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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: orbusprime on June 12, 2012, 05:18:18 pm

Title: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: orbusprime on June 12, 2012, 05:18:18 pm
If we have those disgusting samurai armour, why cant we add some roman and greek armour and weapons? There is a lot of nice OSP's with ancient armour, so why not?
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on June 12, 2012, 05:27:14 pm
Let's get all ancient sumerian, babylonian, and stuff. And fight over mesepotamia!
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Sagar on June 12, 2012, 05:48:56 pm
No

Ancient armour and weapons are made from bronze and cant do much damage/protection against medieval armor/weapon.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Miwiw on June 12, 2012, 05:51:14 pm
Don't tell anyone, ppl still think roman gear could compete with other made in the medieval times.  :D
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: orbusprime on June 12, 2012, 06:26:44 pm
No

Ancient armour and weapons are made from bronze and cant do much damage/protection against medieval armor/weapon.
Lorica Segmentata and Lorica Hamata isnt made from bronze.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Tiger on June 12, 2012, 06:34:45 pm
If we have those disgusting samurai armour, why cant we add some roman and greek armour and weapons? There is a lot of nice OSP's with ancient armour, so why not?

Stop hating on Asians!
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Miwiw on June 12, 2012, 07:13:33 pm
Lorica Segmentata and Lorica Hamata isnt made from bronze.

So? Still, you think you could survive a hit of a side sword to such an armor when calling it the best of yours if you go by roman armor only? Nah... just because we have asian armor in (and ONLY because it existed beforehand, if it didn't it wouldn't be in, and you know its kinda difficult to remove it after people used it for about 2 years and probably many people loomed it as well, imagine the QQ, even after the black armor got replaced...), we shouldn't ruin it more ("ruin" in saying, Knights already fight Ninjas and Samurais, not making the game better if they would also have to face the romans now who are already dead since more than 900 years and even more (if you compare the armors by time))....

also if you mean those armors being in the mod "mount & gladius" for example; they look really awful. Even if we were going to add roman armor, I wouldn't take those ...
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: orbusprime on June 12, 2012, 09:57:36 pm
So? Still, you think you could survive a hit of a side sword to such an armor when calling it the best of yours if you go by roman armor only? Nah... just because we have asian armor in (and ONLY because it existed beforehand, if it didn't it wouldn't be in, and you know its kinda difficult to remove it after people used it for about 2 years and probably many people loomed it as well, imagine the QQ, even after the black armor got replaced...), we shouldn't ruin it more ("ruin" in saying, Knights already fight Ninjas and Samurais, not making the game better if they would also have to face the romans now who are already dead since more than 900 years and even more (if you compare the armors by time))....

also if you mean those armors being in the mod "mount & gladius" for example; they look really awful. Even if we were going to add roman armor, I wouldn't take those ...
No, bro. Not this ones. There is some nice OSP's. Not only MnG.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Miwiw on June 12, 2012, 10:16:46 pm
Got a link then?
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: bruce on June 12, 2012, 10:49:42 pm
Personally I would restrict gear to 1000-1300 AD stuff from European and Arab countries, something like 1257 AD mod.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Aleskander on June 13, 2012, 02:29:34 am
Ok, but let's add tanks and guns as well. They are actually closer to what we currently have than that, so it would be more balanced right?
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Boerenlater on June 13, 2012, 03:45:27 am
Use Byz stuff, there is your Eastern Roman Empire.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Kalp on June 13, 2012, 12:57:51 pm
Use Byz stuff, there is your Eastern Roman Empire.
It's a fundamental difference...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Miwiw on June 13, 2012, 01:23:23 pm
It's a fundamental difference...  :rolleyes:

The difference is that ancient armor and weapons dont fit the crpg style right now. A Knight would kill a Roman in a second, a Greek would survive as he has/had similar armor.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Kalp on June 13, 2012, 01:38:05 pm
I agree, but I mean more the difference in appearance of Roman armor like Lorica segmentata and for example Varangopoulos Armor http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=equipshop&cat=body#!?page=itemdetail&id=5503 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=equipshop&cat=body#!?page=itemdetail&id=5503), so even armors from Byzantium time period will not replace the Roman armors. It can't be a substitute.

I agree that they not fit to cRPG and probably we never saw it.

The only solution is to make a separate server for "ancient times", but this also will not happen...unfortunately  :|
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: orbusprime on June 13, 2012, 02:44:52 pm
Got a link then?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,218829.msg5236028.html#msg5236028
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,216238.msg5166451.html#msg5166451
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,143862.msg3457313.html#msg3457313
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Miwiw on June 13, 2012, 03:15:01 pm
The only solution is to make a separate server for "ancient times", but this also will not happen...unfortunately  :|

I agree with all your points Kalp. A seperate server would indeed be amazing, I would indeed level up a character myself if we had an ancient armor set and a different version.

@ orbusprime: They do indeed look a bit better than Mount&Gladius but they would still not fit the crpg style at all. :/ Not making sense to fight a full plate guy with a war cleaver if you wear that kind of armor.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on June 13, 2012, 03:25:45 pm
No, and remove weaboo shit.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: [ptx] on June 13, 2012, 03:29:17 pm
Such things were lobbied for pretty hard in ye olde days, when cRPG was less srs bsns.
Problem number one was that these models had bare hands and legs (which are actually part of the model) and would thus result in skin color being different, if you used them with a char with skin color any other than the most light.
Problem number two was that the devs were unwilling to add this even then.

Oh well :(
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: orbusprime on June 13, 2012, 07:20:02 pm
Ok... Its imposible, i guess. Sad.
Title: Re: Ancient armour and weapons?
Post by: Aleskander on June 13, 2012, 10:51:57 pm
Ok... Its imposible, i guess. Sad.
but not really