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Title: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 02:40:11 am
After a few attempts at different styles, I am settled on using  a 1 hander and a shield. It's the only way I feel like I'm viable at my current shitty level of skill. I would also like to use throwing weapons to mix it up. Can I spare enough points to make it effective, without gimping my 1 handed attacks? I don't wanna be one shotting people or anything, but I'd like it to make people go "aaargh" and bleed a little  :wink:

What would be a good build to shoot for?
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Zanze on April 14, 2012, 02:50:04 am
Fear the Viking.

HUSKARL:  A well rounded foot soldier utilizing his namesake shield
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 64

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 4
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 123
Throwing: 98
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 02:58:39 am
I read something about armor and multiplying the actual weight value when you add it up, to arrive at a sum you don't want to go over, or it reduces your throwing efficacy. I didn't really understand it.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Digglez on April 14, 2012, 04:53:58 am
I read something about armor and multiplying the actual weight value when you add it up, to arrive at a sum you don't want to go over, or it reduces your throwing efficacy. I didn't really understand it.

glove weight is x8, helm is x6.  wear medium body armor (no more than 15lb), leather gloves in a 30-45 armor helm and you'll do ok.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 05:00:31 am
glove weight is x8, helm is x6.  wear medium body armor (no more than 15lb), leather gloves in a 30-45 armor helm and you'll do ok.

So I can't keep wearing my mail gauntlets?

I have roman helmet 1.8, heraldic mail 11.1, mail chausses 1.7 and those gauntlets .5. I am using a plain board shield with a weight of 6 if that matters.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: RibaldRon on April 14, 2012, 05:26:28 am
As a new player I would highly recommend you do not try to make these hybrid builds.

I tried to use PD on my first generation because I was a clueless noob and it was a mistake.  I was awful with the bow, and I was not as strong in melee as I could have been as a result.

Not to mention, you will spend more money by having the throwing weapons on your person.


Just go for a straight up 1H/shield character, with balanced stats, so you will have a better time learning the basics.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 05:28:41 am
Morph gave me a shit ton of money and I'm richer than Jesus himself...not worried about the bit of upkeep on my 2 throwing weapons.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Digglez on April 14, 2012, 06:15:25 am
So I can't keep wearing my mail gauntlets?

I have roman helmet 1.8, heraldic mail 11.1, mail chausses 1.7 and those gauntlets .5. I am using a plain board shield with a weight of 6 if that matters.

i'm too lazy to do the math and but you'll be losing a fair amount of WPF for the extra weight, and for what....2 or 3 more armor? 
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Uumdi on April 14, 2012, 08:09:33 am
Yeah unless you've got loomed gloves, don't fret.  Kudos for trying a hybrid build.  You're only kind of gimping yourself, but with a 21/15 build you'll do fine.  Instead of the huscarl shield as suggested use maybe a heavy round, or something 1 slot that you like the style of, only cuz its 1 slot, but you're probably already doing so.

War darts, axes, or javelins are probably your best bet with two stacks to utilize.  Darts have a high accuracy and ammo count and actually still do damage, so are probably your best bet to make people go "argh" and bleed a little.  Axes and javs will hit harder if you only plan on getting a few tosses in before entering the fray, haha
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 08:46:09 am
Yeah unless you've got loomed gloves, don't fret.  Kudos for trying a hybrid build.  You're only kind of gimping yourself, but with a 21/15 build you'll do fine.  Instead of the huscarl shield as suggested use maybe a heavy round, or something 1 slot that you like the style of, only cuz its 1 slot, but you're probably already doing so.

War darts, axes, or javelins are probably your best bet with two stacks to utilize.  Darts have a high accuracy and ammo count and actually still do damage, so are probably your best bet to make people go "argh" and bleed a little.  Axes and javs will hit harder if you only plan on getting a few tosses in before entering the fray, haha

I am using the round shield  :)
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Uumdi on April 14, 2012, 08:47:54 am
Rad, good choice
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Phineas on April 14, 2012, 02:30:27 pm
As a noob myself that  went with a shield build when I first started playing I would recommend against it. You'll want to learn how to be at least decent at blocking because when your shield breaks you're just fodder at that point.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 07:15:45 pm
As a noob myself that  went with a shield build when I first started playing I would recommend against it. You'll want to learn how to be at least decent at blocking because when your shield breaks you're just fodder at that point.

I'll rely on my charm and good looks.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on April 14, 2012, 07:19:01 pm
Thrower build

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 120
Throwing: 120
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 07:20:40 pm
Thrower build

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 120
Throwing: 120

Thanks, I already have 4 ironflesh though and there is no way I'm respeccing again.I like that though
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Digglez on April 14, 2012, 08:42:22 pm
Thrower build

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 120
Throwing: 120

decent build, but not enough HP IMO
120 WPF in throwing is quite a bit extra for PT5, unless you plan on using plate armor or something
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Ronin on April 14, 2012, 10:14:45 pm
make shield 4 or 5 from a 6 and them to power throw and ironflesh. And it'll be fine I guess.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: callahan9119 on April 14, 2012, 11:03:36 pm
Damnit, I accidentally did 5 ironflesh when I was shooting for 4. I wish there was an "are you sure" message box when you assigned your points.
Title: Re: How much do you need to invest in throwing for it to be just ok?
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on April 14, 2012, 11:56:37 pm
decent build, but not enough HP IMO
120 WPF in throwing is quite a bit extra for PT5, unless you plan on using plate armor or something

Ofcourse you can ajust your wpf any way you like