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Title: Buff archers
Post by: Ronin on June 02, 2012, 10:49:41 am
Do it.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Muki on June 02, 2012, 11:16:58 am
any other reasons? before the haters hit this thread?
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Thorondor on June 02, 2012, 11:17:40 am
I support this suggestion
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Molly on June 02, 2012, 11:18:17 am
I call Bullshit on this one.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Ronin on June 02, 2012, 11:19:39 am
Do it or I'll put your body to good use.
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Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: engurrand on June 02, 2012, 11:30:17 am
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Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: XyNox on June 02, 2012, 12:20:27 pm
Penisshots should change the targets gender to female. Irreversible.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Momo on June 02, 2012, 02:01:33 pm
No.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: sF_Guardian on June 02, 2012, 02:10:05 pm
+1 cuz of all those anti archer whine threads
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 03:52:10 pm
The op lacks detail. Rage magnet.

Buff them in a reballancing way, dont just make current archers stronger.

Remove kiting by making the stand and fight archer build more atractive, and do this by reducing the armor penalty on accuracy, without buffing it for light armored archers.

A medium armored archer would move slower than a tincan with athlectics I believe, but if we have a better chance to beat noobs in melee, then there wont even be a need to run.

Its basicaly a choice between kiting and standing, this would considerably reduce the amount of kiters I think, because running is no fun.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Wiltzu on June 02, 2012, 03:56:17 pm
NERF ARCHERS!!! NERF EM!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 04:00:38 pm
That doesn't help either.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Miwiw on June 02, 2012, 04:13:34 pm
I support the op's request.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Kafein on June 02, 2012, 04:45:17 pm
Quote from: XyNox on June 02, 2012, 12:20:27 pm
Penisshots should change the targets gender to female. Irreversible.

Already implemented
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: XyNox on June 02, 2012, 06:22:27 pm
Quote from: Kafein on June 02, 2012, 04:45:17 pm
Already implemented

LET THE PENISHUNT BEGIN !!!
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: bruce on June 02, 2012, 06:49:52 pm
Increase damage of all ranged by 50%, increase weight of bolts / arrows / etc by 250% so you have to drop them to run away.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 07:31:37 pm
Quote from: bruce on June 02, 2012, 06:49:52 pm
Increase damage of all ranged by 50%, increase weight of bolts / arrows / etc by 250% so you have to drop them to run away.

So that archers have to drop their arrows to follow the army?
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: bruce on June 02, 2012, 07:38:08 pm
Nonsense. They will just move at the pace of everyone else then.

That said, who knows, maybe people will use a shieldwall or something on an open map for a change if ranged isn't only an annoyance except vs peasantry, horses and in case of headshot.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 08:29:17 pm
That would require teamplay.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: bruce on June 02, 2012, 08:40:43 pm
There used to be it on open maps because of ranged & cav rape.

But anyway, if you're as fast as an ordinary infantryman you can keep up with the combat. You just can't lolkite. In return, you can kill people with less shots.

 A 2 IF guy with 13 str and haubergeon can survive a MW arbalest+MW bolt shot, or quite a bit of arrows. A heirloomed longbow won't kill a naked peasant. Throwing was raped. Bit silly.

I mean the old old old archers which could oneshot 5IF + mail with a strong bow (not sure how it's called now, but it was a mid-tier bow) were absurd and good riddance, and the arrow speed reduction is very welcome, but the damage now is meh.


Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Adamar on June 02, 2012, 09:48:20 pm
I dont see it working, rapping everything from a distance just to lose the ability to kite? The playerbase would GTX before they adapted to that.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: bruce on June 02, 2012, 09:59:19 pm
50% isn't rape. We lived (and whined, with reason) at something like 100++% the damage it is now + the ability to lolsnipe with superfast arrows + etc. Would be more shields on the battlefield, would be more deaths during random herp derp twohander zerging, and cavalry would get shot down more.

50% is more like being able to kill a naked guy with a single shot from a MW longbow; or being able to one-shot a low to mid armoured player with low HP using a MW arbalest. That's not gamebreaking, that's common sense.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Torost on June 02, 2012, 11:45:30 pm
The damage from archers will always be on the lowside, the majority of players want to play mass dueling not battle.
Crossbows on the hand gets a pass, oddly enough.

I dislike the archerpenalties for wearing armor,PD/wpfrestrictions and only shiiity 0slot weapons that are only good for blocking.
The idea that archers == peasants is just silly.
Removing these restrictions would reduce alot of the QQing from the superheroesgang related to archers playing the only way they can. By releasing arrows, cant release arrows if you are dead from a duel you had no chance of winning.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: bruce on June 02, 2012, 11:57:27 pm
Crossbows are also shit compared to what they were. An agibuild with no IF used to be instakilled by the old sniper.

Throwing, too.

Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Rico on June 03, 2012, 03:06:11 pm
Archers are fine. I am an archer and can't complain.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Ronin on June 03, 2012, 03:32:49 pm
What are you still discussing? Buff the goddamn archery already!
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Miwiw on June 03, 2012, 03:37:59 pm
Ye, give us 30 STR, 10 IF/10PS by default!!
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: sF_Guardian on June 03, 2012, 03:43:45 pm
Quote from: Miwiw99 on June 03, 2012, 03:37:59 pm
Ye, give us 30 STR, 10 IF/10PS by default!!

And restriction to 1 wpf :D
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: XyNox on June 03, 2012, 07:03:51 pm
Buff plox
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Ronin on June 03, 2012, 08:08:02 pm
Why don't we
-increase all items weight by (x 5) and
-make 13 points in TwoHanded/Pole decrease 1 point of athletics

so that no one can dodge arrows. Yes this is actually a good suggestion.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Zandieer on June 04, 2012, 02:11:07 pm
Quote from: sF_Guardian on June 02, 2012, 02:10:05 pm
+1 cuz of all those anti archer whine threads

Haha, check the guys who downvote you; the archer whine thread starters  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Quote from: Ronin on June 02, 2012, 11:19:39 am
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Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Herkkutatti on June 04, 2012, 02:12:37 pm
Move to spam and delete all their accounts who pressed + / wanted the buff.
Title: Re: Buff archers
Post by: Ronin on June 06, 2012, 09:16:46 am
I was away for 4-5 days, and this thread is getting dead. NO I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN!

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