I'd love this. Just take them out and leave players with some gold and tokens for lost heirlooms. My preference is that the replacement shields be slightly different in size/shape though. It's fun to see culturally unique differences among M&B factions, especially when playing against themed clans.Agreed 100%. We need more diversity among 1hand users and themed clans. I don't necessarily want to replace the huscy, just add 2-3 more shields for different factions/players.
Note: perhaps this is a good time to suggest that we keep a huscarl-ish shield for hoplites. Maybe increase its cost OR lower its stats, and remove the ugly metal bits from the front. Ancient gear is underrepresented in this game so it may not be a good plan to remove one of the central de facto models players use to roleplay ancient era combat.
Please! I am totally sick of milanese-plated saranid-samurai with huscarl shields and side swords!
This is almost vital to the cRPG community. Give us a shield that equals the huscarl in stats but looks like an actual Knight shield! Perhaps even equal tier shields for all Calradian cultures so that people can really accentuate their styles.
nerf the huscarl shield to pieces! its really annoying no one uses other shields. if there is a shielder it always hasa huscarl shield -.-Shut up Schütze you have no rights and we don't like you.
Dunno. Block their right swing. Overhead with your long maul. Problem solved.
All the other clans have their fancy shields for their rp needs except the mid eastern and romans. But at least mid easterns get armor and the stereotypical scimitar.Crpg's 'time period' doesnt include Romans so its not that strange that you dont have all the Roman stuff you want.
Crpg's 'time period' doesnt include Romans so its not that strange that you dont have all the Roman stuff you want.
I want a roman shield. Boeard shields are slow and useless just gimme a high tier roman shield for roman clans and players. All the other clans have their fancy shields for their rp needs except the mid eastern and romans. But at least mid easterns get armor and the stereotypical scimitar.Heraldic Roman shield! :lol: I'm all for it.
I wonder how many people in this thread actually ever played with a Huscarl themselves...
It's for a reason one of the top-tier shields. Slow to draw, heavy weight, but better than average stats against anything. It's balanced out. Tbh, I don't see a lot of Huscarlshield-users these days. More like Heavy Round Shields or Normans. If I'm correct, the Huscarl costs about 390g upkeep. Too much for most. And combined with a non-spammy 1h (so every 1h below 100 speed on MW-status) you're mostly just too slow against anybody. So, all in all:
Design new ones, but don't replace the Huscarl. For RP-players like me and SeaRaiders for example it's just perfectly looking combined with the complete Nord Huscarl-style.
The steel shield, which has 2 more requirement, is slower than the huscarl. It is smaller, and is less effective against axes. Yep, it has alot of armour, but it seems not to take notice on the 'bonus v shields' bonus on axes.
I wonder how many people in this thread actually ever played with a Huscarl themselves...
It's for a reason one of the top-tier shields. Slow to draw, heavy weight, but better than average stats against anything. It's balanced out. Tbh, I don't see a lot of Huscarlshield-users these days. More like Heavy Round Shields or Normans. If I'm correct, the Huscarl costs about 390g upkeep. Too much for most. And combined with a non-spammy 1h (so every 1h below 100 speed on MW-status) you're mostly just too slow against anybody. So, all in all:
Design new ones, but don't replace the Huscarl. For RP-players like me and SeaRaiders for example it's just perfectly looking combined with the complete Nord Huscarl-style.
What's your point?
I agree. The huscarlshield is too slow for my style (I'm strength based, so it would make me even slower) and I only use it during sieges where I have to fend of/keep busy multiple enemies most of the time.
In battles, I mostly use the knightly heater. It's nice and fast, can take quite some arrows and it looks nice. Breaks rather fast though.
I wonder how many people in this thread actually ever played with a Huscarl themselves...
It's for a reason one of the top-tier shields. Slow to draw, heavy weight, but better than average stats against anything. It's balanced out. Tbh, I don't see a lot of Huscarlshield-users these days. More like Heavy Round Shields or Normans. If I'm correct, the Huscarl costs about 390g upkeep. Too much for most. And combined with a non-spammy 1h (so every 1h below 100 speed on MW-status) you're mostly just too slow against anybody. So, all in all:
Design new ones, but don't replace the Huscarl. For RP-players like me and SeaRaiders for example it's just perfectly looking combined with the complete Nord Huscarl-style.
Shut up Schütze you have no rights and we don't like you.? :shock:
High-end shields have needed more viable options for a LONG time.Yes.
The only real reason to take the heavy board shield over the huscarl is style.One of the only reasons I use it.
(...) The only problem with it is that a regular housecarl shield never lasts longer then about 1 minute or 6 axe hits whichever comes first. (...)
With a 12% chance of blocking directly behind you also.
i'd say decrease the forceshield of the shield skill drastically
Actually I would imagine a forceshield against range weapons (to compensate what the character sees that the player cannot, e.g. the character cannot raise the shield when the player looks down) and remove it completely against melee weapons. To block an attack the shield should be blocking in the correct way.
I use almost exclusively the great axe because of shielders and sometimes I feel it really takes too long to bash a shield (the heirloomed ones I guess). The sidesword (longer than 2h axes and way faster) do not need to 6 hits to kill me. But I guess it is just a matter of perception.
Agree but add a small forceshield to the lower shields because they are pretty useless against arrows right now: you can raise them up towards ennemy archers and get shot like if you don't carry one (not only in the feet, but also in the shoulders, arms and the head). Presently it is better to run hazardously to dodge arrows than to use a Req 1 shield.
yeah, make shields tougher against ranged, but remove most of the forceshield. By the way, i am looking at things in a broad perspective. I dont want to nerf ALL shields, only the ones who clearly do not cover the whole character but because of some magical force do that anyway. This would encourage use of the shields who actually are designed to counter ranged weapons
but the huscarl shield stays i say but there needs to be real motivation to use something other than that
Give me these shields, or give me death!^(click to show/hide)
Or not. I don't even use shields.
Please! I am totally sick of milanese-plated saranid-samurai with huscarl shields and side swords!
This is almost vital to the cRPG community. Give us a shield that equals the huscarl in stats but looks like an actual Knight shield! Perhaps even equal tier shields for all Calradian cultures so that people can really accentuate their styles.
honestly a shield that covers you in 180 degree protection and masks your every movement does not also need to have great durability.This is exactly why it shouldn't have 180 degree protection. I think the forceshield should be minimal.
A shield that size should have serious draw backs as well as cookie points to balance it out rather than it's state now where it is among the
best all-around-shields
but the huscarl shield stays i say but there needs to be real motivation to use something other than that