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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: owens on May 24, 2012, 05:13:42 am
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Would pit good players against each other. Would put even amounts of each class on each team.
Banner balance could remain.
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Also low level players of high skill would be accounted for.
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win loss is a better stat.
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Zisa knows what's up.
Being a good player is more than getting the final blow on dudes. It's also about de-horsing cav, protecting xbowmen who can't get to cover to reload, knocking over guys with your horse who are fighting your teammates, etc etc etc.
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^On average similar people with similar play styles, builds & load-outs will have similar kdr's. The basis of my theory is that cav(normally good kdr) will be fighting against cav.
Win loss does not address the class balance.
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I have a bad K/D ratio, but I believe I overall do a heavy amount of damage. I focus on cav though, I dehorse a lot without killing the rider which isn't accounted too.
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^and you would be balanced accordingly unless of course you assume that you are the only horse killer.
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I have 2.1:1 (not played battle since lvl 26). I have lvl 29. Do you seriously think i contribute as much as some cav easymodder ?
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Better W:L ratio since it better reflects the actual battle effectiveness of the player for the team.
The formula should also contain a factor for shape of the day, last month or so.
And include some formula for classes. Shouldn't be always 50 50 cav on each side, since that would become more monotonous, but perhaps the balancer could pit the archers in one team, and all the cav in the other etc..
Or that pikemen and cav would have a tendency to end in opposite teams or so.
Just ideas, but in general I think there is room for improvement in the autobalancer.
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balance should be only by lvl, banner and class imo
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balance should be only by lvl, banner and class imo
Agreed.
It doesn't need to be complex. Balance by class/skills (and if possible equipment you have set to spawn with), the player's level, and then if possible, by banner.
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I don't think you understand. Kd is dependant on every variable mentioned above.
WIN LOSS DOES NOT ADDRESS CLASS BALANCE. Win loss would be as good as useless.
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I don't think you understand. Kd is dependant on every variable mentioned above.
WIN LOSS DOES NOT ADDRESS CLASS BALANCE. Win loss would be as good as useless.
KD doesn't say who killed whom, which is pretty important.
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I have a bad K/D ratio, but I believe I overall do a heavy amount of damage. I focus on cav though, I dehorse a lot without killing the rider which isn't accounted too.
That playstyle isnt worth much, its not hard to just find another horse the battlefield is usually filled with riderless horses. Or you can fight on foot and be about as effective as any other melee.
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That playstyle isnt worth much, its not hard to just find another horse the battlefield is usually filled with riderless horses. Or you can fight on foot and be about as effective as any other melee.
Don't try to jedi mind fuck him out of an anti cav role you stinker.
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Stop shooting the poor horses, they didn't do anything.
Shoot the rider instead.
And to op : No k/d.
But i'll be pleased if more than the win/loss ratio you could add a class balance. Some maps are really boring if you're in the wrong team (full excellent k/d cavs + randomers VS all range+excellent longspear user + randomers)
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That playstyle isnt worth much, its not hard to just find another horse the battlefield is usually filled with riderless horses. Or you can fight on foot and be about as effective as any other melee.
I disagree, if there's "good" cavalry, killing their horse neuters their ability to traverse the battlefield and pick away at your teammates. It's not as good as killing the rider, but killing a horseman's horse is extremely effective for stopping that cavalry's ability to kill people as quickly as they could on horse.
And to the others saying "shoot or stab the rider not the horse"...any halfway decent cavalry lancer will realize when I'm going to thrust and hit them before they hit me, so they either down block, or put their shield up. Why would I want to thrust at the rider only to be blocked by them? If they are blocking, or they see me coming and I think they will block, I stab your fucking horse. And if I'm lucky I kill the fucker and now you're on the ground thumbing your ass.
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It would be best if it had teams and roles, and balanced accordingly. Fuck KDR and W:L. This way cav would be against cav; and similar numbers of cav, archers and melee on each team. If they're balanced on their effectiveness, they won't really improve if they're distributed randomly. If this doesn't make sense to you, utilize your peanut brain (not peanut head) and think. A noob cav fucks over a noob infantry, but is bent over by a noob ranger.
E.G.
Choose Team:
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Red Team
Green Team
Choose Role:
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Infantry:
Archer/xbow:
Cavalry:
PK:
Then it'd be filled out accordingly.
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KD instead of class selection. Each class have different average kd tiers. PK the top tier then cav infantry and the rest. This idea doesn't require the implementation of any new game features.