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Title: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 02:49:36 pm
According to Frank The Tank you removed weapon racks in the patch, what the fuck went through your heads? Engineering was one of the funner parts of cRPG, and once it's finally recognized as a somewhat playstyle you fuckers decide to kill it!?

This is so fucking retarded I can't even find the words to describe it...
...fuck you devs.
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Post by: Herkkutatti on May 04, 2012, 02:50:21 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square. (like after ladders got removed)
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 02:52:39 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square. (like after ladders got removed)
Yep...
10k that next patch is gonna enforce you to either be a kuyak wearing Danish Greatsword my old friend, a running archer, or a spawn-couching lancer.
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Post by: Herkkutatti on May 04, 2012, 02:57:54 pm
Devs have removed everything from cRPG siege whats makes it better than native siege.
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Post by: Prinz_Karl on May 04, 2012, 02:57:57 pm
Yeah why the fuck?

I just started playing as engineer 1 week ago... it was fucking fun.

lol if it's because of me...
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Post by: bosco on May 04, 2012, 02:59:45 pm
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Post by: Phazey on May 04, 2012, 03:11:20 pm
It was being exploited too much. Siege equipment spam to block entrances and such...

Untill the devs get around to restricting the amount of siege equipment you can spawn, it's turned off.

I'm not happy about it either, but if you must be angry at someone, be angry at the twats using weapon racks to break the game.  :mad:
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Post by: polkafranzi on May 04, 2012, 03:16:19 pm
It was being exploited too much. Siege equipment spam to block entrances and such...

Untill the devs get around to restricting the amount of siege equipment you can spawn, it's turned off.

I'm not happy about it either, but if you must be angry at someone, be angry at the twats using weapon racks to break the game.  :mad:

Dunno if many people know him, but there's this one epic guy called Goplomah, who is pro at all things siege construction. No-one gave a flying fuck that he had 30 throwing lances, just applause all round, now that's gone :((
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Post by: Phazey on May 04, 2012, 03:18:14 pm
Dunno if many people know him, but there's this one epic guy called Goplomah, who is pro at all things siege construction. No-one gave a flying fuck that he had 30 throwing lances, just applause all round, now that's gone :((

Yah, i get that. It sucks. I also liked weapon racks. They offer some extra depth and variation to the game and it's sad that that's gone.

You got my +1 for getting weapon racks back a.s.a.p.
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 03:21:21 pm
It was being exploited too much. Siege equipment spam to block entrances and such...

Untill the devs get around to restricting the amount of siege equipment you can spawn, it's turned off.

I'm not happy about it either, but if you must be angry at someone, be angry at the twats using weapon racks to break the game.  :mad:
Well, horses can be exploited to delay, let's remove them, if a 13 ath person is the last one alive he might run forever, so lets disable running all together and just have people spawn in a big blob, I mean there totally isn't a ban forum or ban polls to stop insane spawning of CS sites...  :rolleyes:
This shit is fucking retarded...
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Post by: Leshma on May 04, 2012, 03:22:53 pm
Unlimited throwing weapons... no wonder its removed.
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Post by: Phazey on May 04, 2012, 03:32:34 pm
Weapon racks would be fine if there was a limit (and cost!) to it's use. Right now there isn't.

Let's turn this whine thread into something more productive. Instead of raging, try asking the devs nicely to make putting back updated weapon rack mechanics back into cRPG. Ask them to make it a priority and get more people to concur on that.

I like weapon racks and i want em back.
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 03:34:20 pm
Weapon racks would be fine if there was a limit (and cost!) to it's use. Right now there isn't.

Let's turn this whine thread into something more productive. Instead of raging, try asking the devs nicely to make putting back updated weapon rack mechanics back into cRPG.
If there was a limit all it'd do would be forcing me to spawn a new weaponrack every three spawns, the insanely huge upkeep on the CS site seems like plenty of cost to me...
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Post by: Phazey on May 04, 2012, 04:03:03 pm
If there was a limit all it'd do would be forcing me to spawn a new weapon rack every three spawns

Good luck with that.  :wink: (did you try that recently?)  :P
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: OpenPalm on May 04, 2012, 04:28:57 pm
The whole point of a weapons rack is that it allows you to change your outfit for free.  You need 5 con mats to build it, so you need 2 people, one with a c-site and 1 con mat, and one with 4 con mats.  It takes time and good positioning to get one up in a place where enemies won't just kill it immediately.  Once it's built, you can build everything else you need for engineering, or have infinite throwing weapons.  If you have any looms, you can spawn those and drop them for allies.  If I recall correctly, they die pretty quick to anything, 2-3 hits at the most.  Anyone who blocked any kind of doorway with a weapons rack is wasting time, as a c-site has more hp, so you spent 5 con mats and a c-site on a weaker wall.  Also, they are very low to the ground and easy to jump over, completely negating any kind of use as a wall.

I think whoever removed weapons racks has no idea what they do...
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Meow on May 04, 2012, 04:45:02 pm
According to Frank The Tank you removed weapon racks in the patch, what the fuck went through your heads? Engineering was one of the funner parts of cRPG, and once it's finally recognized as a somewhat playstyle you fuckers decide to kill it!?

This is so fucking retarded I can't even find the words to describe it...
...fuck you devs.

And you think because you go into nerd rage we will patch it back in?
Or are you just mad and wanna vent a bit?

Obviously the people who exploited it like crazy forced the removal and until there is a good solution the stuff won't be back.
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: OpenPalm on May 04, 2012, 04:47:10 pm
How were weapons racks exploited? 
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 04:58:33 pm
And you think because you go into nerd rage we will patch it back in?
Or are you just mad and wanna vent a bit?

Obviously the people who exploited it like crazy forced the removal and until there is a good solution the stuff won't be back.
50/50
How were they exploited? if you're talking about blocking doors 'n' shit then just add to rules that CS shit spawned by weapon rack isn't allowed to block shit... (which is already in the rules if I recall)
They aren't more exploitable than coursers with no ranged players.
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Post by: Brrrak on May 04, 2012, 08:40:30 pm
Is it at all possible to make c-sites and weapons racks something you can pass through?
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Post by: Rainbow on May 04, 2012, 08:46:00 pm
I knew that the big 'ol nerf was coming.  As soon as it starts to catch on and too many people begin exploiting it needs to be taken out.  I believe I made a post about this a while ago when it was just starting to get popular.  I said something along the lines of it starting out legit and slowly the transition to exploit will begin to emerge.  I was correct.  Remove siege from game forever and ever and ever!  If you are looking for the guilty party you need but look in the mirror.
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Post by: BlindGuy on May 04, 2012, 08:58:20 pm
It MIGHT be coinidence but Yurnero_the_Nailsgifta became Yurnero_the_Magicholescrafta.

The 2nd is a boring longbowman, dime a dozen.

The 1st was...well, awesome! He would make himself a weapon rack in any defensible spot near the flag, reinforce it with a few CS to stop ppl from getting to him while he rearmed, and then would throw endless Throwing Lances. Ive been on this guy's team, and against him, and both ways it was fun, it was different, and wasnt gamebreaking, just game enhancing.

BUT unfortunatly, just like everything from 13 shieldskill steelbucklers to ppl blocking doorways with endless CS spam, if there IS a way to abuse the mechanics, ppl WILL abuse the mechanics, for the same reason you see 100,000 kuyaks with GS: Fun, playing, skill, amusement, nothing is as important as GRINDING OUT THE x5 REGUARDLESS OF WHO I HURT. This problem is kinda exhasperated by things such as the multiplier system, there being an obvious BEST price/effectiveness set of items, and the like.
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 09:06:38 pm
It MIGHT be coinidence but Yurnero_the_Nailsgifta became Yurnero_the_Magicholescrafta.

The 2nd is a boring longbowman, dime a dozen.

The 1st was...well, awesome! He would make himself a weapon rack in any defensible spot near the flag, reinforce it with a few CS to stop ppl from getting to him while he rearmed, and then would throw endless Throwing Lances. Ive been on this guy's team, and against him, and both ways it was fun, it was different, and wasnt gamebreaking, just game enhancing.

BUT unfortunatly, just like everything from 13 shieldskill steelbucklers to ppl blocking doorways with endless CS spam, if there IS a way to abuse the mechanics, ppl WILL abuse the mechanics, for the same reason you see 100,000 kuyaks with GS: Fun, playing, skill, amusement, nothing is as important as GRINDING OUT THE x5 REGUARDLESS OF WHO I HURT. This problem is kinda exhasperated by things such as the multiplier system, there being an obvious BEST price/effectiveness set of items, and the like.
Played with him once, we set up a few weapon racks at strategic spots, then used them to throw lances at people, haven't seen him as a longbowman, this shit is sad.  :cry:
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Post by: BlindGuy on May 04, 2012, 09:12:18 pm
Maybe its an alt...I dunno, just know I havent seen him in a while, and there cant be THAT many Yurnero_the_(crazyname)'s out there, can there?
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Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 04, 2012, 09:19:39 pm
Screw it, I'm still going to be a shielding thrower cav next gen.
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 04, 2012, 09:25:57 pm
Screw it, I'm still going to be a shielding thrower cav next gen.
Thrower cav ftw!
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 05, 2012, 12:52:42 am
Weapon racks would be fine if there was a limit (and cost!) to it's use. Right now there isn't.

Let's turn this whine thread into something more productive. Instead of raging, try asking the devs nicely to make putting back updated weapon rack mechanics back into cRPG. Ask them to make it a priority and get more people to concur on that.

I like weapon racks and i want em back.

So the 2.6k I pay to build them isn't a cost? Why not just limit them to 4 spawns like siege shields?

If people breaking the rules and jamming up entrances constantly are the problem why not ENFORCE THE RULES instead of just shutting me out of the game?

This decision wasn't thought through, the better option was to leave it as it was and enforce a code of conduct until there was a real fix for the forward spawns and a deployment limit for the weapons racks (which I'm pretty sure there is because I've only ever been able to build 4, why not have 3 csites in action at once as the max that way you have to complete what your building first).

I was asked yesterday, how is that your "class" when I said engineering is my class and it has now finally been removed. I'll explain.

I play on NA with 280 ping, the AUS community is dead there is no better server. I play to support my friends and clan mates in strat, after going through every class (again already did this on the AUS server) on NA I found one class that I could play, engineer. The ping doesn't matter at all if I'm running about sorting out ammo and healing tents for the black barred rubbed. With the ping I can half do throwing but it's most impossible if they don't stand still or run in a dead straight line. I see everything WAY after its happened so its just a massive shit.

What I'm saying is this, you've removed the last thing I could do from the game. What do I do now?

Oh and as a final kick in the balls, I logged in found my shit didn't work, ran around corner, got attacked, picked up a sword and then got ATHW... FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING PILE OF SHIT.
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Post by: Dexxtaa on May 05, 2012, 02:07:41 am
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+1 for Sonic reference.

Also, OP, great way to get stuff you want; be really rude and a complete butthead about it. gg
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2012, 02:21:33 am
Remove siege from game forever and ever and ever!
Remove rainbow from the game forever and ever and ever! Seriously, yet to read one post from you that wasn't "I am this thing, you must not be allowed to be that thing."
Title: Re: The fuck is wrong with you!?
Post by: Rainbow on May 05, 2012, 02:24:30 am
Remove rainbow from the game forever and ever and ever! Seriously, yet to read one post from you that wasn't "I am this thing, you must not be allowed to be that thing."

You're watched and i'm not.  nanananana boo boo
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2012, 02:34:54 am
You're watched and i'm not.  nanananana boo boo
Got a problem retard? Like I give a fuck, watched doesn't mean muted, and as long as I'm only watched I don't give a fuck, and once I'm muted I can still communicate 100% effeciently through my sig, so go fuck a horse or somethin'.
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Post by: Christo on May 05, 2012, 02:39:53 am
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Post by: Rainbow on May 05, 2012, 02:45:54 am
lol.  You're funny.  You forget that i'm loved and you aren't.  nananana boo boo.  Stick your head in doo doo.
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Post by: Kafein on May 05, 2012, 03:25:28 am
What was it again Christo ? Daily dev-fixing-something drama thread ?
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 05, 2012, 04:41:20 am
What was it again Christo ? Daily dev-fixing-something drama thread ?

Preeety mooch.

Lets all get drunk and eat barritos until this round of "fixing" is over.

Love the game, love the devs but this one just feels like FUBAR. Not so much as a fix as a "I'll fix it later now to lock it in the basement and hose it down."

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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2012, 05:22:22 am
lol.  You're funny.  You forget that i'm loved and you aren't.  nananana boo boo.  Stick your head in doo doo.
Bullshit, go rape a squirrel or some shit no one loves you.
Also, you retard pony fucking piece of shit I'm Zlisch_KafeinsBestBitch, I get payed for sex, you have to pay for it (or rape a poor defenseless animal)...
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 05, 2012, 05:26:33 am
no one loves you.

I love him =P
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 05, 2012, 05:27:41 am
I love him =P
Lies.
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Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 05, 2012, 05:44:55 am
What did he get muted for?
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 05, 2012, 05:58:44 am
I believe it was the above animal related comment.

Also can I haz this backs noa?

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Post by: bosco on May 05, 2012, 09:30:42 am
Bullshit, go rape a squirrel or some shit no one loves you.
Also, you retard pony fucking piece of shit I'm Zlisch_KafeinsBestBitch, I get payed for sex, you have to pay for it (or rape a poor defenseless animal)...

Hahaha, burn  :mrgreen:
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Post by: STOPHammerTime on May 05, 2012, 02:55:40 pm
aww who muted them? The unholy amount of nerd rage in this thread has kept me amused, in the lengthy amount of time I spend dead.

I demand un-mutes, Unleash the raaaaage!