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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Banzai!!! on April 20, 2012, 04:45:22 pm

Title: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Banzai!!! on April 20, 2012, 04:45:22 pm
When I first joined CRPG there were many great individual warriors who were able to simply ROFL Stomp Byzantium and would not allow them to have x5.

I speak of clans such as:
Templars
Nords
BashiBazouks

And a few others all had individuals who were able to rack up allot of kills on the EU battle server and stop Byzantium from getting these x5 streaks.

But now these people are gone (or I don't see them on the battle server anymore) and now Byzantium is terrorizing the server killing hundreds of us randoms and peasants and it has come to the point where it is usually if you have Byzantium on your side you are guaranteed to win.

It is no surpise that they can afford the best equipment and must be making 100,000 + gold a month with the constant x5 they get.

The smart of us peasants choose to pick the Byzantium banner and reep the rewards of absolute Byzantium domination...

I ask now that great skilled people come back to EU1 battle and end the Byzantium menace which has been going on for too long!!!
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on April 20, 2012, 04:48:02 pm
lol
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Teeth on April 20, 2012, 04:52:55 pm
There is GK. There is a lot of random cav that don't like playing against them and pick their banner. That combined with the good cav they bring to the table themselves almost always gives them a huge cav advantage. Which has worked pretty well in beating us and making us GTX. They seem to get a ranged advantage aswell most of the time for some raisins. Ofcourse one might wonder if GK dominance is better than Byzantium dominance.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Banzai!!! on April 20, 2012, 05:04:18 pm
Than you teeth I will try to make a poll on which is the worst to play against.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on April 20, 2012, 05:05:09 pm
we get 100 k a month? geez, where's my share guys?
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on April 20, 2012, 05:06:03 pm
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Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Leshma on April 20, 2012, 05:21:49 pm
People need to learn to down block and to learn how long spear feints work and everything will be fine.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Nessaj on April 20, 2012, 05:31:56 pm
CBA getting team-switched away from my clan and having to fight them 24/7.

Fix absolute banner balance and you'll see people caring, until then who ever mass recruits and have a lot of cav wins the battle servers.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: SirProto on April 20, 2012, 05:45:07 pm
Huzzah for the peasant masses  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: MrExxc on April 20, 2012, 05:56:34 pm
People need to learn to down block and to learn how long spear feints work and everything will be fine.

Didn't you pick up our banner? l4l
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on April 20, 2012, 06:00:22 pm
CBA getting team-switched away from my clan and having to fight them 24/7.

Fix absolute banner balance and you'll see people caring, until then who ever mass recruits and have a lot of cav wins the battle servers.

mass recruit?  :shock:  :lol:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Reddy on April 20, 2012, 06:06:38 pm
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The era of the Byzantium tyranny will run long and hard for many years to come, no clan can stop us, not then, NOT NOW! Your so called 'Great Warriors' will quit again after they come back, since they will realise we can't be stopped.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Leshma on April 20, 2012, 06:07:07 pm
Didn't you pick up our banner? l4l

For like half an hour. Currently I'm rolling some HA banner (black HA on white background).

And I'll pick any banner I want. Deal with it! 8-)
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Idzo on April 20, 2012, 06:11:44 pm
Rofl...
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Lobster on April 20, 2012, 06:15:00 pm
People need to learn to down block and to learn how long spear feints work and everything will be fine.


But.....but.....you still get owned....:P
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Leshma on April 20, 2012, 06:17:39 pm
I made the decision, from now on I'm using Byz banner only. It fits me so well, that inner archer inside me (I'm using native banner pack, not that buggy shit packs).
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Teeth on April 20, 2012, 06:19:59 pm
until then who ever mass recruits and have a lot of cav wins the battle servers.
Which does not describe Byzantium in any way.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Bulzur on April 20, 2012, 06:26:48 pm
I find it worse facing GK than Byzantium. No fun being couched and trampled to death, no matter your skill, no chance. Whereas you can still outrun some Byzantium, and make them split.

But i admit i still have slightly more pleasure killing some Byzantium than some good GK, reason being... it's harder, so more rewarding.

Also, Nords and Bashibazouks are still there, even if fewer in number. I remember the 5 Bashibazouks 2h tanks with xbows, who saved the day.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Mlekce on April 20, 2012, 06:29:35 pm
i say remove banner balance and make lvl or class balance. I hate when i enter in Eu1 and my team have 5 cav,but other have 20 because GK are in server.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: moorane on April 20, 2012, 06:29:59 pm
I find it worse facing GK than Byzantium. No fun being couched and trampled to death, no matter your skill, no chance. Whereas you can still outrun some Byzantium, and make them split.

But i admit i still have slightly more pleasure killing some Byzantium than some good GK, reason being... it's harder, so more rewarding.

Also, Nords and Bashibazouks are still there, even if fewer in number. I remember the 5 Bashibazouks 2h tanks with xbows, who saved the day.

We should just clone ujuki and cicero - everything would be fine! ;)
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: SirProto on April 20, 2012, 06:49:45 pm
Rofl...

Save us Bandits!
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: MadeForFighting on April 20, 2012, 07:10:33 pm
Hahaha I love this topic.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on April 20, 2012, 07:29:33 pm
Save us Bandits!

Lol, we dont practice teamwork or have trainings of any kind, Gnjus ocasionaly rallies the scum and thats it. Ask byz how our last "scrim" ended up. One has to wonder how we managed to loose with great classes such as: naked thrower, horse ccossbowman without a horse and tincan HA without a bow hahahaha
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: //saxon on April 20, 2012, 07:36:18 pm
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The era of the Byzantium tyranny will run long we can't be stopped.
i beg to differ on that. to bad most nords play after 12. we could give you pro's a good fight.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: MadeForFighting on April 20, 2012, 07:38:57 pm
A clanbattle with Nords would be cool.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: //saxon on April 20, 2012, 07:41:05 pm
we could organised one like i said it might have to be past 12.  heheheheh.....
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: SirProto on April 20, 2012, 08:08:04 pm
One has to wonder how we managed to loose with great classes such as: naked thrower, horse ccossbowman without a horse and tincan HA without a bow hahahaha

best classes i've heard of  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: MrExxc on April 20, 2012, 08:41:12 pm
Remove banner balance and the Mod is d3ad tbh. All we need is clan groups so not every random guy would pick up our banner.

We're strong atm cuz no other clan is really active on EU1 except for GK, but we're slowly starting to manage their cav superiority. If you wanna get saved, join a clan and promote teamplay! Promote TEAMPLAY
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: brianr1989 on April 20, 2012, 09:11:42 pm
Mass recruiting makes me giggle :) I believe I was the last member to join and that was 3 months ago or something?
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Leshma on April 20, 2012, 09:11:54 pm
Don't ever remove banner balance, I enjoy this x5 too much :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Ujin on April 20, 2012, 10:01:00 pm



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Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Mlekce on April 20, 2012, 10:36:13 pm
don't go in EU1 from 19h-22h and no problem for you. Best time to play is after 23h,it is under 100 players in server,less cav,and less clan ppl.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Kafein on April 21, 2012, 12:25:35 am
Both GK and Byzantium are owned by randomers from time to time.

And I think it's pretty even when it's one clan vs the other. On cav friendly maps the GK rape the randomer part of the Byzantium team and they lose due to being outnumbered, on cav unfriendly maps GK die/RQ.

For like half an hour. Currently I'm rolling some HA banner (black HA on white background).

And I'll pick any banner I want. Deal with it! 8-)

Me too.


I got the yellow banner with a red horse that virtually nobody uses and that's maybe the reason I'm being teamswitched all the time. I remember I used that banner when I started cRPG. Memories :D
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: [ptx] on April 21, 2012, 01:10:28 am
So, Byzantium, how much did you pay this guy? :lol:
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: supy0 on April 21, 2012, 03:26:36 am
So, Byzantium, how much did you pay this guy? :lol:

I sucked him off.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Christo on April 21, 2012, 03:42:45 am
My nickname is Christo and what is this
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 21, 2012, 04:19:27 am
Just join a clan. Its more fun anyway.

I suppose one of the alt server could be called PubStarEU1/PubStarNA1 and have random balance.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Ujin on April 21, 2012, 10:43:35 am
Both GK and Byzantium are owned by randomers from time to time.

And I think it's pretty even when it's one clan vs the other. On cav friendly maps the GK rape the randomer part of the Byzantium team and they lose due to being outnumbered, on cav unfriendly maps GK die/RQ.

Me too.


I got the yellow banner with a red horse that virtually nobody uses and that's maybe the reason I'm being teamswitched all the time. I remember I used that banner when I started cRPG. Memories :D
there's also the fact that our banner is the most (ab)used one on public servers, so as a result clan members keep getting in separate teams thanks to randomers feeding on our banner :D.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Byrdi on April 21, 2012, 10:45:03 am
Many of us Templars don't go to EU_1, since is gay and full of gang.

Also go to EU_4 if you dont want banner balance.

I actually thought that Byzantium had died out :D, but they are obviously only on EU_1 (where I never am). So if you want to avoid them just go to another server....
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Christo on April 21, 2012, 10:46:34 am
Banner hopping oppurtunists are the plague of this community. (Among many other things)

There has to be a change, as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Leshma on April 21, 2012, 11:18:45 am
Just join a clan. Its more fun anyway.

No, it's not.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Kafein on April 21, 2012, 12:34:00 pm
there's also the fact that our banner is the most (ab)used one on public servers, so as a result clan members keep getting in separate teams thanks to randomers feeding on our banner :D.

Talk to GO/T/STR/DRZ about it I'm sure they'll be on your side.


It's sort of nice to have that counterbalancing effect that randomers will join successful banners, which will reduce how successfull that banner is. Banner balance wasn't meant for clans to rock x5 all day long. It was so that clan people could play together. And that shouldn't be done at the expense of balance towards randomers.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on April 21, 2012, 04:06:46 pm
No, it's not.

If you just have minimal social skills its always more fun to play together with other people than alone.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Angantyr on April 21, 2012, 04:27:25 pm
I will just mention that Native clans have played WB for years without clan balance of any kind and that in Native it has always been considered really rude for a clan to destroy server balance by trying to all log into the same team, to the point where clanners choose themselves to divide their forces somewhat equally on the teams; you still get to play with your team mates and you also get to fight them, just like in clan training.

And if there's below a handful on a team it's generally not considered 'clan stacking' and as such it is not that clan members never get to play together. Not saying it's necessarily better only that it's worth being mindful that what some here take for given is viewed as clear obstruction to server balance by another major part of the WB community. And the same goes for some mods, for example Vikingr, which with its smaller playerbase suffers even more when a few organized players decide to work together over voice comms. Also, on Native servers that sees a lot of clan activity clans usually get their chance to team stack when there are other clans playing on the opposite team. When it is fair.

Anyone can understand clan members wants to fight together but with the Native system it is still entirely possible (even if clans sometimes have to split up or just give the losing team a clan player or two, often all it takes to resume some semblence of team balance) and you won't see clans turning servers into their own private playgrounds.

Because the truth is, it takes no particular great effort or skillpool to absolutely destroy randomers with a little teamwork.


If nothing else, and it seems many in this community are very attached to clan stacking, it would definitely help server balance if clan banners were made exclusive so that not every nåb or lone wolf tired of getting steamrolled has the option of banner whoring.
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Post by: Teeth on April 21, 2012, 05:45:29 pm
And the same goes for some mods, for example Vikingr, which with its smaller playerbase suffers even more when a few organized players decide to work together over voice comms.
Isn't that the entire point? The team that uses teamwork and strategy wins. If that is not a fair way of winning then what is? Seems like you think that winning should be entirely random if winning through strategy, teamwork or having better players is considered unfair.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Vibe on April 21, 2012, 06:07:18 pm
this thread is balls
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Post by: Renay on April 21, 2012, 06:09:29 pm
If you just have minimal social skills its always more fun to play together with other people than alone.

But Leshma does not have social skills.
Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Angantyr on April 21, 2012, 06:28:59 pm
@Teeth,

Of course, winning through strategy, teamwork or having better players is how it should be (and usually is, banner balance or not), but a chance for these factors to come into play should not only be present in one team (actually introducing the random factor of either getting switched to the clanstacking team and gain multi or to the pub team and lose multi) which is why for example Native clans (or 22nd in server 4) have no problems letting some members equalize the odds a bit. I'm talking serious clanstacking against pubs here of course, not just a few friends doing team work.

I'm not speaking against the current system (of which I have some ambivalence) just giving some food for thought as to how clanstacking is perceived in Native and that the current system will always favour people in big, active clans, which with arguments going both ways may or may not be a bad thing.

In the end it may also be about sportsmanship, if you find it fun to be able to consistently steamroll a lot of people who for some reason or another is not in a clan. In my own opinion, the best battles I've had have been the close ones and not the slaughterhouses.

As there will always exist a logical disparity between clan players and random scrubs perhaps the best/most democratic solution (XP and gold gain at stake) would be one that doesn't favour one group too much over the other?

But anyway, as long as there's plenty of different active clans this doesn't become a problem unless they are put on the same teams.


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Title: Re: Oh Great Warriors of CRPG come forth once more and end this Byzantium Tyranny!!!
Post by: Frankysan on April 21, 2012, 06:44:50 pm
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