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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Karmazyn on March 13, 2011, 09:06:34 pm

Title: Useless shield
Post by: Karmazyn on March 13, 2011, 09:06:34 pm
http://img543.imageshack.us/f/shieldabsurd2.jpg/
http://img855.imageshack.us/i/shieldabsurd.jpg

That do not only bolts and arrows, it seems that melee weapon too.
You think that your shield protect you but no shield cheat you.
At point I have to say that I dont understand this item decision.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Christo on March 13, 2011, 09:09:31 pm
Just get a shitty lolhuscarl with the uber forcefield 180 technology. Problem solved.
Be unique, get a huscarl, use a sidesword, and get some throwing!  :lol:
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 13, 2011, 09:43:37 pm
This looks like a case where your shield was lowered for a fraction of a second (due to user error or information loss online) and the arrow was in the right place at the right time.

Or, you have a really low shield skill coupled with a shield that has poor hit detection.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Karmazyn on March 13, 2011, 09:52:42 pm
This looks like a case where your shield was lowered for a fraction of a second (due to user error or information loss online) and the arrow was in the right place at the right time.

Or, you have a really low shield skill coupled with a shield that has poor hit detection.

No my shield was penetrated like the pics show, shield was up, thats is the point of that thread, the shield model and data of the shield dont match.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Berserkadin on March 13, 2011, 10:37:41 pm
Well Xbow can penetrate shields, right?
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Seawied on March 14, 2011, 08:29:39 am
Well Xbow can penetrate shields, right?

ya, but the model is larger than the blockable area. They went a bit overboard with the shield nerf.

To the OP: I wouldn't recommend less than 4 shield skill.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: GaenaralHONK on March 14, 2011, 10:52:42 am
Well Xbow can penetrate shields, right?

yes. this was obviously the case here - get a better shield and/or more shield skill
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Spawny on March 14, 2011, 12:27:21 pm
This looks like a case where your shield was lowered for a fraction of a second (due to user error or information loss online) and the arrow was in the right place at the right time.

Shields always block projectiles, wether RMB is held or not. The only time they do not, is when you have it on your back, but it will then reduce damage taken by a % (I thought 50%, not sure).
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: La Makina on March 21, 2011, 05:58:56 pm
The other day I was aiming with a xbow at a guy behind his round shield. His legs and body were covered by the wall and the shield clearly up protecting the head. I could not see anything of him, just the shield. I tried to shoot the shield just for fun, to tease him. Boom. Headshot.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 21, 2011, 06:05:45 pm
xBows have a chance to penetrate shields. II do not knnow if this is deliberate or a glitch that triggers only with them, but even in native this happens.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: cmp on March 21, 2011, 07:13:21 pm
xBows have a chance to penetrate shields. II do not knnow if this is deliberate or a glitch that triggers only with them, but even in native this happens.

Deliberate.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Dravic on March 21, 2011, 10:08:30 pm
Yeah, when i was trying to make a mod for Warband, in item editor i saw strange thing: bolts have "checked" a "pass through shields" bonus! Is that the whole thing?

Could we add it to, for example, bodkin arrows? Would make using them a bit more interesting and paying off, especially as high str archer - because im almost sure this bonus depends on power of shot.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 21, 2011, 10:35:25 pm
Yeah, when i was trying to make a mod for Warband, in item editor i saw strange thing: bolts have "checked" a "pass through shields" bonus! Is that the whole thing?

Could we add it to, for example, bodkin arrows? Would make using them a bit more interesting and paying off, especially as high str archer - because im almost sure this bonus depends on power of shot.


I would rather not take away the main counter against us Archers. I say let the shielders have to worry against only xbowmen. I like being blocked by a player class as it makes the game more interesting to have a specific weakness.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: The_Newer_Wind on March 22, 2011, 03:28:35 am
Guys, if you want arrows to pierce shields, you just want a nerf. Shields are the only things protecting you from a barrage of arrows, leave them be.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Kophka on March 22, 2011, 07:31:00 am
Just get a shitty lolhuscarl with the uber forcefield 180 technology. Problem solved.
Be unique, get a huscarl, use a sidesword, and get some throwing!  :lol:

Actually, with shield skill 5, I get shot both above and below a heavy round shield quite often, as well in the right (weapon) side of my body. There is no force field in crpg, shield skill simply adds to resistance and hp of shields.
Title: Re: Useless shield
Post by: Michael on March 22, 2011, 11:14:18 pm
Christo did you ever use a shield? After patch, too?

I remember you running around spamming a poleaxe breaking the elite cavalry shield in 1 hit.

These days its even possible for a mediocre 2h spammer to simply double left klick and hit right through the shield, when he only knows where he has to stand.

I am not talking about good ping noob spam, I am saying its possible to "crush" through a steel shield with a sword/ katana swing.

Also, it happens all the time that someone gets a headshot right through the steel shield.

Its just they messed it up when they wanted to reduce the shield protection.

I guess you have to have shield skill 10 to get the protection you actually see.........