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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: BootyBuster on April 09, 2012, 11:29:52 pm
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Also I'd like to see if it's a Admin is abusing his power in this game.
Cause if it's what I think it is, it's one admin, banning me because he didn't like my point of view.
that tied with 1 accidental tk maybe? As a reason to ban? Sounds like abusing power to me.
Taking away from my time of relaxation. I could be leveling and playing right now.
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How much game time do I lose over this? And whens the response comming?
I'd like to see proof and reasoning behide this ban.
Because if it's what I think, it's due to an accidental Tk of a Admin from rageball named Hospit something, who doesn't like me and is abusing his power to ban me. For who knows how long.
And as I wait I lose game time over this crap, which in no way will be returned.
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What was the reason you were banned for? if you have a complaint on a admin you can find there feedback in a diffrent forum page to talk to them directly and to find out why you were banned.
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What was the reason you were banned for? if you have a complaint on a admin you can find there feedback in a diffrent forum page to talk to them directly and to find out why you were banned.
He thinks Spaniard banned him. He told me this in pm
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Don't know why I'm banned.
Thats why I'm posting here. I'd like to see why and have it explained.
Because there is no message as to why you're banned, there's no email no nothing, just you join games then it kicks you.
But I think I know why I was I was banned, I wrote it above.
So far I've lost hours today of gametime.
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http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,70.0.html k well here is the admin feedback page I wasnt there myself so not sure what you did usualy there is a reason for it.
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I'd like to know exactly why I was banned. Without the ban reason involving any sort of like or dislike towards me.
Whether you argee with a topic of discussion or not is not a reason to ban a person for days or a week. I Still don't know because there's a lack of communication.
I think I was banned for an accidential teamkill of an Admin in rageball after we and another were disputing some topics of conversation. They both already disliked me for obvious "owning reasons" LoL, and now this coversation put it over the top since I didn't agree with them. About 5 minutes later, me and the Admin were fighting an enemy in which I accidentialy hit him while attempting to kill the foe.
Add up the factors to this dispute: He dislikes me, disagrees with me and now a accidental Teamkill. BAM! I guess in his mind that's a valid reason to ban me for days.
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The ban log says:
Player: BaRoNBooTyBuSteR
Admin: Spanish
Unban Date: 04.10.2012 12:18
Reason: teamkiller
If you'd like to contest your ban make your case here in full. Leaving out relevant details may not reflect well on your case. If, when the topic is resolved, you'd like to make a complaint about specific admins please take it to the admin feedback area of the forum.
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*removed by the cat*
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I had begun my claim here, but the information is above.
So the reason said Teamkilling? I was one accidental Teamkill, do you get banned for that?
So thats a 2 day ban it says, I already lost one day of gameplay
He was looking for a reason to ban me because he personal dislikes me. He is abusing the power given to him as an admin.
Otherwise why ban someone over one accidental teamkill? And by the time it gets resolved I would have already lost more game time. Unbanned on the 10th at 12.18 pm? How is this going to be rectified when this is over and I lost gametime due to bs?
Two days= A loss of xp gold and fun
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You have two bans on record besides the latest, both for teamkilling, and I recall you recently being extremely disruptive on.. community I think? And many players asking me to mute you as you were "trolling chat" for hours before I got on. I really doubt you were banned without breaking the rules. Accusing admins of bias instead of apologizing or calmly explaining doesn't help much, either.
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The last ban for teamkilling was a few months ago. And if you can actually go back and read you'll see they were fights between friendlys who wanted to fight me. Then got mad because they lost.
How about you talk about this actual ban for accidental teamkill. Since it was "One" teamkill not many. It was only one.
And once again if you do not like me because I killed you or made fun of you or your friends that's your problem not mine.
Everyone talks crap at one point or another some a lot more then others. Like you trolling me right now on a topic you're not involved in.
This Hospt actually does not like me and neither do you it seems, That's why I am banned right now. That's the only reason. Not for "1" teamkill that was a accident.
Last I checked you're supposed to base cases on actual evidence not past history. If you didn't know there are ALOT of crybabys who report for any sort of teamkill accident or not. The Ban abuse is ridiculous
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Baron you know why you were banned. And don't act innocent you were griefing and trolling in the rage ball server. We were having a conversation about things but you went too far as insulting and raging on another player for more than half a map after I had repeatedly told you to stop bashin on him. I then
Muted you and after that I saw you team wound another player and then intentionally team killed me quite blatantly. You even knocked me to the ground and continued to bash my head in. Then you left game before I could ban you for your actions. So don't act like I'm abusing my powers just because you think I don't like you. Since you made me go to the website to ban you I made a mistake with the ban length since ive never done it before. It was only meant to be a day ban or two. Especially since you Already have a ban history for teamkilling. And I apologize for the late response to your forum posts
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Oh and it wasn't the conversation we had that made me upset or the reason I muted you it was the insults and continual bashing of another player in chat that I had to mute you for, especially since I told you not to do it many times
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It was not only me trolling or whatever you're saying. It was all 3 of us having a conversation which you and your buddy did not like.
So if that's the case why isn't he banned also? lol
So that is not a reason, It's over personal dislike.
I didn't teamhit anyone except you when you were fighting someone, you got hit on accident. Since you say it was on purpose which it wasn't, prove it. And does one teamkill accident or not warrent a ban? I don't think so.
My so-called ban history stuff you're talking about is pathetic. I've been playing 8 months on here,out of that I have a ban history of 2 bans which all were bs, and you think that's a reason for a 3rd bs ban? If I was a pathetic little prick like some people, I'd go to the forums and cry and post pictures about EVERY single teamkill someone did to me. But I'm not. And thats what the 2 of my bans are for. Cowards who abuse the ban polling in game and on the forums. I have never tried to get someone banned over personally dislike, the most I do Is click M sometimes in game if its over and over.
So my ban needs to be lifted and I want you to be kicked off for 3 days
So me having 2 things on my "record" doesn't mean anything. It just shows a dislike towards me and pricks reporting. Which I could do back to them If i was a prick but i'm not
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Honestly rather than making a case for you to be unbanned, your making a case to keep yourself banned. This is coming from an objective 3rd party view here man, stop digging yourself into a hole just own up and put it past you.
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I was robbed of my gametime. I want it back.
It doesn't sound good because I'm bringing up things which are problems already does it? The banning system, poll abuse, Admin having bias among many other problems.
Because Mr.Spanish, before he was an admin did not like me. Now he's an admin, add those factors up for his reasons to easily ban me.
If 3 people are having a conversation and theres a dispute between the 3 thats fine it happens. That wasn't the reason for the ban that's just stuff he's adding in because banning me soley for 1 accidental teamkill doesn't make much sense. Cause the arguing went back and forth, me him and the cecil turd guy.
He also said he made a mistake on the ban time. But hasn't fixed it? lol
I've already lost time here and even if it was to get reversed and my ban lifted, so what? how does this make up for my loss time?
Pay me the gold I would have made, give me the xp. Or ban hims for 3 days. I think that's fair.
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Accidental? If it was accidental you could have used I chat to apologize and told me so, or you could of stayed instead of immediately leaving the server. You lied about your most recent tk saying it was months ago and when you reference the guy you insulted and bashed in game it's by calling him a turd. No baron, in my time as an admin I've rarely had to ban people, with you I think I'm up to 4 or 5 total. I don't like banning people because we should be able to play a game of rage ball without griefing and intentional team killing both of which you did. My opinion has nothing to do with the ban that you earned so go down vote on my admin the thread and make post about why you believe I shouldn't be an admin. You're ban was deserved and i stand by it, and as for the game time you've lost well maybe you should have spent that time reflecting on why you were banned instead of lying about the entire thing
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This entire issue can be solved with the logs. I'm not very familiar with the log system, or precisely when the disagreement happened, so Span or somebody will have to find them.
I was robbed of my gametime. I want it back.
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He also said he made a mistake on the ban time. But hasn't fixed it? lol
I've already lost time here and even if it was to get reversed and my ban lifted, so what? how does this make up for my loss time?
Pay me the gold I would have made, give me the xp. Or ban hims for 3 days. I think that's fair.
A few things to note before you dig yourself deeper:
- You were only 'robbed' if Span acted unjustly, something which has not yet been demonstrated (logs forthcoming)
- Span allegedly made a mistake with the ban time which seems to have been corrected. As of your last post you can play on the servers. Your comment here comes off as a lie to me and so does not reflect well on your case.
- accidental bans are a consequence of having human admins. If you're found to have been unjustly banned then all we can do is apologize. You do not deserve compensation for a foreseeable consequence of playing online games with other people
- what you think is fair is irrelevant to administrative standards. We have a code and we follow it. If Span is acting unjustly and is found out then he will be punished. You are not in a position to make demands, especially since you haven't justified your claims yet
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My last teamkill was months ago.
Before you were an admin you did not like me, don't try and deny it.
I didn't lie about anything, It was one teamkill that I was banned for, and it was you.
The logs will only show the teamkill of spanish, which cannot be proved that is was on purpose. Because it wasn't.
All the coversation before went back and forth between spanish Cecil and I. If you'd want to be strict with the rules we all could deserve a ban, which I already served. Because me and cecil were going back and forth with Spanish joining in, as an admin he let it go on and on. He didn't mind. I used insults at cecil and he continued to troll me by correcting my "game language" As in "U" "r" "y" etc. Just trying to annoy me. That's about it.
And I cannot go into games yet, my ban is not lifted or shortened
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I let it go on? All you had to do was stop replying and let it go he wasnt coming after you in chat. You kept it going and if you were truly being trolled you should of dropped and told me in I chat that he's abusing me and he would of been the one muted. But no your response was to insult him and ignore my warnings.
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You would not have done anything because of your personally dislike towards me.
I got banned for it. When it was you and him also contributing. You're the Admin there. So whats the exact reason for my ban because it wasn't any of the dialog. The ban reason said Teamkilling. Does 1 teamkill =ban? Accident or not?
And Diomedes I cannot go into games. The ban is still on
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Okay i was going to go over the whole log and post highlights but since this occurred for over an hour i'll just post the part after where the admin warned you and you did not stop.
20:43:24 - [ADMIN][Hospitaller_Spaniard] ANd you keep making me repeat myself
20:43:30 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] tell me fucki something that is an sunult
20:43:31 - [ADMIN][Hospitaller_Spaniard] Keep it civil!
20:43:35 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] this kids lame
20:43:39 - [Cedric_Scott] a* sunult
20:43:46 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] Like 6 times now all he does is correct spelling
20:43:48 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] pathetic
20:43:55 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] Your a tiny dicked little bundle of sticks
20:43:59 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] You have man tits
20:44:05 - Hospitaller_Spaniard muted player BaRoNBooTyBuSteR.
20:44:10 - [ADMIN][Hospitaller_Spaniard] I told you
20:44:12 - [Yellowgreen] Thanks :)
20:44:15 - [PLAYER2ADMIN][Ridicule] Thanks!
20:44:21 - [Cedric_Scott] thanks
20:45:22 - SalameElCazador reported BaRoNBooTyBuSteR for teamwounding. Penalty: [1/5]
20:46:19 - BaRoNBooTyBuSteR <img=ico_maul> Hospitaller_Spaniard
20:46:19 - BaRoNBooTyBuSteR team-killed Hospitaller_Spaniard
20:46:22 - <img=ico_headshot> BaRoNBooTyBuSteR
and just a small snip of the highlights of your speech
19:20:27 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] ur a cunt
19:23:47 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] eat my ass?
19:23:56 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] cunt
19:28:41 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] U suck cedric go eat someones ass
I'm not even going to go into the half hour long or so debate about how you think Rape jokes are funny and appropriate. I will however address this
19:55:00 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] I can and anyone can joke about anything
19:55:07 - [BaRoNBooTyBuSteR] called rights lol
You certainly can joke about anything you care to, but since this is a private server we reserve the right to prevent you from playing at any moment if your conduct becomes disruptive to the server.
MY FINDINGS:
Hate speech and intentional continual harassment of a single player for over an HOUR (in this case cedrick) violates the rules of the server and you were warned to keep it civil. You decidedly did not keep it "civil" and received a mute. Instead of acting like an adult you had a temper tantrum and TKed the admin who issued the mute and then left the server in a rage. Had this been me, you would of been banned for 3-7 days. I left the ban active until i checked the logs, and I'll let Spanish decide if i should remove it. As for Spanish's bias against you? That's entirely ridiculous, if he was biased he would not have let that behavior continue near as long as he did.
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I see only my highlighted speech.
I'd like to see the entire log, i already stated I called called him insults.
Me calling him a "bundle of sticks" isn't hate speech. I don't know him personally at all. It's the internet, I don't know if he's gay or not. The word gay, my old friend or homo has muchly turned into dumb or stupid.
But show me the whole log so we can see the whole conversation. Not just my insults okay?
I see no proof whatever for the teamkill being on purpose. That's just your opinion that I "had a temper tantrum and TKed the admin"
" Hate speech and intentional continual harassment of a single player for over an HOUR (in this case cedrick)" So him continuing to talk back and forth with me for the hour doesn't show his interest? contribution to the fight? I'm pretty sure it does. Your whole post is saying it's all me, he didnt have anything to do with it. what a joke
Pretty sure the harassment went back and forth. Go look at the entire log. I think a walking talking spell checker in a game is sad. That's what this kid did over and over. You only highlight my "naughty words" I used, omg I said bad words.
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Cedric could have stopped indeed, but as the admin asked, he kept it civil, you did not.
Im not posting the entire log, because its over an hour and a half.
Edit: wasted enough of my time checking these logs on my day off. Im going back IG. Spanish its up to you since you were there.
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Checked the logs. Good job not keeping it civil. I'd just ride out this ban and keep a low profile if I were you.
But good job on your posts though. I like the way you format them :D
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I was banned for "Teamkilling" Now it's turned into something else, so it doesn't matter.
Complete bullshit. I was banned since the 8th at 12.18 am Until the 10th at 12.18am for one teamkill that was an accident.
So pretty sure I won't be starting to play at 12.18 today. Who starts playing games at 12.18 in the morning? So that's another day gone
The whole dialog was used as a reason to jusify the ban. BUT that wasn't the initial reason for the ban. I call BS!!!!!
The format is called double spacing, it's for easier reading.
Thx for your compliment though even if it's your way of being a wiseass.
Also is this how Admins are suppose to talk? Check out Dexxtaa's post.
"Checked the logs. Good job not keeping it civil. I'd just ride out this ban and keep a low profile if I were you.
But good job on your posts though. I like the way you format them" From Dexxtaa
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Me calling him a "bundle of sticks" isn't hate speech. I don't know him personally at all. It's the internet, I don't know if he's gay or not. The word gay, my old friend or homo has muchly turned into dumb or stupid.
This isn't a question of semantics. It's clearly inappropriate language worthy of a warning. Spaniard warned you, and you disregarded the warning.
I see no proof whatever for the teamkill being on purpose. That's just your opinion that I "had a temper tantrum and TKed the admin"
This forum doesn't work on criminal law standards. On the balance of probabilities, between the word of a trusted admin and a dialogue which fully supports his interpretation of events, and the word of a player who's first move in this was to claim Spaniard is incompetent, it seems like a reasonable conclusion to think you deliberately teamwounded after already disregarding a warning. It's not just consistent with your in-game chat but coherent with your comments and attitude more generally.
" Hate speech and intentional continual harassment of a single player for over an HOUR (in this case cedrick)" So him continuing to talk back and forth with me for the hour doesn't show his interest? contribution to the fight? I'm pretty sure it does. Your whole post is saying it's all me, he didnt have anything to do with it. what a joke
'Interest' doesn't mean squat. The relevant facts to your ban are: (1) did you do something inappropriate? (yes) (2) did you disregard an admin's warning? (yes) (3) did you deliberately teamkill? (probably). Whether Cedrick deserves any penalties is an entirely different set of questions. If you'd like to allege that he does make a thread about it and actually argue your case. Piecemeal comments and allegations is part of why this thread has continued so far as it has.
Pretty sure the harassment went back and forth. Go look at the entire log. I think a walking talking spell checker in a game is sad. That's what this kid did over and over. You only highlight my "naughty words" I used, omg I said bad words.
Other players being irritating is no reason to deliberately make a hostile environment. You have no justification for your actions. Spaniard acted on what he saw and his belief was clearly reasonable. Whether or not this is just a case of misunderstanding cannot be proven. What is certain is that you acted wrongly here.
I suggest you take Dexxtaa's advice. I see no room for further informative discussion.
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All the reasons for my ban were gathered up after the fact.
It said Teamkill as the reason. So I don't really care, you basially said a "Admin" is 10x more trustworthy then a player. His or her word means more.
So the team kill is possible of course but no proof other then the Admins word vs mine.
It still does not warrent a ban of that length. I'll just play native for now and older games so I don't have to deal with pansy admins trying to protect the fanasty game rights of online players. gotta make the majority of pussies happy so we don't lose players..... Bitches
Peace
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Just a tip here booty but if you're looking for a unban try being a bit more polite and not so aggressive. It goes a long way.
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That would of helped him earlier maybe but it's just ridiculous that he won't realize the things he done. H can ride this ban out for he has done nothing to warrant an early unban. Locking the topic now