed rating: 80
weapon length: 68
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 43 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
9,766

I would honestly support a buff of 6-7 speed and perhaps 2 damage for the Long Maul. Its current state maximizes the lulziness but makes for a really sub-par weapon.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Auphilia on June 22, 2012, 04:17:50 am
I've seen Hospitaller_Porksword go to work with a long maul. I'm pretty sure that is the only weapon he really uses lol.
People can't evade it and he makes sure to get the first hit so you are forced to block and get crushed.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Miley on June 22, 2012, 05:37:05 am
What is Zisa's title?
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: Kuyamzoleta on June 22, 2012, 10:29:24 am
What is Zisa's title?

dreamy
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: [ptx] on June 22, 2012, 10:33:13 am
It has always been 125 length, iirc.
Title: Re: Long Maul shrunk?
Post by: owens on June 22, 2012, 12:37:34 pm
boulder on a stick used to be more.

The very first Long Mauls had higher weight and damage.