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Title: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: TugBoat on June 11, 2012, 07:19:22 pm
I have seen a lot of debate when it comes to the best sword and board builds.

The general consensus seems to state that you want as much strength and power strike as possible.

I also see a lot of skilled players with high agility and high athletics doing quite well.

What do you all think? I am particularly interested in the opinions of our EU friends on this matter.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: BlackMilk on June 11, 2012, 07:21:15 pm
21/15
7 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
5 Shield
5 Athletics
5 Weapon Master
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2012, 07:32:40 pm
I'd say you want 15 agility (for 5 shield and 5 athletics).  So 21 or 24 STR depending on how much IF and WM you want. 

This looks like a good build:

Level:           30

Strength:        24
Agility:         15

Skill to attr:    8

Ironflesh:        3
Power Strike:     8
Shield:           5
Athletics:        5
Weapon Master:    2

One Handed:     123

65 HP

BM's build looks nice for having max WM and Max IF, might be worth going up to 24 to have 8 PS, but it's up to preference.  I only ever have 4 shield and 5 or 6 PS (I was going to not retire so this build I only had 5 PS) and I still do really well with sword+board.  But then again, I use the broad 1h battle axe, so it has 35 cut (hits like a damn train).  I'd recommend if you have 7 or 8 PS to use either the LAS or KAS, or else an elite scimitar (I like having the ability to stab).
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: MrShine on June 11, 2012, 07:35:42 pm
21/15
7 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
5 Shield
5 Athletics
5 Weapon Master
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2012, 07:37:24 pm
Just FYI, going 24 str and 3 IF gives you 65hp, going 21 str and 7 IF gives you 70 HP, so IMO,  I think you'd be better off going 24/15.  However, 2 WM gives you 123 1h skill, 5 WM gives you like 146...so just things to consider.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 11, 2012, 08:06:11 pm
1818 master race
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Tristan on June 11, 2012, 08:09:59 pm
Best sword and board build includes a spear.

21/15. 120 1h + what ever is left in polearm.

7 IF OR 5 riding and 2 IF. Depends on your lusts.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Zanze on June 11, 2012, 08:21:13 pm
Or do 21/15 with throwing.

Throwing or Spear for your cav counter, up to you.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 11, 2012, 08:24:52 pm
Best sword and board build includes a riding option imo.

 
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If you really don't want to ride, I still recommend taking 6 athletics in your build.  5 can get by ok, but 6 is better.

   
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Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Ganner on June 11, 2012, 08:28:49 pm
Depends on what you want to do.  24/15 is a solid build if you want to actually kill armored targets in less than 15 hits.

15/24 however is a very fun SUPPORT build (you will live forever but never kill anything)
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Banok on June 11, 2012, 08:33:06 pm
may as well switch IF for riding and grab a pony, 1h cav is op.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2012, 08:54:20 pm
Actually yeah...21/15 is the way to go.  Fuck IF (or maxed IF and get some throwing or riding).

I think if you're dead set on only using 1h+shield, then go with my 24/15 build
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 11, 2012, 10:12:04 pm
24/15 or 21/15 good players use that builds. i tried 18/18 and 15/21 that were crap builds you cant kill anything. Usless.
Get 7 ps or more
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Osiris on June 11, 2012, 10:20:16 pm
my favoured foot build is the one mentioned earlier

21-15
7ps
7if
5 ath
5shield
5 wm

fact is as a shielder you NEED IF. have you tried playing in the front line? you get team hit by piker heroes or two handers who dont know what they are doing. 1 hit in the back and a hit in the front is enough to ruin your round without IF.

Atm im trying this build out as 1h cav

18-18
6if
6ps
6 shield
5 riding
3 ath
3wm

its pretty fun so far its not too gimped on foot as 6 shield makes up for low ath as i can move around block block block and strike :P
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 11, 2012, 10:36:10 pm
so what do you suggest for weapons for 1h.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Osiris on June 11, 2012, 10:38:09 pm
cant go wrong with a +3 NCS :P
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Bob_Ross on June 11, 2012, 10:38:44 pm
12/24 works rather well with a steel pick
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 11, 2012, 10:40:26 pm
What weapon and sheild you plan to use? Those affect How you are to make the 1h build.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 11, 2012, 10:40:59 pm
To a point, weapons depend on your build AND your play style.

First of all, for 1h, I recommend a loomed weapon.

If you have good athletics (6+) but poor PS, I'd go with a short blunt of pierce weapon.

Higher PS (7+) but lower athletics, I'd go with a longer one like a sword for the reach.

Or you can mix it up if your play style warrants it!  A long weapon can be used well with high athletics because you can control the range better.  Also, a short weapon can be good with low athletics if you have a strong shield to get in close.

I use a 18/18 build and do well with 1h swords.

I recommend carrying an axe as a backup weapon because fighting a shielder as a shielder can be a pain in the ass and take a while. :)
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 11, 2012, 10:43:05 pm
You could always go 1h no sheild if your manaul is good enough. Much fun, though you'll be more gimped versus ranged.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on June 11, 2012, 10:45:30 pm
Ive been going 24/15 the last couple generations,   but also Cav Lancer hybrid.

I dunno I'm leaning back towards 21/18,  It just seems 24 is really ideal for 1-handed damage, but, once I'm in a tight spot on the field, I'm stuck there,  because my opponents can run me down, and being that I often take the front line to protect my fellow non-shielders, I often find myself bieng focused by 3+ angry infantrymen, and can block them and maybe take one or two out, but usually just get over-run and mugged.

I'm actualy considering stopping on retirement, and going 24/18.

Of course as a Cav, 18 AG has alot more possible benefits, but, unless your a blocking phenomenon, or spend your time backed up/ support all the time, more agility than 15 is really attractive, and feels like the 'natural choice' atleast from my experience.

It also gives you the ability to move faster with heavier armor on too.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Corsair831 on June 11, 2012, 10:50:47 pm
as a sword and board always have on you either a spear (to make you immune to cavalry whilst travelling) or throwing.

Also, as a sword and board you can block multiple directions and you will also have a very short weapon compared to most (normal sword is only 95 reach).

Therefore you want high athletics or light armour or both. As a shielder you need to be able to weave between your enemies and block fast both left right etc.

4 or 5 shield skill is the minimum you can really take

if you intend on going heavier armour i'd take 18/21, if lighter 21/18.

if you take throwing you will have to go only 2 conversion point, so if you are light armour (around 5ish)

you can take 21/15 and still be accurate (around 100 throwing WPF is enough with light)

18/18 (with 6 WM/ath) for medium armour (around 12ish weight armour total)

15/21 (your sword will bounce a lot with 5ps) for heavier armours (providing you want to have enough speed to weave between enemies).

Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Osiris on June 11, 2012, 10:54:11 pm
i never take a spear :/ lancer cav will outreach you with your crappy wpf and you can rape them easier with a 1h. side step swing jump stab chamber etc all more effective imo
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 11, 2012, 11:05:28 pm
i never take a spear :/ lancer cav will outreach you with your crappy wpf and you can rape them easier with a 1h. side step swing jump stab chamber etc all more effective imo

Spear can definitely be good if you have trouble with cav or are playing on a cav map.  Doing a jump-attack at a horseman with a 1h weapon will get you killed way more often than trying to take them out with a spear.
However, the BEST advice if you are a shielder getting charged by a horse and you don't want to die: turtle up until he passes then seek cover.

I prefer to take an axe as a backup weapon.  Sometimes, I take a steel pick as a backup if I find myself facing a lot of heavily armored opponents.  It helps a lot!

Some people take ranged as a backup (xbow & bolts or throwing)
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on June 11, 2012, 11:11:03 pm
i never take a spear :/ lancer cav will outreach you with your crappy wpf and you can rape them easier with a 1h. side step swing jump stab chamber etc all more effective imo

True, but if you've tried that and still get owned, you can do what I do:

Throw a Boar Spear/ Military fork on your back.  Yes, they are shorter than a lance.  but if you use footwork  you can mess them up alot easier than using a one hander.  AND  often when they see you with it, they just avoid you, (And the archers and non shielders your protecting.)

The Boar doesnt get me alot of kills itself, but it gets me alot of horse kills/damage which is priceless for the price of a super cheap extra weapon (1180 to buy - upkeep is silly low).  I recommend trying the military fork first, as its longer, but if you get good at it, and wanna lower your upkeep, then try a boar spear next.

Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 11, 2012, 11:14:49 pm
True, but if you've tried that and still get owned, you can do what I do:

Throw a Boar Spear/ Military fork on your back.  Yes, they are shorter than a lance.  but if you use footwork  you can mess them up alot easier than using a one hander.  AND  often when they see you with it, they just avoid you, (And the archers and non shielders your protecting.)

The Boar doesnt get me alot of kills itself, but it gets me alot of horse kills/damage which is priceless for the price of a super cheap extra weapon (1180 to buy - upkeep is silly low).  I recommend trying the military fork first, as its longer, but if you get good at it, and wanna lower your upkeep, then try a boar spear next.

Here's a cool tip: you can do the same thing with the lowly pitchfork. :)  It is cheap enough to be free and has the same deterrent effect!  Also, it makes horses rear just as well.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Vingnir the Wanderer on June 11, 2012, 11:17:54 pm
^^ true that!    8-)  (I like the boar though, because it doesnt mess with my vision as much when its on my back, and it does 27 pierce - pretty wicked.)

But yeah, overall the pitchfork is a better deal.  Although, be prepared to be accused of using a cheap nub weapon, and also be prepared to stop the horse, but not finish it off.  I get accused of being cheap w/ the boar and military fork sometimes too, but alot less than when i used the pitchfork (actually its been a while since anyone talked shit - but then I've been doing horribly lately, so maybe there is no reason to complain lol). I guess that shouldnt matter, but, maybe why I use them is the damage - the Military fork and boar spear hit pretty damned hard.

I'd say try em all and see what works for ya as an individual.

And if your sword and board, and dont have a spear, well, make sure your either superman w/ the blocks, or a have enough agility after armor to still be able to move out of peoples way, or your in for a frustrating ride....  :lol:  I'm actually pretty good with blocking multiple people (w/ a shield that is), but when you cant get away from ANY of them (remember your bieng weighed dowen by a shield in addition to a weapon, your opponent likely is not...), it usually ends up being a bad situation, heh.

Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: rebbrown on June 11, 2012, 11:32:19 pm
I re-genned a few days ago and went with a 1h+shield build. Going for the standard 21/15 build and I'm using a broad one handed axe right now which I'm loving. As long as you don't face high-end tin-cans, you should be doing great damage and you'll make short work of enemy shields. The range means you'll need to get close, but that's cool since it kind of gimps most 2handers. Not sure whether I should stick to my huscarl shield or get a faster one :)
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
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Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 12, 2012, 12:58:13 am
12/24 +3 Nordic Short Sword +3 Plain Cav shield, a nice dress.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Vicious666 on June 12, 2012, 03:44:52 am
best build ever is based on lev 34 or 35

15-27 end of story

5 if
5 ps
6 shield
7 athletics
9 wm
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: BaleOhay on June 12, 2012, 04:49:47 am
21/15
7 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
5 Shield
5 Athletics
5 Weapon Master

everything in 1 handed.

Ohay

If not this then 18/18 is my next fav
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: San on June 12, 2012, 05:45:51 am
best lvl 30 build is 21/15

best lvl 32/33 build is 24/15 or 21/18

best lvl 34/35 build is 24/21 0 WM or 21/21 or 24/18 with WM

You need 7 PS at minimum and everything else is just extra.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Gurnisson on June 12, 2012, 06:21:30 am
18/18, 6 IF, 6 PS, 6 Ath, 6 Shield, 5 WM
18/21 6 PS, 7 Ath, 7 Shield, 3 WM/IF (My personal favourite and also Lezard's preferred 1H build)

Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Vodner on June 12, 2012, 06:25:00 am
18/21 is fun. You just have to really watch your sweetspots, and make sure every hit nails the head.

Whether or not sacrificing a ton of IF and WM is worth +1 ath is a tough decision, however.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Ramsay on June 12, 2012, 06:55:32 am
I played 18/21 and 18/24 (31lv) 1h  for a few generations. Now trying out 27/12. Both are good.

Agi shielders are generally a good counter for light armored fast units like archers and ninjas.

Str shielders are ok against anything except maybe cav. They're excellent in formation. Have good survivability if you invest in high armor.

My advice: If u can pull of hitting opponents face like 50 - 60% of the time, and getting 2-1 shotted by almost anyone doesn't bother you- play agi. Otherwise play str.

Or just try both builds on "skip the fun" and see what works for you :)
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Tristan on June 12, 2012, 02:13:19 pm
Imo with only 6 ps and hi agility you need another weapon that swords or you will be too long about killing anything.

Agility builds works best with picks I guess.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Gurnisson on June 12, 2012, 02:52:00 pm
Imo with only 6 ps and hi agility you need another weapon that swords or you will be too long about killing anything.

Agility builds works best with picks I guess.

Maces >> Picks. Still, I've used swords a lot with 6 ps, they're good enough with it. I wouldn't recommend 1h swords with 5 ps or lower though.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Para on June 12, 2012, 03:33:59 pm
This is a heavy armor 1h shielder/xbow hybrid build:

24/12
8 IF
8 PS
4 WM
4 SH
4 ATH

116 1H
90 Xbow

Slow and tanky, hits like a truck. Really good for siege if you want to bully people.

Rocking a steel pick and a plate covered round shield. You are also still capable of sniping people with 90 xbow skill, giving you overall an incredible amount of utility and usefulness.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Turboflex on June 12, 2012, 03:45:12 pm
^That works too, choice of xbow or throw is up to you. Xbow can snipe at medium-long range but at short range you just get one shot. Throwing gives you ability to drop some heavy DPS at short range and on the run, so good for gunning down runners, or horses (throw while dodgeing charge).

Throwing hybrid:  PT 4 or 5 and 90-110 throwing wpf. All your speed issues go away, you can reach out and touch someone with your throwing axes instead of running like some kind of sucker.
1h WPF is really overrated btw, don't waste a lot of points into WM, you don't need more than 100-110 wpf, WPF beyond 100 is like 1% of a factor combat, the 99% of combat is timing, precision and footwork.


24-12 hybrid (my build)
107 throw wpf
103 1h wpf
4 IF
8 PS
4 ATH
4 SHIELD
5 PT
4 WM
That suits my style and armour, you can go 4 PT, but I really like the way the 5 PT gives my heavy axes more stopping power, worth 1 IF to me, plus you can pickup jarids. The throw WPF equired heavily depends on armour, especially gloves & helm which have large WTF weight penalties.

You can do the same thing but 21-15, but I found the extra PS point (and 2 IF) worth more in  melee than 1 shield, 1 athletics and 1 WM.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Corsair831 on June 12, 2012, 04:30:41 pm
i never take a spear :/ lancer cav will outreach you with your crappy wpf and you can rape them easier with a 1h. side step swing jump stab chamber etc all more effective imo

that's bs. i played an entire gen with 1h/shield and a 1 wpf war spear and never died to cav from the front. it's so easy to just stab his horse in the head it just takes a tiny bit of timing.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 05:21:54 pm
I see some wolfes dude with 12 str and 24 agi,he is very good. He use steel pick,hits like truck.
Kills with 2-3 hits heavy armored ppl. Unbelevable.

So i have my alt with 21str,but i don't know what weapon should i use. Iron axe with 37 cut looks nice,it is realy great when you smash other shielder shield,but i don't get some awsome score with it. Usualy it is 7:4 or 7:5 or 5:5. As shileder are u soppoused to play offensice,defensive,fight in first line or something else. I find hard fighting in first battle lines,cuz you have low reach and there is always some piker or some agi whore sneaking arround.
Also i dont know what should i use warhammer or steel pick.
Please help.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Turboflex on June 12, 2012, 05:24:51 pm
If you cant do well with iron war axe then warhammer or steel pick won't magically make you better. They are all the same style of weapon (very short range, facehugging) and it takes a while to become good at fighting with that style.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: BaleOhay on June 12, 2012, 06:46:05 pm
I use three weapons and a one slot shield. Iberian mace for main damage. one hand battle axe to break down shields. a sword when I need more speed and reach
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on June 12, 2012, 06:52:51 pm
Personally, I don't think any of the axes, warhammer, or pick are very good if you do not have 6 athletics. Unless I suppose you wear light armor and have one of the lighter shields.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 07:06:22 pm
So with 7 ps and current 3 athl what do u suggest for me to use? i will go for 21/15 build.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Turboflex on June 12, 2012, 07:16:10 pm
San of chaos is 24-15 I think, wears medium-hvy armour and does well with the pick, its all about comfort. Once you get very familiar with a weapon you become really good at using its range perfectly which makes up for downsides.

Mlecke, 21-15 is a good start, experiment with different weapons, like regular swords, stabbing swords (espada), short range power weapons, there's even some unique weapons in the middle price range like military hammer, nordic war sword, arabian cavalry sword, italian sword, that some people swear by and really kick ass with. You can also experiment with more PS in your next gen and/or hybrid.

1h/shielder takes a while to become good with, footwork/weapon familiarity/timing are all different and you can't expect instant results.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 07:20:50 pm
well it is still better then my 2h,and i am bigginer in 1h,and i was playin with 2h for 3-4 gens. :lol: So yeah,maybie 1h is good afterall.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 12, 2012, 07:23:15 pm
If you only have 3 athletics, I'd recommend using a sword for reach.

What kind of shield are you using?
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 09:00:14 pm
Round shield. :D It is big,very big.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 12, 2012, 09:05:59 pm
Round shield. :D It is big,very big.

Yes, that one has nice side-to-side coverage.
I was asking because once you can use a stronger shield, it's ok to take a shorter weapon.  This is because you'll have to take a hit or two while you get in range of your opponent.

With your current build and shield, I'd still recommend a longer (90 length or more) weapon.  But try different ones out!  You may be surprised that you take naturally to one or another.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: BaleOhay on June 12, 2012, 09:08:06 pm
5 alth is fine with my Iberian. With or without a shield I do well with it. Herald with tabard is my usual armor and a round shield. Tho I prefer the heavy round
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 12, 2012, 09:42:01 pm
I'd say the most important thing about being 1h/shield is to never let a fight drag on. The quicker you finish the opponet the better. If you can't do that, run the hell away.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 12, 2012, 09:50:00 pm
well today is better. i can't describe pleasure when i kill some 2h that i couldn't kill as 2h. :lol:
Only thing that i realy hate is tw that i get a lot. In clusterfucks i get 2-3 th usualy. I can't say that i am better cuz i tk 2 dudes,but that is realy big problem.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Penitent on June 12, 2012, 09:58:32 pm
I'd say the most important thing about being 1h/shield is to never let a fight drag on. The quicker you finish the opponet the better. If you can't do that, run the hell away.

See, I find the opposite is true.  As a shielder I find that patience is a virtue.  You can't kill as fast as a 2h or pole user, and they want to kill fast...so use that to your advantage. 
They WILL mess up eventually with blocking.  You will NOT...not while you have a shield.  Therefore, time is on your side.
Then again, I use a MP kite shield so it takes a long time to break it.  Still, I think patience is golden.

Quote
Only thing that i realy hate is tw that i get a lot. In clusterfucks i get 2-3 th usualy. I can't say that i am better cuz i tk 2 dudes,but that is realy big problem.

Yes, this is a problem.  Because you have to get closer, team hits will come.  Just be careful and don't be too eager if you see lots of teamies going after 1 guy.  Wear medium armor or better to defend against team its.  It's really unfortunate.  No one notices or cares about the little shielder in the fray.  :(

 :P
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 12, 2012, 10:10:59 pm
See, I find the opposite is true.  As a shielder I find that patience is a virtue.  You can't kill as fast as a 2h or pole user, and they want to kill fast...so use that to your advantage. 
They WILL mess up eventually with blocking.  You will NOT...not while you have a shield.  Therefore, time is on your side.
Then again, I use a MP kite shield so it takes a long time to break it.  Still, I think patience is golden.

I've only done about 2-3 gens of 23 as a 1h. one 24/15 the other 18/18 and a third gen as a HC with 1h, no sheild. Of those 3, the best was the HC mainly because of the ranged component, followed by a tie between the other two. In all honesty, fighting 2h is boring and sucks especially if they are in heavy armor. (Gear used as 1h is Brown lion, Broad 1h battle axe, and a sword. I wear the black lameller MW to 41 armor. Nothing else loomed as a 1h.)

Now for kill time: If you start dueling, it's not worth it to protract the fight Kill them in 3 hits or find a new target. The longer you duel an opponet the more chances your fight starts to become interfered with. Just my experience as a i've played nearly all melee classes makes me say kill the opponent quick regardless of class(1h/2h/pole).
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on June 12, 2012, 11:26:10 pm
I went a gen as shielder recently, did the 21/15 you're aiming for. I used a +3 Steel Pick and let me say, that thing hits like a train and is incredibly nice overall. I think once you get used to the length, it's amazing. And 5 ath was plenty for me. And I topped the scoreboards most of the time I played with it, so it must be good considering I never played shielder before that. :P
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Taser on June 13, 2012, 12:52:14 am
I'm trying out a 21/18 build. Fun so far. Since I want to have a ranged backup for strat, I went xbow in case I need to be xbow.

Went

7 PS
6 Ath
5 Shield
5 WM

120 1h
105 xbow

Not too bad so far. Using a KAS atm but might switch to pick. Picks hit so hard that the length handicap is easy to ignore.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 13, 2012, 12:53:36 am
swords are bad they glance a lot,and dmg is poor. I am gonna buy +3 warhammer. But i don't know its real price on market. :|
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Taser on June 13, 2012, 12:56:47 am
Nah swords are fine especially with 7 PS. They don't hit as hard as picks or warhammer but swords still do well. Warhammer is fun though. Blunt damage plus knockdown is nice.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Bob_Ross on June 13, 2012, 12:56:58 am
swords are bad they glance a lot,and dmg is poor. I am gonna buy +3 warhammer. But i don't know its real price on market. :|

I agree. Just got myself a warhammer too. Lovely weapon, fun to use. The standard 21/15 build seems to work just fine for me, especially with a heavier shield.
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: Mlekce on June 13, 2012, 01:31:34 am
I agree. Just got myself a warhammer too. Lovely weapon, fun to use. The standard 21/15 build seems to work just fine for me, especially with a heavier shield.

well for siedge it worked fine with KAS. 14:4 score.  :P But in battle it is not so good,ppl use more armor there,and they use different builds then ppl on siedge. What realy dissapointed me is steel military pick not so good after all. I hit anal bleeding like 5-6 times with 7ps and he killed me in the end. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Best Sword+Board Build?
Post by: TugBoat on June 13, 2012, 01:59:49 am
I like Arabian Cav Sword, Elite Scimitar, Steel Pick, and Broad One Handed Battle Axe. Having trouble trading for a steel pick though. I like the brown lion shield