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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Leshma on June 09, 2012, 02:40:21 am
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Okay, since last petition was huge success, I've decided to start a new one.
Along with 2H lolstab this is now the most pressing issue in cRPG. I won't open thread dedicated to 2H lolopstab, there are much better candidates to carry on that task,
Anyways, back to topic. Heavy Lance is the single most damaging weapon and cav are best performers on scoreboard. This will be huge hit to their performance and one step further to ultimate balance.
Just-do-it!
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no
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Couching is rarely used on Light,reg,heavy lance, the thrust does about as much damage with extra range,even so, people will switch to morningstar cav which is still pierce damage and a bit easier to aim resulting in more kills.
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Oh good, as long as you don't ruin my precious baby the double sided lance then everything is okay.
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Just remove lolstab already and it's 2h>pole>cav>2h again!
I can't see a reason to use pole but for "opening" doors, crushing shields and stopping cav.....
couched cav doesn't outreach regular poleman most of the time, let it be a privileg and remove that darn lolstab!
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Oh good, as long as you don't ruin my precious baby the double sided lance then everything is okay.
I don't understand why it even has couch as an option. I mean..can you fucking even couch people with that bs length? Only like 130 iirc lol.
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I don't know :/ I haven't seen the EU cav play their games but on NA the vast majority of kills by lance cav are pokes.
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My build cannot thrust well (low PS), i would become extremely useless if my light lance canot couch
P.S: And yes i paid my price, is that i can die from 1 crossbow bolt if it was close, (even light xbow from HX can 1 shot me)
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Np is actually No, if any of you were wondering :lol:
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My build cannot thrust well (low PS), i would become extremely useless if my light lance canot couch
P.S: And yes i paid my price, is that i can die from 1 crossbow bolt if it was close, (even light xbow from HX can 1 shot me)
So why not use the great lance if you can't poke people, and have to rely on couch ?
Because you still want to poke people ?
The fact that you wear a shitty armor that let you die from 1 light xbow shot is your own fault. Dresses are not meant to protect you.
I see dedicated couching cavs, with the great lance. They don't have any thrust. And i don't see why all the other lances usable on horse back should have that couching. You want to poke three people in 6 seconds, use the heavy lance or whatever. You want to be able to one hit a tincan, break a steel shield ? Use the great lance. You want to be able to do both, couching an unaware pikeman, before poking three guys in the clusterfuck before riding away ? Damn abuser.
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Heavy Lance is the single most damaging weapon and cav are best performers on scoreboard.
False Leshma, i can top score with light lance same goes for every lance except great lance/ jousting lance and heavy lance, for some reason I don't know but i suck at using heavy lance. BTW heavy horse got nerf patch from patch, their damage is lower than light lance / normal lance, thats not realistic is it?
I see dedicated couching cavs, with the great lance. They don't have any thrust. And i don't see why all the other lances usable on horse back should have that couching. You want to poke three people in 6 seconds, use the heavy lance or whatever. You want to be able to one hit a tincan, break a steel shield ? Use the great lance. You want to be able to do both, couching an unaware pikeman, before poking three guys in the clusterfuck before riding away ? Damn abuser.
The reason I am wearing light gear it is because that is the max protection I can wear (As i said i have very low PS and low STR), yes I am a dedicated couching cav. Great lance is completely useless when your horse gets stop or dismount, it's useless in city maps and maps that are not open, they are only good in open plains, using weapons like lance/ heavy lance/ light lance will be able to fight on foot once you dismount, great lance cant, it's easier to control other lances than the great lance, , basically once your horse gets stop you're a goner, the length is just way long and hard to control and the reload time for couch in great lance takes forever, it's just not my style sorry, if they were removed i might change to other class instead of being a lancer
Edit: Couching is risky, it's a bit like 50 % live or 50% death, Great lance is suppose to be a secondary weapon for 1 handed cav, not for lancers, i would use the great lance if it were thrustable, but sadly its not
Also Couching is the only way to kill Heavy Horses in a effective way, removing it will buff Heavy Horses alot against Lancer, it will buff 1 handed cav and tbh couching is the only way for me to scare Royanss away, if i can only thrust i will probably get kill by him every single round in cav duel. Without the couch infantry will just keep using down block while keep getting bump all the time
Obviously players who ain't lancers will vote for yes to gain advantage to their class
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that is same shit as removing crushthrough from upper hits by maul.Case closed.
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Well, this is a long shot. So was polestagger removal.
But I've stated my opinion and we'll see how community will vote. So far, they are against it.
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no
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I don't understand why it even has couch as an option. I mean..can you fucking even couch people with that bs length? Only like 130 iirc lol.
Yep..
Just look at the +1'ers of the OP, QQers will QQ.
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Remove couch. Restore lance thrust radius. (oh and half horsebump) Then I'll consider making a cav alt to kill all you shitties who voted no.
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Yeah, next move would be lance radius increase.
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Yeah, next move would be lance radius increase.
Yeah but the very first move should be 2h lolstab removal. After that is done, I am willing to give up my couching ability (which I don't use that often btw) and receive the old lance radius.
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I know that but I have no idea how to "fix" 2H lolstab that's why I didn't make the thread. If you know a good way please post it and I'll vote for it.
Greatswords are unbalanced now, they needs nerf that's for sure.
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oh I know how to fix lolstab but I also know it's never going to happen. Just make them great swords use polearm stab animation. Simple as that.
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Yes Yes Yes
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Just make them great swords use polearm stab animation. Simple as that.
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I'd take lancing back up if we had normal lance angles, without couching, and with 2h pikestab.
As it is, it feels so horrible; then again, I have only tried to lance for 5-6 hours in the new system and it is very hard after playing various mods and stuff for years to learn how to lance with your right hand joints welded in place.
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Okay, since last petition was huge success, I've decided to start a new one.
Along with 2H lolstab this is now the most pressing issue in cRPG. I won't open thread dedicated to 2H lolopstab, there are much better candidates to carry on that task,
Anyways, back to topic. Heavy Lance is the single most damaging weapon and cav are best performers on scoreboard. This will be huge hit to their performance and one step further to ultimate balance.
Just-do-it!
BRAIN FART
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Sadly, community voted no.
But I must admit that I was a bit wrong in OP. Twohanded stab is maybe even more broken than heavy lance couch.
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This will be huge hit to their performance and one step further to ultimate balance.
Just-do-it!
Delusional world is delusional.
See end of desire to game :wink:
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Ok, only if all horses get +20% maneuver, HP and speed and +100% charge.
Tbh you can't just nerf cav based on higher (and I'd even say it's more volatile rather than actually high) battle mode k/d. Cav doesn't work well against people playing together with voice conf, even not competitively. And if you look at it closely you'll see when cav top the scoreboards, it's usually because they were able to kill the weakest, not the important targets.
Furthermore, doing this would only cause more jousting/great lance people to show up. And I can guarantee you don't want that to happen.
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The only acceptable trade off for removing couching from the thrusting lances is to bring back the lance of compensation.
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:lol: no