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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Huey Newton on May 17, 2012, 09:19:29 pm

Title: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Huey Newton on May 17, 2012, 09:19:29 pm
Unban please. I'll write a beautiful essay if you desire it.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2012, 09:21:54 pm
/Pats Huey on back

GOOD JOB! You did a very good job!

Now i dedicate this song/clip to you.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: cmp on May 17, 2012, 09:22:09 pm
I think first you have to write the essay and then you get unbanned. :|
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on May 17, 2012, 09:22:18 pm
Libernate. Or Huey. Whatever it's all the same.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Casimir on May 17, 2012, 09:23:15 pm
I like huey

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Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Mustikki on May 17, 2012, 09:32:05 pm
NOOOOOOO!

He got the exams on autumn too.

We can't be sure he got through them yet.

PICS OR IT NEVER HAPPENED!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on May 17, 2012, 09:53:08 pm
What is the title of unban essay? Give this man his game back. Or he will punch a wall again. Except the wall will be cmpx's face.  :shock:
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 17, 2012, 10:09:32 pm
I think first you have to write the essay and then you get unbanned. :|

"how can I be so awesome and beutiful AT THE SAME TIME!"
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Digglez on May 17, 2012, 10:15:47 pm
Sorry no, we'll need a note from your Psychologist to show you are emotionally stable enough to handle online video games.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: EyeBeat on May 17, 2012, 10:16:07 pm
Make it permanent.
I'll delete my character when I get home later today
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 17, 2012, 10:20:02 pm
Let him back in, there are countless players who have done far worse and still play.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but Huey has always acted nice to me and is a cool person.

I mean, we have a guy who fucked up the database for a week and deleted a bunch of stuff, and that person still plays. We also have someone who accidently had 100 CD keys too, and that person is all alive and well too.

Huey tked a few (thousand) people, big deal.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2012, 10:22:23 pm
Let him back in, there are countless players who have done far worse and still play.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but Huey has always acted nice to me and is a cool person.

I mean, we have a guy who fucked up the database for a week and deleted a bunch of stuff, and that person still plays.

Huey tked a few (thousand) people, big deal.

And he likes and listens to JMT. Unban him alrdy ffs.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 17, 2012, 10:44:57 pm
Huey for president 2012
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Tyrell on May 17, 2012, 10:55:50 pm
Sorry no, we'll need a note from your Psychologist to show you are emotionally stable enough to handle online video games.
People must love doing things with you.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 11:13:32 pm
unban he
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Goldor on May 18, 2012, 12:24:46 am
People must love doing things with you.

Yes, yes we do ;0).
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on May 18, 2012, 12:27:51 am
Unbannnnn hueyyyyy. There are far worse people in the community.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Lech on May 18, 2012, 01:34:56 am
Permaban him on EU servers. NA ? Who cares about some na ?
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blackzilla on May 18, 2012, 02:06:49 am
Huey only Tk's to keep us 99%ers in line. Every time i get tk'ed by him, it is my fault, I got in his way.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Bobthehero on May 18, 2012, 02:14:04 am
That's my line :(
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: TugBoat on May 18, 2012, 02:27:08 am
I've been grievously team wounded by Huey multiple times, but I don't think it's intentional and usually he helps team more than hurts team. I think what makes it such a noticeable thing is that when the TK happens and happens again, (not on purpose) it makes the victim mad. It's a very rage inducing thing and that's why it's so out there.

Unban he!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 18, 2012, 02:29:10 am
Unban him or feel the rage of the Greek KRAKEN!!  :mad:
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Allers on May 18, 2012, 02:31:34 am
if im not banned why is he?
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: LordBerenger on May 18, 2012, 10:06:54 am
if im not banned why is he?

Cuz u won over admins/devs in World of Tanx and let them unban u.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: SixThumbs on May 18, 2012, 04:58:37 pm
I thought rigor mortus woud've kicked in for this fool by now.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Vkvkvk on May 18, 2012, 05:07:49 pm
I thought rigor mortus woud've kicked in for this fool by now.

Mortis.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Kelugarn on May 18, 2012, 08:15:14 pm
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Huey2012
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: B3RS3RK on May 18, 2012, 08:17:30 pm
Unban him or feel the rage of the Greek KRAKEN!!  :mad:

How often do i have to tell you Kraken is nordic you Cunt?:D

Anyway, unban him!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 19, 2012, 02:33:17 am
Keep him out of here. His ban was the biggest step towards nerfing cav since Vietnam.

And Vietnam was a long...long time ago.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blackzilla on May 19, 2012, 02:47:28 am
Keep him out of here. His ban was the biggest step towards nerfing cav since Vietnam.

And Vietnam was a long...long time ago.

Joe, I am honored to be your sig. FREE HUEY!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: SeQuel on May 19, 2012, 02:50:02 am
Didn't Huey end up buying another account?

Why not just continue that and not get banned a bunch of times again. Think of it as a punishment (loosing all your looms) for being banned so much.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blackzilla on May 19, 2012, 03:49:10 am
Didn't Huey end up buying another account?

Why not just continue that and not get banned a bunch of times again. Think of it as a punishment (loosing all your looms) for being banned so much.

Sequel. Shut up. AND FREE HUEY!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 19, 2012, 05:19:58 am
Didn't Huey end up buying another account?

Why not just continue that and not get banned a bunch of times again. Think of it as a punishment (loosing all your looms) for being banned so much.
no he can't afford a second cd key lol
He didn't buy one
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: PieParadox on May 19, 2012, 05:27:48 am
Someone get this man a cd key!

And free looms!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: TurmoilTom on May 19, 2012, 05:27:12 pm
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Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 20, 2012, 12:47:09 am
but really unban him
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Darkkarma on May 20, 2012, 09:40:55 pm
if im not banned why is he?

I think the answer is quite obvious at this point.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Lech on May 20, 2012, 11:32:02 pm
There is nothing wrong with racism, yeah it's ideology just as stupid as believing in omnipresent and powerful entity who don't use his power to protect his followers - but at least racism is based on some evidence (but got most things wrongs).

And racists in game just insult other people, just like non-racists.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 21, 2012, 12:03:47 am
free he
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 21, 2012, 01:22:40 am
There is nothing wrong with racism, yeah it's ideology just as stupid as believing in omnipresent and powerful entity who don't use his power to protect his followers - but at least racism is based on some evidence (but got most things wrongs).

And racists in game just insult other people, just like non-racists.

And that's not even the main problem with the idiotic "no racism" rule.

'Racism' as a word has a trillion different meanings which constantly change. In 1700, a racist was one who wanted to kill everyone who didn't look like him. A  racist today might be a guy saying "dem nigs runin muh neighbour" or, if we are to believe the radical definition, anyone who even ACKNOWLEDGES the very concept of race.

So which one to follow? chadz says "common sense" but common sense is not common at all. What if someone finds it "common sense" to ban me for racism if I tell him that different races have different median IQ's? What if someone finds it "common sense" to ban me for racism if I say races even exist? Under a fairly common definition, that would be, in fact, racist!

To add to the whole irony of this completely unnecessary rule, crpg is very well equiped with tools you can use to ignore people you don't like. Both here in the forums AND in-game. Thus if you find what somebody else is saying crude, you can always ignore him. That we support a mentality that you are allowed to silence people that disagree with you is, in my opinion, a terrible thing.

If something needs to be done, that would be make clear how you can ignore people in-game. And of course, remove that silly rule.

Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Smoothrich on May 21, 2012, 02:30:46 am
yep you're right everyone should be allowed to say 'friends are apes lol' on repeat 24/7 on every server nonstop and anyone who complains are politically correct bundle of stickss because this is 21st century gaming
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 21, 2012, 03:11:16 am
yep you're right everyone should be allowed to say 'friends are apes lol' on repeat 24/7 on every server nonstop and anyone who complains are politically correct bundle of stickss because this is 21st century gaming
pretty much, considering we have an ignore fuction.

Why would you care what somebody says when you don't see it? It is like me caring what a guy in upper Brazil says. Makes the exact same impact in my life too.

The ONLY reason you would like to censor that is EXACTLY because you are a "politically correct bundle of sticks" as you very well put it.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: MrShine on May 21, 2012, 04:53:08 am
Less talk about how you're a terrible racist and more talk about freeing Huey!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 21, 2012, 05:36:56 am
Quote
yep you're right everyone should be allowed to say 'friends are apes lol' on repeat 24/7 on every server nonstop and anyone who complains are politically correct bundle of stickss because this is 21st century gaming

I see nothing wrong with this.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: PhantomZero on May 21, 2012, 06:13:18 am
It should really be the first thing you see when you join a server.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Gomer on May 21, 2012, 06:53:09 am
Unban him but give me all his looms
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 21, 2012, 09:23:39 am
It should really be the first thing you see when you join a server.

If you are afraid so much of scarring psychologically someone who has been on the Internet long enough to figure what this "mount and blade" is, then...well...
In any case, a word filter, as far as I know, is pretty easy to implement for the more widely used words. And not just racist words. In the end I see little difference between seeing "you fucking friend!" (which is banned) and "you assfucking bundle of sticks" (which is not banned). We can either ban both to be consistent (and variations) or stop pretending and accept this is the Internet.

Less talk about how you're a terrible racist and more talk about freeing Huey!
MrShine, I am not a racist. I just believe in this little radical idea called "free speech". You might have heard of it, I heard the founders of the US were pretty big funs of it and that it allowed the advancement of initially VERY unpopular ideas like feminism, civil rights movement etc.

I know I am a radical, but it is my deepest belief that free speech isn't there for us to secure our right to talk about the weather.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Vkvkvk on May 21, 2012, 10:09:25 am
I think the problem here is how non-racist are actually the worse one.

Non racist people, due to being overly sensitive or white guilt are actually proliferating racism which is really retarded I must say.

If no one gave a single shit about racial/ethnic slurs/insults, racism wouldn't exist, the sole fact that oversensitive people that are AGAINST racism exists are what makes racism exist, it's ironic but that's how it is.

All in all, stop being oversensitive and proliferating racism by being against it.

Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Kendrick_Lamar on May 21, 2012, 10:24:42 am
 :arrow:
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 21, 2012, 10:28:33 am
:arrow:
:!:
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: MrShine on May 21, 2012, 02:14:10 pm
MrShine, I am not a racist. I just believe in this little radical idea called "free speech". You might have heard of it, I heard the founders of the US were pretty big funs of it and that it allowed the advancement of initially VERY unpopular ideas like feminism, civil rights movement etc.
The founders were also totally ok with people yelling 'FIRE' in a crowded theater in order to protect everyone's freedom of speech.

Hate speech has historically inspired anger & violence.  Discussing how all friends must die (not saying you did;example) in all chat has no relevance to the game, it's going beyond the game and getting at IRL issues & people, which is a bannable offense.

In conclusion, freedom isn't free, and neither is Huey (yet!).
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 21, 2012, 03:04:14 pm
The founders were also totally ok with people yelling 'FIRE' in a crowded theater in order to protect everyone's freedom of speech.
Difference between that (and in real life threats in the game too, for example) is that they are direct calls for violence and/or harm. Saying "dem nigs runin muh neighbourhood" is not.

edit: by the way, the founders were NOT ok with that. Such speech is specifically not covered under the US constitution which is why it is persecutable.

Hate speech has historically inspired anger & violence.  Discussing how all friends must die (not saying you did;example) in all chat has no relevance to the game, it's going beyond the game and getting at IRL issues & people, which is a bannable offense.

Now, we might argue whether allowing racial insults in the game could potentially lead to real life violence in society in the long term or we might simply agree that looking for long term societal prospects is way beyond the scope of the game and game policy which is simply to safeguard that everyone has a good time in the game.

And banning racism in this game does not help to safeguard that. In fact, it is a sad reflection of society.


In conclusion, freedom isn't free, and neither is Huey (yet!).

Freedom isn't free, but banning it to safeguard it is a mistake many people make too often.



AND FREE HUEY!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: MrShine on May 21, 2012, 07:21:41 pm
edit: by the way, the founders were NOT ok with that. Such speech is specifically not covered under the US constitution which is why it is persecutable

I know, I was trying to be sarcastic, but internets.

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Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 22, 2012, 12:46:18 am
I know, I was trying to be sarcastic, but internets.

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:/ yeah, interbutts are hard to communicate irony.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Swaggart on May 22, 2012, 07:29:11 am
Debate about racism and free speech on an online forum for a privately created mod for an obscure game played on private servers?

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Free Huey
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Gomer on May 22, 2012, 08:53:20 am
I think the problem here is how non-racist are actually the worse one.

Non racist people, due to being overly sensitive or white guilt are actually proliferating racism which is really retarded I must say.

If no one gave a single shit about racial/ethnic slurs/insults, racism wouldn't exist, the sole fact that oversensitive people that are AGAINST racism exists are what makes racism exist, it's ironic but that's how it is.

All in all, stop being oversensitive and proliferating racism by being against it.


Under these pretenses it would be raciest if I didn't say friend....
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Sauce on May 22, 2012, 08:57:17 am
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Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Gomer on May 22, 2012, 09:16:45 am
Unban him but give me all his looms
Bump
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Spanish on May 22, 2012, 10:22:01 am
No
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 22, 2012, 10:26:50 am
No
I don't like you any more  :mad:
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: BADPLAYERold on May 22, 2012, 08:12:21 pm
I think the problem here is how non-rapists are actually the worse one.

Non rapists, due to being overly sensitive or misandtrist are actually proliferating rape which is really retarded I must say.

If no one gave a single shit about rape, rape wouldn't exist, the sole fact that oversensitive people that are AGAINST rape exists are what makes rape exist, it's ironic but that's how it is.

All in all, stop being oversensitive and proliferating rape by being against it.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 22, 2012, 09:08:06 pm
Hence the crazycracka name...I know it's easy for me to say that "if people weren't offended by the N word, then racists would stop using it as an insult" but it's the truth. 

My pappy taught me a valuable lesson when I was youngin, he said "young Joseph, if you don't respect the person, why would you care what they have to say about you?" 

He also routinely said "consider the source".  Too bad more people don't do that before getting all emotional.  Who cares what someone says if you have no respect for them.   
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 22, 2012, 09:19:19 pm


Rape is physical attack, racism isn't.

They do not compare.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Vkvkvk on May 22, 2012, 09:30:26 pm
Under these pretenses it would be raciest if I didn't say friend....

Not saying a word or being overly sensitive to that word are both entirely different matters.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 22, 2012, 09:57:29 pm
BUT IF WE CAN'T SAY [MEAN BLACK PERSON WORD], WHY CAN WE STILL SAY bundle of sticks?

WHY DRAW THE LINE THERE?
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 22, 2012, 10:03:05 pm
BUT IF WE CAN'T SAY [MEAN BLACK PERSON WORD], WHY CAN WE STILL SAY bundle of sticks?

WHY DRAW THE LINE THERE?

Pretty much my point. There is no honest distinction. For someone to not look like a complete hypocrite we should either ban both (and anti-feminism, and biggotry and all that) and install an ideological police or we should do what should be there in the first place: common sense and the ability to ignore the others propagated.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Bjord on May 22, 2012, 10:13:48 pm
Hence the crazycracka name...I know it's easy for me to say that "if people weren't offended by the N word, then racists would stop using it as an insult" but it's the truth. 

My pappy taught me a valuable lesson when I was youngin, he said "young Joseph, if you don't respect the person, why would you care what they have to say about you?" 

He also routinely said "consider the source".  Too bad more people don't do that before getting all emotional.  Who cares what someone says if you have no respect for them.

cool story bro

Am I doing it right?
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Momo on May 22, 2012, 10:15:08 pm
Why is six afraid of seven? Because seven ate nine.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 22, 2012, 10:25:27 pm
cool story bro

Am I doing it right?
i hate you so much, I'm going to kill you.  :rolleyes:

Yep, you did it right.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 22, 2012, 10:29:34 pm
i hate you so much, I'm going to kill you.

Yep, you did it right.

that was weak man.

Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Darkkarma on May 22, 2012, 11:22:06 pm
I was joking about the racism thing by the way.  :?
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Huey Newton on May 23, 2012, 02:20:05 am

Live from the other side whatchu hear? A bunch of nonsense all in my ear  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aOjcm0zYUs)
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: BADPLAYERold on May 23, 2012, 03:50:45 am
Rape is physical attack, racism isn't.

They do not compare.

you think people don't get physically attacked over their race?
racism is more than just calling someone a "friend". that is just the start.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: SixThumbs on May 23, 2012, 04:09:13 am
Why is six afraid of seven? Because seven ate nine.

I find this highly offensive.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 23, 2012, 05:00:20 am
you think people don't get physically attacked over their race?
Of course I do.
racism is more than just calling someone a "friend". that is just the start.

Actually, racism is EXACTLY calling someone a friend. What you describe is a hate crime and it is a completely seperate thing.

Much like calling Mexicans inferior isn't racism (it is biggotry) so is race-based attacks not racism (they are hate crimes)

l2terminology.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Svitjodvarg on May 23, 2012, 06:30:01 am
How often do i have to tell you Kraken is nordic you Cunt?:D


Scandinavian*
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Spanish on May 23, 2012, 10:59:29 am
Of course I do.
Actually, racism is EXACTLY calling someone a friend. What you describe is a hate crime and it is a completely seperate thing.

Much like calling Mexicans inferior isn't racism (it is biggotry) so is race-based attacks not racism (they are hate crimes)

l2terminology.

Calling other people inferior regardless of their race is bigotry, calling them inferior because they're Mexican is racism. You're picking out their race as a distinctive trait to separate yourself from them and then saying they're inferior for that sole reason is racism. But you were right about the calling people names like friend is a hate crime but that probably makes you a racist for using spiteful words on a person because they have a different skin color.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 23, 2012, 11:48:00 am
Calling other people inferior regardless of their race is bigotry, calling them inferior because they're Mexican is racism. You're picking out their race as a distinctive trait to separate yourself from them and then saying they're inferior for that sole reason is racism. But you were right about the calling people names like friend is a hate crime but that probably makes you a racist for using spiteful words on a person because they have a different skin color.

okey what?

This whole text is a big bloody mess Spaniard.

Let me explain


first of all


Calling other people inferior regardless of their race is bigotry

Correct! It is biggotry. All racism is biggotry but not all biggotry is racism. For example, saying something bad referring to ALL members of a group (for example: Blacks are idiots!) is biggotry. However, NOT all biggotry is racism. For example, saying "my old friends aren't human" is not racism as gays aren't a race.

This is similar to how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

calling them inferior because they're Mexican is racism. You're picking out their race as a distinctive trait to separate yourself from them and then saying they're inferior for that sole reason is racism.

Calling Mexicans inferior is NOT racism by ANY definition. From the most conservative one to the most liberal one. The fact that you consider it racism shows your utter lack of education on the matter (which, do not misunderstand, I don't blame it on you. Very few people are educated into these matters. One more reason to get rid of the silly, unenforcable rule) mainly because Mexicans are NOT a race much like Americans are not a race. Mexicans have many different racial groups including Indians, Spaniards, Latinos, Germans, Chinese etc. The biggest segment of the population is, in fact, not even HALF the population. It is impossible to be racist when you do not refer to a race and thus what you are looking for here is biggotry which is NOT bannable.

Yet you would have banned for it. In fact, somebody did against Washington (the player, not the actual guy) for NO justifiable reason.

But you were right about the calling people names like friend is a hate crime but that probably makes you a racist for using spiteful words on a person because they have a different skin color.

Hate crimes are caused by racism but racism doesn't cause hate crimes. Racists are no more prone to be violent than any other segment of the population (percentage wise), it is just that their violence is directed at specific segments of society. So instead of gutting random people, they choose to gut people of <race they don't like>.

Also, as I said above, the c-rpg rules are not here (and SHOULD not be here) to secure the long standing prosperity of society. That is the job of the government, not the crpg community. Thus what effects racism might have in real life in completely irrelevant to this discussion.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Spanish on May 23, 2012, 04:26:19 pm
Sigh you get way too technical for no damned reason. I know that Mexicans are people who are citizens of that country and that they can be of any ethnic origin. But I assumed that you were referring to the Latino people that live there in overwhelming numbers and are the target of the statement of being inferior. Because honestly a racist (And one of the definitions is hate or intolerance of other races) are more likely to commit crimes based on these beliefs because they believe their race is superior. That is also a part of the definition look it up.

 Oh and if someone is a racist do you think they will refer to Latino or an African American as such? No they don't call people Mexican and refer to a white family but of the Latinos who dominate as the biggest ethnicity in Mexico

Bigotry has one g in it so stop spelling it wrong, especially if you're going to say I'm uneducated.

And as far as bans go, it really comes down to the admins deciesion whether or not to ban someone on how offensive they're being. So saying "people are stupid" that is t going to generate any offense to another player so will be ignored unlike (this is what I got the other day) "Hey spaniard, you're probably another stupid Mexican who needs to go cut my grass" now that is offensive. One it's greifing another player and secondly its a racist comment because they don't mean a mexican citizen but a person who is latino. Even one comment isn't going to get you banned but more likely muted/ warned to shut up or I'll ban you.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Blackzilla on May 23, 2012, 11:48:25 pm
Come on guys we are all on the same side! Remember why we are here. TO FREE HUEY  NEWTON!
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Momo on May 24, 2012, 12:20:52 am
Release him.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 24, 2012, 03:49:00 am
Sigh you get way too technical for no damned reason. I know that Mexicans are people who are citizens of that country and that they can be of any ethnic origin. But I assumed that you were referring to the Latino people that live there in overwhelming numbers and are the target of the statement of being inferior. Because honestly a racist (And one of the definitions is hate or intolerance of other races) are more likely to commit crimes based on these beliefs because they believe their race is superior. That is also a part of the definition look it up.

 Oh and if someone is a racist do you think they will refer to Latino or an African American as such? No they don't call people Mexican and refer to a white family but of the Latinos who dominate as the biggest ethnicity in Mexico

Bigotry has one g in it so stop spelling it wrong, especially if you're going to say I'm uneducated.

And as far as bans go, it really comes down to the admins deciesion whether or not to ban someone on how offensive they're being. So saying "people are stupid" that is t going to generate any offense to another player so will be ignored unlike (this is what I got the other day) "Hey spaniard, you're probably another stupid Mexican who needs to go cut my grass" now that is offensive. One it's greifing another player and secondly its a racist comment because they don't mean a mexican citizen but a person who is latino. Even one comment isn't going to get you banned but more likely muted/ warned to shut up or I'll ban you.

Yes but why refer to MEXICANS when in fact latinos are the majority in most of middle America? It makes no sense if he was refering to the race. He obviously believes the ETHNICITY is inferior (its culture, its traditions etc). In fact, I believe certain ethnicities are inferior too compared to the more western ethnicities. Does that make me a bigot? Yes. Does that make me a racist? Nope.

As for the mute/warning first, at least on that I agree if it is the way it is implemented. Yet I have seen people outright kicked in the server I was in for words (and banned, of course) with no (visible) prior warning, so I have my doubts.

Better yet would be to live and let live and ignore the people you don't like with the in-game ignore function. It lets YOU mods to actually do stuff that matter like ban people who team kill instead of acting like the thought police.


Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 24, 2012, 08:27:12 am
Calling Mexicans inferior is NOT racism by ANY definition.

okey, this last bit is wrong

"A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people on European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination.

REVERSE RACISM: A term created and used by white people to deny their white privilege. Those in denial use the term reverse racism to refer to hostile behavior by people of color toward whites, and to affirmative action policies, which allegedly give 'preferential treatment' to people of color over whites. In th US, there is no such thing as 'reverse racism'.

A NON-RACIST: A non-term. The term was created by whites to deny responsibility for systematic racism, to maintain an aura of innocence in the face of racial oppression, and to shift responsibility for that oppression from whites to people of color (called "blaming the victim"). Responsibility for perpetuating and legitimizing a racist system rests both on those who actively maintain it, and on those who refuse to challenge it. Silence is consent.

Have you ever heard a well-meaning white person say, ‘I’m not a member of any race except the human race?’ What she usually means by this statement is that she doesn’t want to perpetuate racial categories by acknowledging that she is white. This is an evasion of responsibility for her participation in a system based on supremacy for white people."

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Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: LordBerenger on May 24, 2012, 08:32:37 am
Everyone on this forum are racist.

End of discussions.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Kafein on May 24, 2012, 08:57:33 am
Nobody cares whether there are races or not. We are all sentient and that is what it's all about. Even if all asians where actually aliens and all semites evolved from the ancestors of dolphins instead of primates, there would be no reason to consider them inferior.
Title: Re: I'm done with finals.
Post by: Arathian on May 24, 2012, 09:15:13 am
Nobody cares whether there are races or not. We are all sentient and that is what it's all about. Even if all asians where actually aliens and all semites evolved from the ancestors of dolphins instead of primates, there would be no reason to consider them inferior.

You are right, nobody argues that.

I simply argue that banning speech is bad.