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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Mlekce on June 15, 2012, 08:54:48 pm

Title: Make couching harder.
Post by: Mlekce on June 15, 2012, 08:54:48 pm
Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted.  :rolleyes:
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,
 
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 15, 2012, 09:09:56 pm
pushing X is hard.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: bruce on June 15, 2012, 09:14:14 pm
WWWWWX gaming is great. Especially when you pick up someone right on spawn and then he can twiddle his thumbs for the next 5 minutes. Funniest when it's some idiotic small map and you can ride to other spawn in 10 seconds max, couch someone and then run away/die.  :lol:

Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Penitent on June 15, 2012, 09:15:18 pm
Couch is really easy to dodge, even on accident.
If you couch someone, it's easy to kill them.  But it's not THAT easy to couch someone.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Mlekce on June 15, 2012, 09:17:22 pm
Bich please. They only couch when you fight other infrantery and you are distracted,or they couch you in some flat map with that champ courser when you are not aware enough. I looked behind me,then i moved mouse to look on my left side and then i got lance in back. He came from nowhere.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: BlueKnight on June 15, 2012, 09:27:25 pm
Bich please. They only couch when you fight other infrantery and you are distracted,or they couch you in some flat map with that champ courser when you are not aware enough. I looked behind me,then i moved mouse to look on my left side and then i got lance in back. He came from nowhere.
I see you're not an attention whore. Poor you :D
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 15, 2012, 10:05:12 pm
Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted.  :rolleyes:
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,

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Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: PhantomZero on June 15, 2012, 11:34:13 pm
Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted.  :rolleyes:
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,

The joke is on you because the lance does move when in couch mode.  A couched lance doesn't even hurt that much anymore, can take like 2-3 to kill a tincan.

Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Zisa on June 16, 2012, 02:18:05 am
Just remove couch from all except couch only lances.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Kafein on June 16, 2012, 03:09:20 am
Just remove couch from all except couch only lances.

I'm not sure you really understand the probable consequences of this.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2012, 03:17:29 am
Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Zisa on June 16, 2012, 04:28:58 am
I'm not sure you really understand the probable consequences of this.
Oh but I do.

Also:
- denerf lance attack radius.
- half horse bump damage.
- make horseman stagger when horse gets hit.

Trust me I do.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Vkvkvk on June 16, 2012, 05:44:35 am
Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.

I'm pretty sure their K/D also comes majorly from stabbing and not only couching.

I find that stabbing is worse than couch when I play against Cavalry, atleast when they couch, it requires the Cavalry to stay at a high speed, meanwhile with a stab, they can just turn on a dime every .1 seconds and stab you from a stationary position and still do shitload of damage.

But I agree, one way you have a stab that does a shitload of damage with turn on a dime mountain goats and on the other you have a backstab attack that one hit kill you.

Cavalry to me feels a bit like archery, the reward vs risk is high:slim, you can easily get kills without much effort and it's even worse that you can get one hit kill on Backstabs when even Meleeist can't do that and it requires you to get real close and personal.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Baggy on June 16, 2012, 06:39:13 am
Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.
You've never played Cav have you...
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: bruce on June 16, 2012, 11:11:44 am
Thinking about it, the best change would be slashing horse HP by a third and set armour of all unarmoured horses to something minimal... say, 5. Then make more open maps, random plains and such, less town circle running nonsense and less maps where you can ride to their spawn in 10s and couch someone for lols.  :lol:

The benefit is twofold, battles looking like actual battles, and ranged countering cavalry reasonably effectively while having their effectiveness vs infantry unchanged.

If anyone is worried about ranged cavalry countering normal cavalry too well with it, you could make HA skill be every 9 agi. Debatable if it would be needed. And give old lance radius on spears, please :)

Bump damage is fine, people jumping into horse's face before bump damage nerfs to avoid being hit was retarded.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: BlackMilk on June 16, 2012, 11:13:57 am
Oh but I do.

Also:
- denerf lance attack radius.
- half horse bump damage.
- make horseman stagger when horse gets hit.

Trust me I do.
+1
it all makes sense
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Vexus on June 16, 2012, 11:19:51 am
Just remove couch from all except couch only lances.

You have no idea how many times I suggested this but to no avail :/
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2012, 01:01:25 pm
You've never played Cav have you...

Not recently. And I'm pretty bad cav. But that's because I was actually charging aware opponents like a fool. Smart and good cav almost never charges alone and aware opponent, even if it is a peasant. Great Khans do but only when there is more than one.

However I've seen you playing yesterday with great lance. You've killed me twice from behind, while I was busy fighting someone. That's how cav kill and couch is much better for that because it delivers more damage than thrust attack and it's harder to miss.

I had pretty low opinion of cavalry then I've decided to try it out and my opinion went up because I wasn't good cav. But after I've played as a peasant with quarter staff, seeing mighty lancers who avoid me even though they can outreach me easily, I must say that my opinion of cavalry now is one big fat zero.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Oberyn on June 16, 2012, 02:00:09 pm
I'm pretty bad cav. I [am] a fool. I wasn't good cav. my opinion [...] is one big fat zero.
Title: Re: Make couching harder.
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2012, 02:01:37 pm
You and your clan can blow me, Blowberyn :D