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Title: Riding Skill
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 16, 2012, 06:07:43 am
Like power strike, throw, and draw the "riding" skill increases your item's stats if your skill level is beyond the required one listed.

Is there a cap on how much of a bonus you get for extra riding skill? With power draw you only get a bonus for up to 4 levels above the PD requirement for that bow. Are horses/riding like that, or is it similar to power strike where you can boost it as high as you can level the skill?

What are the bonuses for extra levels of riding? I know it boosts speed, but how much do you get per level? Are other stats are raised as well?
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 16, 2012, 08:16:29 am
It continues giving bonuses like power strike ad infinitum. There is no cap.


Every point of Riding increases horse speed and maneuverability.
Speed increases speed (obviously) and going faster increases charge damage.
maneuverability is faster turn rate AND acceleration.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Torben on May 16, 2012, 08:44:04 am
however,  the speed increase on a +3 courser from 6 to 8 riding is marginal at most and does not in any way make a difference in game. the maneuver buff is noticable but not worth sacrificing any other thing for it
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: _Tak_ on May 16, 2012, 10:15:25 am
I have very high riding and I really like it, the dev has nerf riding thats why i go for higher riding, it feels good, but it doesn't feels good when you get 1 shot by an arbalester
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cup1d on May 16, 2012, 11:19:25 am
I have very high riding and I really like it, the dev has nerf riding thats why i go for higher riding, it feels good, but it doesn't feels good when you get 1 shot by an arbalester

Riding is not nerfed, but buffed heavily. In old version of crpg was impossible to use half of horses if you do not have 24agi and 4 in riding. And even if you had 24-30 agi, it was impossible to have 7riding and 7ps simultaneously. In short - we have almost ideal conditions for noob\average and good horseman. (yes, I remember that lance ark was gimped, but I still see hundres of decent cav with good effectivity)
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Kafein on May 16, 2012, 11:44:18 am
Riding is not nerfed, but buffed heavily. In old version of crpg was impossible to use half of horses if you do not have 24agi and 4 in riding. And even if you had 24-30 agi, it was impossible to have 7riding and 7ps simultaneously. In short - we have almost ideal conditions for noob\average and good horseman. (yes, I remember that lance ark was gimped, but I still see hundres of decent cav with good effectivity)

The effectiveness of each riding skill point was nerfed. It's quite logical since now we have almost double the amount of riding skill points we had before for the same horses.

Also, the speed and maneuver of all horses got nerfed more recently.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cup1d on May 16, 2012, 12:08:25 pm
The effectiveness of each riding skill point was nerfed

How? Old statistics and current statistics please.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 16, 2012, 03:52:11 pm
Thanks for the reply. I noticed with a steppe horse and 5 riding I was a little slower than most people riding a courser but could also turn/accelerate very quickly.

Can't wait to try out a build next gen with 7 or 8 riding!
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: _Tak_ on May 16, 2012, 06:02:45 pm
Riding is not nerfed, but buffed heavily.

Wrong, have you ever play native? In native if  i have 10 riding i will be flying on a pony, in CRPG 10 riding is like 6 riding in native.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cup1d on May 16, 2012, 07:39:15 pm
Wrong, have you ever play native? In native if  i have 10 riding i will be flying on a pony, in CRPG 10 riding is like 6 riding in native.

You can't have 10 riding in native multiplayer. And I'm not interested how you flying on a pony against bots in native singleplayer.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: _Tak_ on May 16, 2012, 08:22:18 pm
You can't have 10 riding in native multiplayer. And I'm not interested how you flying on a pony against bots in native singleplayer.

you can, edit server's file , host a server there you go
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Kafein on May 17, 2012, 12:12:54 am
How? Old statistics and current statistics please.

Well I don't have any statistics but I do remember the balance team said they nerfed the effect of the riding skill when they changed the riding requirements and the agi requirement of the skill.

Anyway, it's only the combination of that and the horse stats that actually matters.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cup1d on May 17, 2012, 02:03:13 pm
Well I don't have any statistics but I do remember the balance team said they nerfed the effect of the riding skill when they changed the riding requirements and the agi requirement of the skill.

Anyway, it's only the combination of that and the horse stats that actually matters.

No, not only this combination matters, because today you can have 30 level build with 5 riding (for destrier or armored horse) 3 shields (and there is not bad shields) and 9ps (enough to onehit almost anything including horses with speed bonus).
Or just jet horseman with arabian whorse and 7ps.

I call this huge hole in balance.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Casimir on May 17, 2012, 02:40:32 pm
but when their horse dies or they are playing on certain town maps, they have 0 ath and are next to worthless in melee.  So its balanced out...
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Kafein on May 17, 2012, 02:50:34 pm
No, not only this combination matters, because today you can have 30 level build with 5 riding (for destrier or armored horse) 3 shields (and there is not bad shields) and 9ps (enough to onehit almost anything including horses with speed bonus).

So ?

Or just jet horseman with arabian whorse and 7ps.

I call this huge hole in balance.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.



An archer can have 4 PD, 9ATH, 9WM and still kill people with headshots and speedbonus, while being impossible to kill for 2/3 of the playerbase. (this is Meow's build btw)

I call this huge hole in balance.
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Cup1d on May 17, 2012, 03:48:16 pm
So ?

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
An archer can have 4 PD, 9ATH, 9WM and still kill people with headshots and speedbonus, while being impossible to kill for 2/3 of the playerbase. (this is Meow's build btw)
I call this huge hole in balance.

1. Meow doesn't have 1\1 kd, with +3bow and +3 arrow. It's troll build nothing more.
2. Every archer\xbowman\thrower\cavalry\fast infantry can kill Meow. Why did you suggest this as an example?
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: _Tak_ on May 17, 2012, 04:11:41 pm
2. Every archer\xbowman\thrower\cavalry\fast infantry can kill Meow. Why did you suggest this as an example?

Disagree, I try to kill Meow for a few times but was forced to back off because his shoot very accurate and if i get any closer i can die due to speed bonus

Ask meow he know
Title: Re: Riding Skill
Post by: Gomer on May 20, 2012, 06:41:25 am
Practice lancing simulator http://armorgames.com/play/12075/the-lance